News New Polynesian Resort DVC villas building to open 2024

pdude81

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I am questioning the timing of the announcement , not the build or first sale. I would bet the sales team hated this timing.
They have been announcing resorts well before construction lately. Riviera, Reflections, VGF conversion, Disneyland Tower. Not sure why, but it's how they've been operating as of late. Riviera may have been part of a need to announce the Skyliner at D23 and what the mystery turn station was for, so that could have been why they started doing this initially.
 

JaxFLBear

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They have been announcing resorts well before construction lately. Riviera, Reflections, VGF conversion, Disneyland Tower. Not sure why, but it's how they've been operating as of late. Riviera may have been part of a need to announce the Skyliner at D23 and what the mystery turn station was for, so that could have been why they started doing this initially.
They continued to deny the existence of BLT well into construction and even after they applied for it's timeshare license in FL. Since then, they've been pretty up front with proposed new resorts.
 

correcaminos

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That depends on what they are looking to do. There may be people clamoring for direct PVB points like there were for direct VGF points before. If so, then they can give those people something to look forward to rather than have to deal with the resale process. Sales of the new VGF have been brisk, and if they expect them to continue at that rate then they'll need something else "current" along with Riviera and DLT in a couple years.
Agreed!

I am questioning the timing of the announcement , not the build or first sale. I would bet the sales team hated this timing.
I guess I don't understand this. This is pretty normal for a new build since BLT.
 

LuvtheGoof

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For Wedding Pavilion purposes, I just did some comparisons using the specs and the map. The new building will be about as close as the Villas at Grand Floridian - so pretty close. The main GF building (excluding the little stair step offshoot) is 7.5 stories with the middle being closer to 8.5 (plus the little turret on top). From the renderings, the Poly building will be approximately 7 - 10 stories tall (based on the first floor looking like 1.5 stories and the various differences on the upper floors). So, this will certainly have an impact on the Wedding Pavilion area. The Wedding Pavilion will basically become the transition between GF and Poly, instead of the current extension of GF. The transition area between the two will be basically removed entirely.

NOTE: I'm talking actual stories. So, I'm approximating things like the higher pitch roofline at GF, the higher first floors, etc. in "stories". I realize the actual floors of the hotel will be lower than that.
The new Poly building won't really affect the wedding pavilion at all. The only clear window looks towards the castle, and not to either the GF or Poly. Yes, guests will see the building when walking up to the pavilion, but nothing after they're inside. I don't see why people think it will be an issue.
 

UNCgolf

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The new Poly building won't really affect the wedding pavilion at all. The only clear window looks towards the castle, and not to either the GF or Poly. Yes, guests will see the building when walking up to the pavilion, but nothing after they're inside. I don't see why people think it will be an issue.

I don't know how you think it won't be an issue.

No one suggested there would be a problem with the view while inside the pavilion. The problem is all the nearby activity. The concept art shows outdoor seating etc. basically along the entire front of the new building, which means there will likely be a decent number of people outside very close to the pavilion. Most people want some kind of seclusion for their wedding as opposed to being surrounded by a bunch of other things.
 

LuvtheGoof

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Have ever had 3 resort's active for sale and 2 announced as coming? Really muddies the waters for sales people. You don't want that much choice and dithering.
It doesn't really muddy it that much, as people like what they like. The GF people aren't going to buy at Poly or Riviera. The Poly people aren't going to buy at GF. It's person specific. For us, we would buy only at the new Poly, and not at any of the others.
 

UNCgolf

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It doesn't really muddy it that much, as people like what they like. The GF people aren't going to buy at Poly or Riviera. The Poly people aren't going to buy at GF. It's person specific. For us, we would buy only at the new Poly, and not at any of the others.

That's only helpful if the sales were all exclusive to current DVC members. They're certainly hoping to sell to a bunch of new members, and it's absolutely an issue there in terms of actually closing a sale.
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
That's only helpful if the sales were all exclusive to current DVC members. They're certainly hoping to sell to a bunch of new members, and it's absolutely an issue there.
Again I'll have to disagree. They are targeting the people that would normally pay cash for their rooms at GF or Poly, and those people are very specific about what they want. People that stay at the Poly every trip simply won't be interested in buying DVC at GF. Same goes for those that always stay at GF. There is no reason why they would want to buy DVC at the Poly. That is really the target at this time. Yes, there are people that float around and stay at different resorts, but I'm willing to bet that a majority of them have a favorite, and that's where they would buy - if they're going to buy into DVC at all.
 

LuvtheGoof

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I don't know how you think it won't be an issue.

No one suggested there would be a problem with the view while inside the pavilion. The problem is all the nearby activity. The concept art shows outdoor seating etc. basically along the entire front of the new building, which means there will likely be a decent number of people outside very close to the pavilion. Most people want some kind of seclusion for their wedding as opposed to being surrounded by a bunch of other things.
Disagree. The concept art shows seating outside near the proposed pool which is on the other side of the resort away from the wedding pavilion. I don't see a lot of people hanging out on that side near the parking lot.

Guess we'll have to see what happens when it's all said and done.
 

correcaminos

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Again I'll have to disagree. They are targeting the people that would normally pay cash for their rooms at GF or Poly, and those people are very specific about what they want. People that stay at the Poly every trip simply won't be interested in buying DVC at GF. Same goes for those that always stay at GF. There is no reason why they would want to buy DVC at the Poly. That is really the target at this time. Yes, there are people that float around and stay at different resorts, but I'm willing to bet that a majority of them have a favorite, and that's where they would buy - if they're going to buy into DVC at all.
This! I have no plans to buy VGF. I have no plans to buy RR. I just did a CCV resale instead of buying direct. I will either sell my PVB and buy direct for this one or add on a few more points. VGF won't ever be on my radar
 

Naplesgolfer

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It doesn't really muddy it that much, as people like what they like. The GF people aren't going to buy at Poly or Riviera. The Poly people aren't going to buy at GF. It's person specific. For us, we would buy only at the new Poly, and not at any of the others.
Many of the new sales are to people who have little of the knowledge you have to make those decisions. If I am in sales and I have a family in front of me who is having a great time and wanting to buy a piece of the magic , I want them to have one choice plus maybe a drop down product like OKW 2057 to sell them. Too many choices is a recipe for " we are going to think about it when we get home" and many lost sales. Sales 101.

but opinions differ....
 
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Epcot82Guy

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I understand your point, but having walked that area a lot and know people who got married there - the seclusion is a HUGE draw for some. Right now, it feels like the very far southern edge of the GF. Poly isn't in the picture at all. The VGF encroached on it, and attendees noticed that. But, it's in a similar style, so it didn't feel as intrusive. Plus, you had the long, open walkway on the other side. So, it still felt secluded. This will make it stranded in the middle. And, you will likely have more crossover from GF to Poly and vice versa. (That's likely not a ton of people, but right now it's a very small number.)

How big an issue this will be is in the eye of the beholder. But, it will definitely impact arrival, outdoor reception and send off in the main walkway, etc. as well as potential traffic by the Pavilion itself by guests.
 

LuvtheGoof

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Many of the new sales are to people who have little of the knowledge you have to make those decisions. If I am in sales and I have a family in front of me who is have a great time and wanting to buy a piece of the magic to have one choice plus maybe a drop down product like OKW 2057 to sell them. Too many choices is a recipe for " we are going to think about it when we get home" and many lost sales. Sales 101.

but opinions differ....
Not sure if you know, but you can buy into DVC for any property that you want. Just because they are actively selling a few resorts, doesn't mean that you can't buy from BWV or BCV or even BLT if you want. They will sell you points at any resort you want.

We went to a presentation many moons ago (members for 15 years now!), and took the information home with us to decide. We bought 3 months later and have added on twice already, with more add-ons to come. But we will never buy at RR or GF or Aulani or CC. Poly or BWV for us.

And to add - if anyone drops $30,000 or more without doing a ton of research on exactly what they are getting into, then I feel sorry for them.
 

LuvtheGoof

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I understand your point, but having walked that area a lot and know people who got married there - the seclusion is a HUGE draw for some. Right now, it feels like the very far southern edge of the GF. Poly isn't in the picture at all. The VGF encroached on it, and attendees noticed that. But, it's in a similar style, so it didn't feel as intrusive. Plus, you had the long, open walkway on the other side. So, it still felt secluded. This will make it stranded in the middle. And, you will likely have more crossover from GF to Poly and vice versa. (That's likely not a ton of people, but right now it's a very small number.)

How big an issue this will be is in the eye of the beholder. But, it will definitely impact arrival, outdoor reception and send off in the main walkway, etc. as well as potential traffic by the Pavilion itself by guests.
I wonder how many weddings they lost during the construction of the VGF? Rhetorical, of course. And they might lose some during the construction of the new Poly building as well. Yes, it may impact how some people feel while going in and out of the building, but that isn't the reason that they are there. I never thought it was about the seclusion that people wanted to get married there, but the beautiful inside and the view of the castle in the backdrop as you're getting married. JMHO.
 

correcaminos

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Not sure if you know, but you can buy into DVC for any property that you want. Just because they are actively selling a few resorts, doesn't mean that you can't buy from BWV or BCV or even BLT if you want. They will sell you points at any resort you want.

We went to a presentation many moons ago (members for 15 years now!), and took the information home with us to decide. We bought 3 months later and have added on twice already, with more add-ons to come. But we will never buy at RR or GF or Aulani or CC. Poly or BWV for us.

And to add - if anyone drops $30,000 or more without doing a ton of research on exactly what they are getting into, then I feel sorry for them.
Exactly what I was going to say. I have bought direct and it was not always what they were selling new. If I do more Polynesian and it is all PVB I will do direct because I will want a specific number of points and my current UY out of ease. I won't care that Aulani and likely RR are still up for grabs or I would have bought them now.
 

Naplesgolfer

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Not sure if you know, but you can buy into DVC for any property that you want. Just because they are actively selling a few resorts, doesn't mean that you can't buy from BWV or BCV or even BLT if you want. They will sell you points at any resort you want.

We went to a presentation many moons ago (members for 15 years now!), and took the information home with us to decide. We bought 3 months later and have added on twice already, with more add-ons to come. But we will never buy at RR or GF or Aulani or CC. Poly or BWV for us.

And to add - if anyone drops $30,000 or more without doing a ton of research on exactly what they are getting into, then I feel sorry for them.
Yes understand all the in's and out's. I have been in DVC for 28 years. Many timeshare sales are done with far less info than you or I would be comfortable having. DVC heavily tries to sell the shining new thing they make the most money on. They don't talk about anything else unless they have to. I stand by my earlier opinions.
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
Exactly what I was going to say. I have bought direct and it was not always what they were selling new. If I do more Polynesian and it is all PVB I will do direct because I will want a specific number of points and my current UY out of ease. I won't care that Aulani and likely RR are still up for grabs or I would have bought them now.
^^^This. We have all of our points direct, and will continue to do so for any future buys.
 

correcaminos

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^^^This. We have all of our points direct, and will continue to do so for any future buys.
Mine are a mix obviously and done that way for a reason each time. I got CCV for CCV and have more than enough either grandfathered in or direct points so blue cards don't matter. When you talk to people about buying it's always about where one wants to stay. Not what's shiny. I'm sure they get some with shiny but it's normal to have 2 or 3 choices at once. I don't expect DLT to be same group of buyers as VGF though. So even if there are 4 to pick from it will still be fine.
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
Mine are a mix obviously and done that way for a reason each time. I got CCV for CCV and have more than enough either grandfathered in or direct points so blue cards don't matter. When you talk to people about buying it's always about where one wants to stay. Not what's shiny. I'm sure they get some with shiny but it's normal to have 2 or 3 choices at once. I don't expect DLT to be same group of buyers as VGF though. So even if there are 4 to pick from it will still be fine.
I had forgotten about DLT, but I agree that it will appeal to a different audience than anything at WDW.
 

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