News New Changes Coming to the Disney Look 2021

[MisterPenguin]

Thank you.

As I suspected, this was me just riffing on lowered standards. Not actually claiming that purple hair was now a thing. I was using purple hair as a metaphor for the types of young people that, well, dye their hair purple.

Should I send all my future posts to you for proof reading? Be advised, at this time of night I'm usually having a double Scotch and don't really care about what I type. I may even say stuff like "purple haired CM's!"

This is all so silly. Disney just lowered their standards for employees. They have severely undermined the entire concept of "Cast Member" and what it traditionally meant. Conveniently for the execs, they can frame this as being "more inclusive" and valuing the diversity of their employees. A few of these changes fall into that category, again the Sikh shown wearing a turban. But most of these changes are nothing more than lowering standards to widen the available labor pool and suppress wage growth and benefit expenses.

The fallout is that the Disneyland show suffers and will be injured by having Frontierland cowboys wearing pearl-drop earrings or having Tiki Room hostesses flashing skull tats as they wake up Jose.

You either still haven't read the new guidelines or are purposefully misrepresenting them. There will be no visible skull tats.

 

[TP2000]

You either still haven't read the new guidelines or are purposefully misrepresenting them. There will be no visible skull tats.

I read the whole thing. Here are the new rules for tats...

TATTOOS

Visible tattoos are permitted, with the exception of placement on the face, head or neck. Tattoos must be no larger than the Cast Member’s hand when fully extended with the fingers held together.

Tattoos that depict nudity, offensive or inappropriate language or images, or violate Company policies (including policies prohibiting discrimination and harassment based on race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, national origin, ancestry, age, disability or any other protected category) are not permitted.

A Tiki Room hostess wearing a five inch long skull tat on her forearm is perfectly acceptable now.

If anything, this rule discriminates against employees with small hands. A guy with a big hand gets to have a bigger skull tat on his leg or arm.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I’m still very curious about the tattoos and religious symbols / phrases.

 

[J4546]

jeez you sound like such a fun person to be around

 

[TP2000]

I’m still very curious about the tattoos and religious symbols.

Traditionally, Jewish CM's were not allowed to wear Yarmulke's at work and Catholics weren't allowed to show an ash mark on their forehead when going to work on Ash Wednesday.

That seems to be over. They used the Muslim woman and the Sikh man in the photos. But I see no reason why Jews can't wear Yarmulke's or Catholics can't wear ash marks on their foreheads while working at Space Mountain or The Emporium or The Blue Bayou. That all seems to be fairly reasonable.

The rules on tats seem a bit vague. Instead of listing sizes in inches, they make it based on the employees hand size. That's odd. Who decides what is an "inappropriate image"??? I assume a naked lady tat is not okay, but if the lady is wearing a bikini is that okay? People at Blizzard Beach and at Disney hotel pools wear bikinis, so why isn't this okay on the forearm of the busboy clearing your table at the Plaza Inn? If the busboy with this tat is comfortable, why do the paying customers get to tell him he shouldn't be comfortable?

 

[King Racoon 77]

Maybe skull tattoos may be deemed offensive

 

[TP2000]

Maybe skull tattoos may be deemed offensive

Sure. But by whom? The Dockers clad manager? And what if the manager at Space Mountain thinks the tat of the lingerie model isn't offensive because she's not naked and that manager belongs to a swinger's club, but the manager at Thunder Mountain thinks the lingerie model is offensive because that manager is a Muslim.

The rules on tattoos are all rather vague.

The other thing is that none of these new rules are based on gender. There's nothing preventing a male employee from wearing false eyelashes and a smoky mascara treatment. Men seem to be allowed to wear makeup, if they want.

The only makeup rules are even more vague than the tattoo rules...

MAKEUP
If makeup is worn, it should be applied in a blended manner and in neutral colors.

That's only sixteen words about how to wear makeup when working at a Disney theme park. That would seem to open up a huge pandora's box of issues and elaborate makeup among employees of all genders.

 

[Lilofan]

There are rotation and different tasks too. I worked in both Custodial and Park Services and it had the most freedom of any department. Not the cushiest, but even in the most action that was Magic Kingdom South, it had the most freedom. You are not always on the same task. And with the heat or lightning safety never felt second.

Still out in the scorching summer heat. That's a fact. It is a good things they are wearing white. Now some can wear earrings, blue nail polish to add to their gold chains on their neck.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I read the whole thing. Here are the new rules for tats...

TATTOOS

Visible tattoos are permitted, with the exception of placement on the face, head or neck. Tattoos must be no larger than the Cast Member’s hand when fully extended with the fingers held together. Tattoos that depict nudity, offensive or inappropriate language or images, or violate Company policies (including policies prohibiting discrimination and harassment based on race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, national origin, ancestry, age, disability or any other protected category) are not permitted.

A Tiki Room hostess wearing a five inch long skull tat on her forearm is perfectly acceptable now.

If anything, this rule discriminates against employees with small hands. A guy with a big hand gets to have a bigger skull tat on his leg or arm.

Tattoos that depict nudity, offensive or inappropriate language or images, or violate Company policies (including policies prohibiting discrimination and harassment based on race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, national origin, ancestry, age, disability or any other protected category) are not permitted.​

No skull.

And your concern for small-handed CMs (whose small hands will usually be in proportion to a small body on which tattoos will be proportionally small) is just so heart-warming and totally sincere.

Now that you've show you've read the guidelines, it's clear now that you're just purposefully misconstruing them.

 

[Lilofan]

Sure. But by whom? The Dockers clad manager? And what if the manager at Space Mountain thinks the tat of the lingerie model isn't offensive because she's not naked and that manager belongs to a swinger's club, but the manager at Thunder Mountain thinks the lingerie model is offensive because that manager is a Muslim.

The rules on tattoos are all rather vague.

The other thing is that none of these new rules are based on gender. There's nothing preventing a male employee from wearing false eyelashes and a smoky mascara treatment. Men seem to be allowed to wear makeup, if they want.

The only makeup rules are even more vague than the tattoo rules...

MAKEUP
If makeup is worn, it should be applied in a blended manner and in neutral colors.

That's only sixteen words about how to wear makeup when working at a Disney theme park. That would seem to open up a huge pandora's box of issues and elaborate makeup among employees of all genders.

Make up on men that work outside? Ever been at MK in the summertime where it is so hot you can fry an egg on Main Street. That make up would melt.

 

[TP2000]

No skull.

And your concern for small-handed CMs (whose small hands will usually be in proportion to a small body on which tattoos will be proportionally small) is just so heart-warming and totally sincere.

Now that you've show you've read the guidelines, it's clear now that you're just purposefully misconstruing them.

Is a skull inappropriate? Why? If it is, why not just say that skulls aren't allowed? Why make it so vague?

Personally, I find the skull far less offensive than the lingerie lady. But is the lingerie lady okay? Are depictions of women inappropriate?

There's really no rules here. It's all subjective and vague. Why is a human skull inappropriate? We all have them. They aren't obscene.

 

[TP2000]

Make up on men that work outside? Ever been at MK in the summertime where it is so hot you can fry an egg on Main Street. That make up would melt.

Sure. But not at Disneyland. Anaheim has a delightful climate, with the exception of a few days in August or September when it's very hot and the Santa Ana winds blow.

 

[nokahoma]

this is the most ridiculous thread on this entire board. geez.

 

[TP2000]

Here's an interesting rule...

FACIAL HAIR
Facial hair should be neatly groomed and well maintained. The shaving of lines or shapes in facial hair is permitted provided they do not depict offensive words or symbols.

Okay, so no swear words or National Socialism swastikas carved into your beard. But anything else goes?

The same rule shows up in hairstyles...

HAIRSTYLING & HAIR COLORING
Hairstyles that are clean and well maintained represent our Disney brand.
Hair length, including completely shaved styling, is at the Cast Member’s discretion.
Hair below shoulder length should be secured if it falls forward over the face or covers the nametag while working. If the hair color is changed, it should be well maintained and in naturally occurring hues. Examples of hair colors that are not considered natural would be colors such as blue, green, pink, purple, etc. The shaving of lines or shapes in the hair is permitted provided they do not depict offensive words or symbols.

So male employees can now have long hair. If men have long hair, a la' Crystal Gayle, they must tie it back with a scrunchy or a ribbon.

But men and women can also shave lines and designs into their hair, except for swear words of "offensive symbols".

 

[Indy_UK]

I consider a lot of the cast roles similar to working in theatre. Your paid by a company to dress a certain way to look part of what they are looking to achieve. This relaxation on rules could completely throw this all out

 

[MisterPenguin]

Is a skull inappropriate? Why? If it is, why not just say that skulls aren't allowed? Why make it so vague?

This again goes to your insincerity and bad faith in this 'discussion' since you keep bringing it up as an example of it being inappropriate and now you ask ""innocently"" why it would be inappropriate.

I'll say to you what I've already said to someone else attempting this epistemological sophistry of a version of the fallacious slippery slope argument...

This is just epistemological sophistry. Judgement calls have to be made all the time.​

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When does a guest's revealing clothes become too revealing that they're barred entry?​

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When does a guest's T-shirt logo or slogan become too offensive to allow into the park?​

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CMs at the entrance have to make that judgment call all the time.​

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Some of the 'new look' has clear standards: Earrings -- maximum of two and no bigger than X inches.​

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Some of the 'new look' is based on judgement calls. When are tattoos 'too much'? Only general guidelines are given that can not be boiled down to "X square inches of coverage, and here's a list of a thousand things it can be and a thousand things it can't be."​

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Just like entrance CMs don't measure the ratio of bikini top to square inches of revealed breast to make a judgment call that a top is too revealing, you don't need anything more than the general guideline "no bigger than your hand."​

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CMs have to make a judgment call over what they then have to cover or not. Their supervisors then have to give them feedback on whether they chose correctly.​

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Boiling this down to "tats everywhere or no tats at all" is way too black and white and ignores the judgment calls we have to make all the time.​

 

[nokahoma]

I don't know what's more amazing: that somebody referenced Crystal Gayle, of all people, as an example of long hair in 2021, or that they misspelled her name.

Disney is DEAD because a man who works there might have hair as long as a country singer who was popular over 40 years ago and whose name I don't know how to spell.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Here's an interesting rule...

FACIAL HAIR
Facial hair should be neatly groomed and well maintained. The shaving of lines or shapes in facial hair is permitted provided they do not depict offensive words or symbols.

Okay, so no swear words or National Socialism swastikas carved into your beard. But anything else goes?

The same rule shows up in hairstyles...

HAIRSTYLING & HAIR COLORING
Hairstyles that are clean and well maintained represent our Disney brand.
Hair length, including completely shaved styling, is at the Cast Member’s discretion.
Hair below shoulder length should be secured if it falls forward over the face or covers the nametag while working. If the hair color is changed, it should be well maintained and in naturally occurring hues. Examples of hair colors that are not considered natural would be colors such as blue, green, pink, purple, etc. The shaving of lines or shapes in the hair is permitted provided they do not depict offensive words or symbols.

So male employees can now have long hair. If men have long hair, a la' Crystal Gayle, they must tie it back with a scrunchy or a ribbon.

But men and women can also shave lines and designs into their hair, except for swear words of "offensive symbols".

Yeah, we've read the guidelines.

Glad you've finally gotten around to reading them as compared to your previous uninformed ranting.

Judgement calls have to be made. Just like they've always been with the previous guidelines.

If you don't understand how to stay within the guidelines, don't work for Disney.

 

[TP2000]

This again goes to your insincerity and bad faith in this 'discussion' since you keep bringing it up as an example of it being inappropriate and now you ask ""innocently"" why it would be inappropriate.

I'll say to you what I've already said to someone else attempting this epistemological sophistry of a version of the fallacious slippery slope argument...

I thought I mentioned that at this time of the night (Pacific Time) that I'm usually having a double Scotch. And now I'm expected to know what the words "epistemological sophistry" mean?

I mean honestly, I couldn't even tell you what those words mean if I was sober at high Noon.

 

[TP2000]

I don't know what's more amazing: that somebody referenced Crystal Gayle, of all people, as an example of long hair in 2021, or that they misspelled her name.

Disney is DEAD because a man who works there might have hair as long as a country singer who was popular over 40 years ago and whose name I don't know how to spell.

That was me. I loved Crystal Gail Gayle! So much so that I bothered to Google her name after I typed it because I thought... "wait a minute, that doesn't look right. How does she spell it again?"