a 15min stop would make me not want to ride again.
Have there been changes in the bus routes yet?
They are mainly not equipment issues but human. In some cases it’s guest not exiting quickly enough and some CMs hitting the stop instead of the slow button. The CMs can opt to slow or stop the line in the case of some loading or exiting issues. We stopped right beside the console and I could hear the supervisor talking to the operator and explaining how they should have pushed slow instead of stop. That’s apparently happening a lot while staff figure out the system. It should get better as time goes along.
I get that for 1-3min stops.. but 5-15min stops?
Perhaps they're hitting an Emergency Stop button instead of station slow or stop. Oftentimes with major machinery it's a longer, more involved process to restart from an emergency stop that sometimes requires specific personnel to be in place to clear it.
A WDW ride example: Over at Soarin' there are generally two ways to stop the ride mid-flight. The preferred method is to press the "return to home" button (or whatever it's called). This stops the show and immediately brings the carriages back to the floor. This would be used in 99.9% of the times they'd have to stop the ride, since most issues would be with the guests who are up in the air.
However, the button on the panel that's actually labeled "Emergency Stop" does what the emergency stop button does on all heavy, industrial machinery. It immediately stops all motion and locks all moving parts in place, preventing any further movement. The only way to clear such an e-stop requires Maintenance staff. The only time this button should be used at Soarin would be if there were imminent danger were the carriages to return to the floor. (An example from a few years ago was the parent and child who somehow got out of their seats after the loading CMs had cleared the carriages for departure and had left the floor. The carriages rose, and suddenly the CM at the console had two guests standing around on the floor)
But if the CM panicked and hit the wrong button, you suddenly have guests on carriages locked in the air.
If the Skyliner is set up with a similar e-stop setup (@Lift Blog would probably be able to say), then a panicked CM hitting the wrong stop button could make for an extended stoppage.
-Rob
Well, read my post more carefully. I said many are due to human factors I did not say all. But it’s clear that human factors are causing problems and that will definitely improve. And things happening early in an implementation after the general public first gets to use a service are to be expected. After 30 year in the hospitality field you know the general public will do things and cause problems you never would ever have anticipated. It would be a major surprise if things didn’t go wrong. Everything will improve over time but really no system will ever run perfectly 100% of the time.I get that for 1-3min stops.. but 5-15min stops?
It's 8 zones. There are 4 in Riviera by itself, two in each direction, unload and load.I’m sure they have ways of communicating with each other, but I can see how waiting for 6 different load and unload zones to clear and then communicating with those different zones can take time.
I think it's actually 12. 4 at Riviera, 4 at Trinidad and 4 at International Gateway. That might be a record for a single lift worldwide.It's 8 zones. There are 4 in Riviera by itself, two in each direction, unload and load.
Oh sure, that makes sense. Loading and unloading for either direction. Didn’t even think of that!It's 8 zones. There are 4 in Riviera by itself, two in each direction, unload and load.
I think it's actually 12.
I forgot the extra loop, with it’s unload and load too. Just keeps getting worse for a restart.
Any idea how many buttons need to be pressed to restart? Is it conceivably 1 for each area? That could mean coordinating 12 people to tag it safe to start. Lots of room for extra delay.
The DHS line was stopped when I rolled into the WAV boarding area at CBR. The cm at the station was listening to his radio, then I saw him hold in the green button on the console for a number of seconds until the line started.Probably why we see the cms apcarrying phones phones/radios (Nextel style p2t?)... needing to coordinate with consoles at each zone before restarts. And probably why the line couldn’t run when the reedy creek radio network was down. No other comms directly to the platform crews
I think it's actually 12. 4 at Riviera, 4 at Trinidad and 4 at International Gateway. That might be a record for a single lift worldwide.
The glass on the cabins is not glass; it's probably some sort of polycarbonate. I could be mistaken, but it seems to me that it's not as clear as it was on Sunday. It may be difficult to thoroughly clean off finger grease.
Like buying a brand new car , it looks and smells brand new. Then later reality sets in..The cabins I rode in on Monday were covered in fingerprints. It was kind of a bummer that they were already looking kind of grimy by day 2.
Double wide or double length? Also thinking of my question can you even have a double wide in the parks with the new width rules?Interesting, when I boarded at CBR to ride to Epcot Monday evening, the CM let a family on with a double stroller unfolded. Perhaps it is size dependent.
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