Validating that someone has a disability does nothing when it comes to determining accommodations.
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New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024
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People who scam will continue to scam. They will make their own notes or honestly just ask their dr to write a note and say they have anxiety or something. Most doctors want to help. If a patient says, hey will you write me this note for my trip it would really help me out, do you think they’d say no? I just don’t feel documentation is going to help THAT much, especially since the previous issues were due to overuse, not abuse…. Now if the new DAS approvals end up overwhelming the system and we are back in the same boat, then maybe, but until then I just don’t think documentation is the answer.
Splash4eva
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Again anyone with any legit disability that will be approved should embrace this as it weeds out more liars and cheats. Im not sure where the disconnect here is in conveying this message.
If approvals start overwhelming the system again, at some point I can Disney just going the route of saying there is no way to accommodate those who can't wait in line without negatively impacting park operations.
Splash4eva
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I agree cheaters will cheat. So you really believe a Dr is going to write a fake diagnosis of say some child having autism where there is no proof of it etc for one of his/her patients for them to skip a line?!? Listen im from NY and am as skeptical as can be and far from naive but no way is your Dr doing that and risking his license. Im sorry.
OK, so it weeds out liars and cheats, but liars and cheats aren't what caused the biggest part of the problem with DAS. So now you've weeded out the liars and cheats, and you're left with people who have proven they have a disability, but that doesn't mean they need a DAS, so they'll be offered alternate accommodations.
At this point, we're basically where we are now, but with an added layer of providing documentation. I don't see how it solves anything.
So Disney has a valid doctor's note confirming an autism diagnosis...then what? Does everyone with that diagnosis get a DAS automatically?
Diagnosis doesn’t matter right? So the Dr doesn’t need to write a diagnosis…. It really depends what the documentation is. Just a letter form a dr that someone needs an accommodation due to a medical issue, sure I think that would be quite easy to get. Anyone could say they have anxiety and probably get their dr to write something for them by explaining it would help them. Now I’m not sure many people would actually do that, but I also don’t think that many people were cheating the system in the first place either. So again, how much is it going to help if Disney keeps it to this same set of people?
TrainsOfDisney
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It’s not a disconnect - not everybody agrees with you, just like everybody doesn’t agree with me.
Chi84
Premium Member
No, but it would confirm that an accommodation is being requested due to a disability. For example, if someone says all the right words on a call to trigger DAS but doesn't have a doctor's note it would matter. Disney is restricting DAS to people who are unable to stand in a conventional line "due to" a developmental disability such as autism.
The problem comes in with our disability law, which generally prevents businesses from asking the nature and extent of a disability. I don't think Disney is anxious to go down this route unless even this severely restricted DAS program doesn't work.
Agree, but again, I don't think the biggest problem was cheaters. And if that's the case, then a note really does nothing of value, IMO.
Splash4eva
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it gives Disney a better idea of maybe how to deal with those who 100% qualify and also how to deal with those who no longer qualify and how to proceed.
I don't see how it possibly makes any difference, but I guess you do.
Chi84
Premium Member
I don’t think it was the biggest problem. But it’s not an insignificant one either.
How? It’s still based on need though, not diagnosis right?
My thought as well. To believe that documentation is going to make a difference, you would have to believe that everyone that is currently being denied is denied because Disney thinks they're lying, and I don't believe that's the case.
Chi84
Premium Member
It is but the need has to be due to a disability. If there’s no disability, need doesn’t come into play. At least according to Disney’s description of the program. The diagnosis doesn’t matter, but there has to be a disability.
Angel Ariel
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Agreed, and I do think it's better than the ibcces process.
Angel Ariel
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Angel Ariel
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That, I believe, is a part of why the lawsuit was filed against six flags (if I'm remembering correctly) - that requiring the ibcces prevents people with disabilities from just walking up to the gate and deciding that day as anyone else can.