Oh, I'm sure, I think we were talking about different things. I was speaking more along the lines of "Wouldn't it be nice if new attraction queues were built like the Dumbo one, with an ability for guests to do something other than stand around in a line while waiting." I'd love to see that for new attractions in their expansions. I recognize that's not going to work for existing attractions or reskins.
Choosing to split up is different from being forced to split up. A major theme of the law and the subsequent standards is to not separate those with disabilities from others.
Actually, the new verbiage is "immediate family," so I think that's probably limited to parents/guardians and children. Siblings maybe since they'd at least have to allow minor siblings if it's a minor child who has the DAS travelling with their immediate family, but beyond that the language seems pretty limited. Larger families can of course still travel with someone utilizing DAS, but they're giong to need to probably make use of rider switch.
If they just build the appropriate level of the appropriate things to entertain their crowds…this entire scenario wouldn’t be a problem
The Dumbo play area is fantastic and definitely is not "wasted space."
You and I both know they're not going to do that in the next 25 years or so though (or until Iger retires, which will also be in approximately 25 years), so maybe this would be something? I mean they've done it before, they did build dumbo, dumbo is a fun queue, my kids have sometimes done it without actually riding the ride.
That is absolutely how they were designed… and it worked
It wouldn't be AS MUCH of a problem. There will still be people who think they are entitled to free front of line access and will access the DAS system under false pretenses.
Ugh, Iger - cannot stand him. You do realize that in 25 years, Iger will be +/- 96yo?
Well if you’re in an army that’s outnumbered…do you just throw up your hands and get shot? Or try to see if you can claw your way out of it?
They don't need to hold the entire queue, they just need to hold a portion of the queue to still be something that is better for people than waiting in that portion of the queue. The dumbo area doesn't hold the entire queue.
We’re having two separate conversations at this point. I’m not talking about a room for DAS. I’m talking about a room for everyone. And no, not like a pre-show, or the test track build a car, because everyone enters and leaves that at the same time so that ends up being just another stopping point in the queue (albeit a better one than nothing). I’m talking about a dynamic room like Dumbo where people enter and leave in dynamic fashion based upon when they entered (in Dumbo they use pagers). That would occupy people for longer than the standard pre-show if it was large enough.
The rule doesn't exist for standby because those guests can't leave the line to ride multiple attractions while they wait - so there is no logical reason for them to be separated. The only option available for non-DAS parties that would be similar is paying for G+/ILL. Disney can easily make the case that this is a reasonable accommodation under the law since they are still providing access to the ride as required while preventing abuse that has created an operational headache.
And this has been gone over. There's a difference between choosing to separate for a few rides, while having a boatload of rides that a family can choose to ride together as there's no height requirement, and telling some families they *have* to separate in order to have a disability need met, and that being the case on any ride in the park at any given time.
How would you know? You created this account 1min before posting that.
