News New Changes Coming to the Disney Look 2021

[LittleBuford]

Again, in general, people probably have a much hazier understanding of period-appropriate hairstyles. They might be anachronistic, but they're less likely to register as such unless the style is really severe. Things like fonts occupy a similar space, where the setting might technically be from a time before, say, Helvetica was created, but that won't register for most people. Modern tattoo artistry, on the other hand, is something that obviously never shows up in traditional western historic imagery and can include content that could be totally incongruous with the rest of the costume and environment.

I definitely see what you’re saying, but I think tattoos are becoming normal enough that guests will increasingly be able to edit them out of consideration. It would be interesting to revisit this thread in, say, ten years’ time.

 

[LittleBuford]

A little off-topic, but does anyone know why the original female costume for Main Street was equestrian? (That’s how it reads to me anyway.)

 

[lazyboy97o]

That said, it's actually the frumpy shoes many wear that bother me more than anything else about the current look even if I do understand the desire for comfort.

They’re part of the look and they’re awful. They’re slip resistant but they’re all so big and don’t really match at all. Really drives me nuts when they’re paired with a brown belt (the extra suspenders with the belt are also an occasional plus).

 

[UNCgolf]

Eventually they will just be 'workers' instead of 'cast' so everyone can ignore the show portion entirely. After all.. they can't fill the roles anyway..

Disney has already given up on a bunch of the show portion with their cuts and stripping away at theme, so makes sense to not worry about the CMs maintaining it.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Jewelry seems like something that they should be able to restrict. Almost no one needs to wear a necklace, rings, specific earrings, etc. to work; I don't see any issue in having restrictions on that as part of costume control.

Jewelry except for two small hoop earrings are barred in the 'new look.'

EDIT: Oops, I was wrong, other jewelry is allowed if not distracting.

 

[UNCgolf]

I definitely see what you’re saying, but I think tattoos are becoming normal enough that guests will increasingly be able to edit them out of consideration. It would be interesting to revisit this thread in, say, ten years’ time.

The other thing is that it's basically only lower arm, lower leg, and hand/wrist tattoos that will be visible anyways, and even that's only the case with certain costumes because some have pants or long sleeves.

Well, and facial/neck tattoos I guess, but not many people have those and I'm not even sure if they're allowed under the new rules.

 

[UNCgolf]

Jewelry except for two small hoop earrings are barred in the 'new look.'

That's about what I expected.

 

[LittleBuford]

For what it's worth, I completely agree. Sad commentary on the state of American society, in my opinion.

I think there are better ways to measure the health of a society than how people dress. Sure, people may have worn smarter attire back in the 1950s, but the world was a much less tolerant and equitable place.

 

[MisterPenguin]

That's about what I expected.

Oops, I was wrong...

That's the limit for earrings, but other jewelry, if not distracting is allowed.

https://disneycasting.net/downloads/wdpr/Disney_Look_Book.pdf

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

CMs complying with Disney's "new look" are lightyears ahead of what the average guest looks like.

CMs are a reflection of society, whether that’s progress or simply sloppiness is debatable.

I agree the guests are infinitely worse than the CMs though, I don’t think a single day goes by where I don’t see see through leggings, to barely there clothing, to suggestive sayings and even profanity… you see it all at Disney every trip now.

Dapper days are my favorite days at Disney now, ironically because the same personal individuality that brings the bizarre clothing on normal days results in amazing clothing on Dapper days.

 

[castlecake2.0]

A little off-topic, but does anyone know why the original female costume for Main Street was equestrian? (That’s how it reads to me anyway.)

That’s still the costume for the tour guides at MK, complete with riding crop and helmet for the skirt costume. It’s just always been the style since the first tour guide at Disneyland, I’m assuming Walt liked the look and it’s just stuck.

 

[LittleBuford]

That’s still the costume for the tour guides at MK, complete with riding crop and helmet for the skirt costume. It’s just always been the style since the first tour guide at Disneyland, I’m assuming Walt liked the look and it’s just stuck.View attachment 683265

It's very weird and random when you stop to think about it. I can't help feeling that some of the earlier versions of the costume, with their rather short skirts and high socks, had more to do with titillating male guests than evoking an authentic turn-of-the-century small-town atmosphere:

 

[Lilofan]

One item I learned from someone who worked at WDW is that there is a costuming dept that can tailor pants and shirts if necessary with their seamstress . The former CM was over 300 lbs.

 

[Joel]

You're using a post that tells someone who doesn't like the new look to stop staring and/or going to tell me, who is OK with the new look to stop staring and/or going?

Just pointing out the silliness of those that seem to be offended by someone not just for disagreeing with changes to the guidelines (which is a perfectly valid thing to argue about), but for the crime of merely noticing alternative styles of dress/grooming. And then you have posts like "hey, I saw a dude in a dress and then scanned the crowd to make sure no one was bothered by it!" Which, of course, is totally cool and not "staring" or being too "observant", since you have the correct opinion on the issue.

No offense intended (not towards you, anyway). It's just very funny to me.

 

[RobWDW1971]

It is simply about the brand and what product you are selling.

Are you selling yourself as a professional, world class service and entertainment company?

Or are you the local carnival with employees who look like they are out of a prison release program with bushy beards and tats up the arms and long hair as have been posted on this board?

The professionalism of Chick Fil A and In N Out employees in Southern California is more constant in my experience. They tend to be more polished, groomed, with better fitting uniforms - and they are local fast food outlets.

As has been pointed out before, the more they lower the standards, the easier it is fill the jobs, and the lower they can keep the wages.

Higher standards mean higher wages to attract more polished, professional service employees.

So by celebrating the lower standards you are also ensuring the cast will continue to be poorly paid.

There's a reason Four Seasons employees get paid more than Motel 6 employees.

 

[_caleb]

Just pointing out the silliness of those that seem to be offended by someone not just for disagreeing with changes to the guidelines (which is a perfectly valid thing to argue about), but for the crime of merely noticing alternative styles of dress/grooming. And then you have posts like "hey, I saw a dude in a dress and then scanned the crowd to make sure no one was bothered by it!" Which, of course, is totally cool and not "staring" or being too "observant", since you have the correct opinion on the issue.

No offense intended (not towards you, anyway). It's just very funny to me.

I was the one to say “observant.” You added to make it “too observant.” My comment was about the fact that I don’t tend to notice the things listed in the post I was responding to.

 

[_caleb]

Are you selling yourself as a professional, world class service and entertainment company?

Or are you the local carnival with employees who look like they are out of a prison release program with bushy beards and tats up the arms and long hair as have been posted on this board?

Are these the only two options?

I think Cast Members should be playing a role. They should be in character and in costume (not “uniforms”), and they should be paid well for it. Why does the kid working at In-N-Out make more than the CM operating Space Mountain?

 

[RobWDW1971]

Are these the only two options?

I think Cast Members should be playing a role. They should be in character and in costume (not “uniforms”), and they should be paid well for it. Why does the kid working at In-N-Out make more than the CM operating Space Mountain?

When I was young I worked Disneyland attractions and fast food - hands down the In N Out employee should make much more than the attraction host, but that's a conversation for another thread.

My absolute worst day at DL was a stroll in the park compared to an eight hour shift in a non-stop fast food restaurant like In N Out.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I am also a previous Disneyland attractions CM. I’d say I was stressed 85% of the time. The only time I was 100% stress-free was when I was doing guest control.

 

[RobWDW1971]

I am also a previous Disneyland attractions CM. I’d say I was stressed 85% of the time. The only time I was 100% stress-free was when I was doing guest control.

Stressed as a Disneyland attractions cast member? Can't imagine any job in the real world with less stress and I have hired them at all levels in multiple industries.

But again, topic for another thread....