Chi84
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News New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024
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Club Cooloholic
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I myself haven't really changed my opinion on this either despite some 600 pages. All I can say is it appears it's hard to accommodate what everyone(people who feel they need DAS and those that doesn't )thinks would or should be "fair".
Even in context of Disney trips which my family and I have done enough times we don't really need to do EVERYTHING when we go and probably approach parks a little more leisurely than others , but what I think is fair is going to be vastly different than another guest who might only be able to go once every 10 years. And only has a limited amount of time to do it.
Angel Ariel
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Exactly.
Angel Ariel
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The 10 min block now essentially means you can't book another ride while on another - so that's moot.
As for eating - perhaps consider that your situation is not everyone's situation. it takes our family twice as long if not longer to go through a meal than it would take a typical family. So that family that doesn't have DAS is already in line for an attraction before we are done eating. *Please note - I am NOT saying we are "owed" anything for this difference. Let me be clear, we are not owed anything. I am simply saying DAS does not necessarily result in an advantage over typical guests.
Angel Ariel
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Amen.
Splash4eva
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There are plenty of rides & attractions that are more than 10 minutes so its NOT moot… not to mention the clock starts once you tap in to the last LL entry point. So your comment is incorrect.
In regards to eating. Character meals can take an hour or more to complete depending on where you are dining. So while the regular guest is enjoying their mean a DAS guest is doing just the same & when dinner/breakfast is over has a ride ready to walk on so.
Angel Ariel
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If people are actually getting their phone out while they are on an attraction well, that's weird to me but ok.We go at a slow time of year, intentionally to help accommodate DD, so it's not often that we're waiting more than 10 mins between tapping the final LL point and boarding the ride.
My comment re: taking twice as long to eat remains the same at character meals. It physically takes our child longer to eat. Add in the distraction of characters and the time it takes her to be able to navigate an interaction (which, thankfully, CMs are always quite gracious about) and it takes even longer. So no, we still aren't exiting at the same time a typical family would be if they entered at the same time we did. Please take some time to think outside of your own experience.
Splash4eva
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Its weird because its something you dont do & others do which takes literally seconds to do & book. Hmmmm okay
. Regarding your situation im not comparing everyone is different but if its taking you 2.5-3 hours to eat im pretty sure its safe to say thats not the norm for the majority of people. Im on record plenty stating DAS users who need it have other issues which prevent some to have a day on par with others. Either way being able to have a ride in hand once you are done eating wherher 30 minutes or 3 hours is in fact a nice perk vs others who dont have DAS have. There is no denying that…
Angel Ariel
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I think it's odd to wait for an attraction and then once in the middle of experiencing the attraction be distracted by a phone to book another one, yes. I mean, in line waiting to board is one thing - but I'm responding to your assertion being during the attraction. I didn't say it was wrong, I just don't agree that it's the norm to book another ride while actually in the middle of a ride. Whatever floats your boatIts weird because its something you dont do & others do which takes literally seconds to do & book. Hmmmm okay
Where did I say our situation was typical? (For the record it isn't 3 hours). I simply suggested taking a moment to understand they DAS doesn't result in an advantage for everyone. Perhaps you are able to do more than a typical guest due to DAS. Ok..not debating your experience. That doesn't mean it's the case for everyone.
seabreezept813
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I see what you're saying. I kind of wonder if it makes a difference as you would assume most people who need DAS aren't able to just ride a headliner all day. I have a child who has qualified for DAS and if I got her on a big ride once in the day it would be a big success. We've use it more for the mid-tier rides that have unreasonable waits like Navi River. Even then I don't think we've ever used it more than twice for one ride.
Splash4eva
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Again it takes seconds. So yea if im on KS it would be foolish not to book something while sitting in a jeep. FoP at times can be longer granted the double tap. Same with Soarin. Any show ie Frozen/Muppets/Philhamrgic is the same. So yea to literally take 10-15 seconds max to book something during an attraction is a no brainer….I think it's odd to wait for an attraction and then once in the middle of experiencing the attraction be distracted by a phone to book another one, yes. I mean, in line waiting to board is one thing - but I'm responding to your assertion being during the attraction. I didn't say it was wrong, I just don't agree that it's the norm to book another ride while actually in the middle of a ride. Whatever floats your boat
Where did I say our situation was typical? (For the record it isn't 3 hours). I simply suggested taking a moment to understand they DAS doesn't result in an advantage for everyone. Perhaps you are able to do more than a typical guest due to DAS. Ok..not debating your experience. That doesn't mean it's the case for everyone.
In regards to your other comment. Trust me im well aware its not an advantage to everyone or anyone at all. Im stating certain “advantage's” DAS can provide. And in regards to your eating time. You said it takes double than a normal guest. Typically a character meal will be a solid hour or longer. Hence the 2.5-3 hour time frame i used. If thats incorrect then it was based on your comment
Angel Ariel
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My original comment was based on regular dining. You brought in character dining specifically - which is something we rarely do for multiple reasons. One of being that it typically does take somewhere between 1.5-2 hrs. I don't know that we've spent more than 2 hrs at one, because at some point it isn't serving her well to keep going.
All I'm suggesting in my posts is perhaps considering that how you travel is not the only way to travel. You feel it's "foolish" not to take your phone out and book another ride while on KS. Ok, have at it. Not saying that's a bad thing
For me, I prefer spending that time interacting with my daughter and taking photos, so it would be "foolish" to me to interrupt that by being on my phone booking a different ride. Different strokes.
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Tigger&Pooh
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Isn't the bottom line, though, that if DISNEY thought limiting DAS-users to X-number of rides or what they can do while waiting -- DISNEY would have instituted such changes? Since Disney didn't make any of those changes, and I fully trust they have the data about such things, it's likely not the big issue people here seem to think.
Chi84
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Disney wants to limit access to the LLs to people who buy them, both disabled and non-disabled. It’s their business model now that they are selling LL access.
Clearly, they intend to limit DAS to those who those they believe cannot wait in conventional lines.
My bet is that any change short of that was not considered.
Splash4eva
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15-20 seconds is all it takes to have a better experience especially where people need DAS to make the waiting Less anywhere Whether in line or elsewhere for your time to arrive. Try it next time. I assure you. Your trip with your daughter will not be ruined & you will still get plenty of photos in as well.My original comment was based on regular dining. You brought in character dining specifically - which is something we rarely do for multiple reasons. One of being that it typically does take somewhere between 1.5-2 hrs. I don't know that we've spent more than 2 hrs at one, because at some point it isn't serving her well to keep going.
All I'm suggesting in my posts is perhaps considering that how you travel is not the only way to travel. You feel it's "foolish" not to take your phone out and book another ride while on KS. Ok, have at it. Not saying that's a bad thing
Angel Ariel
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Angel Ariel
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I'm really quite good with how we experience the parks.
The accommodations DAS provides are sufficient without having to try to max out on anything.Tigger&Pooh
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I think your needs for DAS and @Angel Ariel 's needs for DAS (her child's needs) are so entirely different that your comment comes across as very rude and ableist. You need to remember that even with the new qualifications there can be a broad spectrum of disability needs.
Angel Ariel
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And the bolded is all i'm trying to highlight here. There is no single way DAS is used or appreciated.