New Early morning Studios upcharge event

ThemeParkJunkee

Well-Known Member
Guests who want to max out their time on TSMM may enjoy this early time in the park but it isn't for me at all. I skipped the attraction last trip because it wasn't worth wasting a tier 1 FP+. I don't do M&Gs, won't ever set foot in the Commissary again :hungover:, and find wait time at Star Tours to be manageable most days for multiple rides. Besides, what would I do for the rest of my time in the park for my $100 if I did half of the attractions before it opened? YMMV. I agree this would be popular for Epcot but they have to work the bugs out of FEA first. I expect this to roll out to Epcot next.
 

Bocabear

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That is exactly the problem...people keep buying the crap they are offering...if they announced this and it was received with a cricket chirp and no takers, they would start to realize they cant create an upcharge event when they have nothing to sell. So basically you get in an ahour and a half early, and in that timeframe you have to eat and can maybe get on how many rides? it is ludicrous and actually starts to downgrade the Disney brand....which has been happening for a while.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
Two words: Free dining
I have stated this numerous times in other threads. Everything from removing prime rib (and replacing it with roast beef), same all-day menu (Rose and Crown, Le Cellier, etc), to the little things like molded butter pats.
Free dining has nothing to do with that. The dining plan in general and, more importantly its popularity, does.

Guest feedback also has to be entered into the equation as well. Seems like nearly every non signature restaurant on property that tries to go a little exotic or left of center always end up having to go back the typical fare after a year or less.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
To me, this shouldn't bother people. The attractions open as normal with park open and you'd assume that's less people in line during park hours. I'm not really against preopen stuff. I'm against things that take away stuff during operating hours.
To be fair, I arrived at MK in May at 8:50 (9 am open) on a day with one of these events and Mine Train had a 70-min wait--longer than any other mornings at 9. It's easy enough for me to just avoid those mornings, but it did impact us. Maybe it was just a bad morning though--didn't care to test the hypothesis again haha
 

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
Explain to me how removing Prime Rib and molded butter isnt
So you have exact sales figures that show people were actually buying the prime rib in enough quantity to make it worthwhile? If an item isn't selling well, then it will be removed. Of course, y'all can't even conceive that could possibly be the reason.

Molded butter? Really? That's what you consider wal-marting???? I would have gone with the napkins for that one. I agree that they need to bring back the park specific ones. That, I consider wal-marting. So see, I'm not all pixie dust colored glasses here. There are things I don't like that they have done either. ;)
 

asianway

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Original Poster
So you have exact sales figures that show people were actually buying the prime rib in enough quantity to make it worthwhile? If an item isn't selling well, then it will be removed. Of course, y'all can't even conceive that could possibly be the reason.

Molded butter? Really? That's what you consider wal-marting???? I would have gone with the napkins for that one. I agree that they need to bring back the park specific ones. That, I consider wal-marting. So see, I'm not all pixie dust colored glasses here. There are things I don't like that they have done either. ;)
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LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
Disney loves YOU - remember that
Hmm. Nice response. Anyway, back to the original topic of the early morning at the studios. Like most here, I don't find it to be any value for us. It's not something we would ever consider buying, but I certainly understand that lots of people might. Just shows how everyone is different when it comes to how they tour the parks.
 

raven

Well-Known Member
When attendance at these events drops to a point where they are no longer profitable. Given that they are extending the original days, it would appear that more than enough people are willing to pay and it will continue for the foreseeable future.
Being that they pay their employees extremely low I'd say the numbers would have to also get extremely low. :(
 

glvsav37

Well-Known Member
I wonder what effect this will have on Jedi sign ups? Will people use this in part as an 'early in' to avoid needing to wait with the rest of the rope drop people outside? Interested in seeing if they let the early entry people line up over there (esp given that the 1 GD day we had planned to be at HS so my son could do JT is now on a early entry day....grrrrrr).
 

DznyGrlSD

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
Free dining has nothing to do with that. The dining plan in general and, more importantly its popularity, does.

Yes it does. The demand of guests and the giving-into by Disney of free dining since 9/11 has contributed to the decline in value & quality of the DDP. We have done the "dining plan" since the mid-80s when it truly was a great value & experience. It's been cheapened and the price has been over-inflated and getting worse for the last 10 years. The cost of food in general at the parks is outrageous as well.

Edit: yes, I understand Disney is a business and being a business is making a profit...
 

networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
Explain to me how removing Prime Rib and molded butter isnt

There are two sides to the Walmart equation:
1. The business of supplying commodity items at lower prices as they are purchased from the supplier in bulk.
2. The attraction of value seeking customers due to price.

You might not like the customers so you can pay more at other venues to avoid them.

You're not grasping that its not cost effective to supply some menu items even though you may have a preference for them. If the uptake (and reimbursement rate for dining plans) is lower than your costs on a menu item then its not business smart to keep them on the menu. What the restaurants agree to when they sign on for the plan is to provide meals at a negotiated per person rate. If you want to rail at something do so at the Dining plans, thats where the prices and menu choices meet.
 

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