No one is arguing that DAS was handed out like candy. My issue with many of the posts is the lumping in of everyone, as if everyone was lying to get it. Yes, the fakers had a huge advantage. But I don't agree that those with legitimate medical conditions had any advantage since most still ended up doing less than the average park quest.
But at what point do you realize this is again crippling the system and simply say like they did now… all DAS must be pre booked with NO incentive. Policies change alllll the time. This was one that needed to change as well.
Because a lot of people booking day of at Guest Services messes with park ops. They wanted to incentivize people to book in advance.
I don’t think the prebooks were as big an impact as you do. Yes, they added stress to the system, but they are not the reason alone that the system failed. Or, to put it another way, eliminating prebooks alone wouldn’t solve the poweruse issue, and the overuse issue.
Because those folks can be acccommodated with other reasonable accommodations for their limitations that do not so badly interfere with park operations.
Again. Policies change alll the times. We are seeing it now. Why didnt they do this sooner with the pre books?
I agree, except that I think DAS users understand basic park touring strategy at least as well as everyone else.
I would bet their analytics showed that this wasn’t what was crippling the system. They could control how many prebooks were given out. It was a known. It certainly had an impact on a limited resource, yes, but not as big an impact as the overall DAS overuse.
Tell that to them.
It's not just the fakers though. There are plenty of people with disabilities that didn't need that level of accommodation, hence the overuse component of the problem.
Maybe because eliminating prebooks would have been shuffling deck chairs on the titanic and they realized it? Easier to do a wholesale overhaul once they recognized the system was irredeemably broken.
I wonder about those as well. If DAS was already over-used, then why make the problem worse?
That may be true, but I don't think that separating people from their families is the way to go either. For example with my issues, I would have to leave the average line at least twice. So using the returning to the queue feature, I would be separated from my family in every line. Just think about that if it were you and your family. Do you actually think that is reasonable, for a family to go on a vacation and be separated from each other a good chunk of time? Putting the stress on the healthy adult to have to spend that time in line with the kids themselves. And the guilt of the disabled adult because they are the ones "doing" this to their family.
You’re making an assumption. In any event, we all decide for ourselves.
The advantage comes from Disney allowing DAS users to ride something else while waiting. That effectively makes DAS an unlimited G+ with better return times for those who choose to ride something else while waiting for their return time. It is also what makes it ripe for abuse by skidmarks with no sense of right and wrong who are happy to lie about a false issue in order to get DAS. It increases Standby times at the other (typically non-geadliner) attractions since there are then groups of people in line for the 2nd ride who otherwise wouldn't be. I understand why Disney hasn't chosen to address that issue (yet) - enforcing it would require additional expenses for both tapstiles in the Standby entrance and additional staff to monitor those tapstiles. I'm sure they're hoping that these other changes will be enough to fix the issue. However, just because it isn't being addressed now doesn't mean it doesn't happen and doesn't cause problems. And pointing it out doesn't mean that anyone thinks every single DAS user does it (or even can do it, logistically).
I get it is a personal thing but we separate all the time for various reasons in the park so yes, I do think it is reasonable. Did it when we went to DL when I was a child and we do it now as adults. It isn't a huge deal, and I am frankly puzzled by the people who think it is. In fact, I would say it was the common way to handle things for most of the park’s history.
The ADA only entitles you to the same access to Disney’s services as everyone else. It does not require that this access is given in a way that allows your family to skip a line with you if they are otherwise able to wait in that line. If you want to avoid that, then you are looking for a luxury upcharge like genie+, which you can purchase just like everyone else.
