NobodyElse
Well-Known Member
Well, since no news is still no news, here's some more off-topic blathering.
I was recently fortunate enough to visit Norway. Traveling near Stavanger, I came across this impressively functional structure:
(Here's an overview.)
It's a cool pedestrian / cycling ring used to separate them from ground-level vehicular traffic. And for comparison, here's another, perhaps more elegant suspension version from the Netherlands:
So, why am I posting these? Because I think some sort of variation on this would be a great enhancement for the Harbor / Katella intersection. (Side-note: I won't get into a roundabout discussion in this post.) While there has been previous discussion about the potential benefits of pedestrian overpasses (with Las Vegas strip intersections used as examples) I would much rather see something like this. Unfortunately, one of the nice aspects of these designs (the gently sloping access ramps that alleviate the need for elevators, etc.) would never fly in Anaheim. CVS, Walgreens, and 7-Eleven would likely take a cue from "Ole Red" and his coalition and scream bloody murder due to the perceived "stripping of access". Also, with the way the current structures have been built up close to the street, fitting ramps would be difficult. Thus, elevators, and stairs / escalators would probably be used at each intersection. But, the ring configuration would still get around the necessity of going up and down each time a pedestrian needed to cross a street.
Or, is it just time to try one of these:
I was recently fortunate enough to visit Norway. Traveling near Stavanger, I came across this impressively functional structure:
(Here's an overview.)
It's a cool pedestrian / cycling ring used to separate them from ground-level vehicular traffic. And for comparison, here's another, perhaps more elegant suspension version from the Netherlands:
So, why am I posting these? Because I think some sort of variation on this would be a great enhancement for the Harbor / Katella intersection. (Side-note: I won't get into a roundabout discussion in this post.) While there has been previous discussion about the potential benefits of pedestrian overpasses (with Las Vegas strip intersections used as examples) I would much rather see something like this. Unfortunately, one of the nice aspects of these designs (the gently sloping access ramps that alleviate the need for elevators, etc.) would never fly in Anaheim. CVS, Walgreens, and 7-Eleven would likely take a cue from "Ole Red" and his coalition and scream bloody murder due to the perceived "stripping of access". Also, with the way the current structures have been built up close to the street, fitting ramps would be difficult. Thus, elevators, and stairs / escalators would probably be used at each intersection. But, the ring configuration would still get around the necessity of going up and down each time a pedestrian needed to cross a street.
Or, is it just time to try one of these:
