roj2323
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Well I can't help it if you are a boring person. Sorry
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Well I can't help it if you are a boring person. Sorry
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Here's some examples of the monorail wraps. The Zootopia one is pretty subtle but the Avengers was a bit much. I think it would be OK if they used the idea of the Zootopia and Monsters wraps and to made it look like a character is looking out one of the windows, but it should be a permanent wrap, not swapped out for each new movie that comes out.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
I don't think it has anything to do with theming or storytelling, in this case they are just transportation. For kids it would probably add a little something. Trying to guess which character's gondola you might get. We always play the game of trying to guess which color monorail will arrive when we use it. It's a little fun distraction while you wait.
lazyboy97o
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Just tossing stuff around doesn't create interest.
It just reinforces the idea that Disney operates a collection of amusement parks that are only differentiated by a cacophony of branding.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Nah, you're overthinking it, it's just having a little fun. These gondolas don't even enter the theme parks. They are basically just transportation. Having a different character on each gondola is like having each section of the parking lot differentiated by character. It's not supposed to mean anything it's just a little fun distraction before you enter the park. It's less boring than just having the lots numbered 1 through 10.
I can foresee the devotees keeping a diary list of each and every gondola they've been on, and actively striving to hit them all (or as many different gondolas as possible) over the course of an AP...
And then all the drama over a particular gondola being decommissioned twenty years from now.
The gondola with the Minnie Mouse polka dots was our favorite. My daughter was so happy when we got that one. Now, heartless [insert CEO of the time] is destroying everything that was good about Disney. I don't know if I can ever go again since I'm crying myself to sleep every night.
Kman101
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I wouldn't be opposed to them skinning the monorails to look a bit more sleek and modern if they aren't going to give us new ones. I love them to death, and the insides have been worked on, but it's really time. They look as dated as the Ticket and Transportation Center (why haven't they overhauled the T&TC to look more like Magic Kingdom monorail station). I'm not saying I want advertisments on them though.
Anyway, I was standing on the bridge near France before the International Gateway in Epcot and trying to picture the gondola entering when I was there this week. I'm really looking forward to a new mode of transportation.
EDIT: This is for Hong Kong Disneyland but wouldn't that be great?
Anyway, I was standing on the bridge near France before the International Gateway in Epcot and trying to picture the gondola entering when I was there this week. I'm really looking forward to a new mode of transportation.
EDIT: This is for Hong Kong Disneyland but wouldn't that be great?
nickys
Premium Member
Not to mention this:
I've been to Disneyworld many times before with my little prince and princesses. Well this time the heartless CM told my princess she couldn't just wait for the Tinkerbell gondola, even though she was heartbroken and crying her eyes out. I pointed out to the CM that I could be the CEO for all she knew, but she still didn't do anything to stop my princess crying. Obviously CMs just don't care if they make little girls cry.
Katiebug101
Capsin4
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Tell that to the people who miss the variety of napkins that were eliminated.
Kman101
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Tokyo even has restaurant specific trays ...
Marc Davis Fan
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IMHO, it's unfortunate that the gondolas are not custom designs, or at least modifications of existing designs, such as having Mickey-shaped windows (which do exist, on TDR's buses and HKDL's train, and they look great).
The more Disney adds generic things from the outside world into WDW, the less WDW feels like "another world." Disney has to remember that historically, the whole property - not just the parks - played an essential role in creating that experience. This might chip away from that just a little bit more.
The more Disney adds generic things from the outside world into WDW, the less WDW feels like "another world." Disney has to remember that historically, the whole property - not just the parks - played an essential role in creating that experience. This might chip away from that just a little bit more.
Figment2005
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Why add "Disneyfied" aspects to the new transportation when none of the original transportation had any of those aspects? The property was supposed to be a modern city with a theme park for entertainment and resorts so guests had a place to stay. As long as they have a clean look then they will blend in just fine with the rest of the property, and I personally feel the less Mickey introduced outside the parks the better.
Marc Davis Fan
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Sorry for being unclear. I was't advocating Disney-fication per-say, but rather any (well done) kind of customization. (Indeed, I would much prefer something that is not character-related.)
The monorail trains are a great example: They were custom-designed by Disney. If Disney had purchased an existing monorail train design that was already in use in Las Vegas, etc., it wouldn't have been nearly so special.
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Is this really any worse than having buses running around all over property or even (gasp) unthemed boats ferrying guests around all over the place?
I don't feel too much like I'm in another world when I see thousands of normal cars driving about too.
lazyboy97o
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I would. I don't like napkins that remind one that the story is fake, they are an anti-detail. A true detail would be different napkins chosen based on each location's story.
You don't create an experience by just doing a bunch of generic "Disney" stuff with everything.
Figment2005
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If I remember correctly, not to contradict you, but I believe the only custom part of the monorail is the nose cone. The body's are off the shelf models from Bombardier.
No Name
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The monorails don't really have any Disney theming built in, such as Mickey-shaped windows. Yet they've become their own kind of thing, with each having a unique color stripe, nice views, “¡Por favor manténgase alejado de las puertas!” Maybe it's nostalgia and memories that seperates WDW monorails from others, but whatever the reason, I don't feel like the monorials are generic.
On the other hand, there are the buses. They are just buses, they have no special place in my heart or in the hearts of many others, I'm sure. Like the monorials, they don't have any built-in Disney theming. But unlike the monorails, they don't feel unique without it. At least to me. Maybe you are a bus aficionado. If you are, tell me, is the spelling buses or busses?
I worry that the gondolas, too, will struggle to stand clear of being generic. Unlike monorails, they constantly pass by, and each one won't have a unique color pattern, I'm sure. So there's little anticiaption guessing when or which one will come.
I wonder if, 20 years from now, we'll see the gondolas more like we do the monorails, or more like we do the buses.
*edited to add in bus comparison
On the other hand, there are the buses. They are just buses, they have no special place in my heart or in the hearts of many others, I'm sure. Like the monorials, they don't have any built-in Disney theming. But unlike the monorails, they don't feel unique without it. At least to me. Maybe you are a bus aficionado. If you are, tell me, is the spelling buses or busses?
I worry that the gondolas, too, will struggle to stand clear of being generic. Unlike monorails, they constantly pass by, and each one won't have a unique color pattern, I'm sure. So there's little anticiaption guessing when or which one will come.
I wonder if, 20 years from now, we'll see the gondolas more like we do the monorails, or more like we do the buses.
*edited to add in bus comparison
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Figment2005
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That's a good question. I think they may have the same effect that the monorails have with the guests. Yes, there are other monorail systems, and other gondola systems in the world, but how many of the guests actually get to ride in one on a daily basis? This alone should make them unique, just like the monorail did when it opened.
No Name
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Yes, good point, that is true.
I ride a gondola at a ski resort every winter, and ride ski lifts all the time, so I'm sure that's part of the problem. They are a day-trip thing for me.
Whereas I hardly ride monorails anywhere but WDW and the airport. They are a vacation thing for me.