You have to be knocked off the top before you can return to the top.So we are basically hoping that Magic Johnson buys a theme park and then grossly overpays Disney for the rights to NextGen and its bloated $2B budget allowing Disney to rebuild WDW with solid new attractions that will return them to the top of the theme park world.
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New 2013 WDW Ticket Prices
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Cletus
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With their current offerings it sure appears they are doing their best to make sure that's more feasible than it once was.
Really? The largest expansion in MK history and it only pulled in an extra 2%? Huh...
asianway
Well-Known Member
In all fairness, and I am no fan of NFE, it was only open 2.5 months of the year, most of that in soft open so no significant number of people were timing a trip around it.
culturenthrills
Well-Known Member
I think one of the things besides FP that makes the parks feel busier than they ever have is due to the price increases more people are staying in the parks all day. Used to be many people would head back to their hotels after lunch to relax by the pool or take a nap and come back later(ESP when hours were longer) but with the high prices people feel they need to stay all day which leads to more trash, more cranky kids and parents and just a worse atmosphere combine this with cutbacks in entertainment, upkeep and staffing often makes the parks feel busier than they really are.
Cletus
Well-Known Member
Agreed. But IOA opened WWOHP in June of 2010 and saw a 30.2% increase. It jumped another 29% in 2011 and another 4% in 2012. An increase of 63.2% overall since Potter is pretty incredible no matter how you look at it. One can only imagine the increase UNI will see once Phase 2 is complete and you can transport between the two parks on HE.
The real question is why Disney would have a GRAND opening of NFE in October and be in softs and have two other components of it not even close to being completed.
WendyTinkerbell
Active Member
Another reason why people stay all day is because of return time of Fastpasses. If people get a return time for a Fastpass in the middle of the afternoon, they will stay to use that fastpass. People used to leave and just use the fastpass in the evening when they came back to the park. With the current one hour restriction, if you have a FP return time of lets say 2:10 to 3:10, it kind of becomes a choice of an afternoon swim or using the FP for the ride. It definetely makes a difference in the daily scheduling and parks feeling more crowded.
Captain Neo
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You know there are other Disney parks in the world right? (Disneyland in CA, Tokyo Disney Resort, etc.) and they are all far superior to the parks at WDW and cheaper too. Why not try those?
donsullivan
Premium Member
While one cannot dispute an attendance bounce at IoA post HP, those numbers do not tell the whole story. IoA had seen 5 years of declining attendance from 6.3M in 2004 down to 4.6M in 2009 - the year before HP opened. Only when they had HP open for a full year did they finally get to new highs in attendance. Now they appear to be leveling off following the bump from HP at that park which is exactly what one would expect. The investments clearly achieved an objective to stem the aggressive decline in attendance at that park and bring it back to new highs.
That's a great thing for them and the Orlando Theme Park market as a whole. However, lets keep a fully balanced perspective on the story and not select parts of the facts that tell the story we want to tell. IoA was in a very serious decline and after some major ownership changes, made some good solid investments to stem that decline.
disney4life2008
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I do not mean to sound like a crude - but the types of people that I see roaming the WDW parks now make me cringe. I am all for all types of social classes but - wow (I will leave it at that). Let me say by no means am I rich I am just barely making it myself. But when I go to WDW I appreciate the time there.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
I'm quoting myself here. DCA didn't quite catch IOA, but it came within 200K. Will blow it away in 2013.
I definitely thought the MK would see a little more of a bump from people visiting FLE in Q4. I am also surprised at the AK and DHS numbers as they were definitely above expectations. Maybe some of the noise about WDW suffering last summer was just that, noise. IOA up 4% was close to my expectations. USF did a little better. I didn't nail anything, but a few guesses came close.
Based on the stronger than expected WDW numbers its not surprising that they jacked up prices again this year. They raised prices last summer at a similar rate and more people came not less. They knew this before they announced the price increases.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
It made news aggrigator sites, so not surprising it made the nightly roundup. I'm convinced they use Drudgereport and Huffington Post to come up with a lot of their "relevant" material.
Tom
Beta Return
You're probably right, since those sites dig up the oddest, and easiest to mock, stories.
But for a late night host to talk about Disney raising ticket prices.....must be a REALLY slow funny-news day.
We've been to all of the Disney parks, worldwide. While tickets to those parks may be a few dollars cheaper, transportation to them for many of us is much more expensive.
I finally got a moment to actually look at the new prices. While $95 (or $90) for a ticket might certainly be enough to give a newbie guest pause, I think that the newbie or veteran guest who buys multi-day passes aren't going to be shocked.
I took a quick glance at my family's upcoming reservation and noted that we are locked in to 6-day non-hoppers for $296.07. (Since this trip is with free dining, we went ahead and bought our tickets from Disney, rather than through a discounter.) A six-day adult ticket under the new pricing is $318.44. That's a difference of a bit over $22, or close to $3.75 per person per day. (If we bought those hypothetical tickets from a discounter, they would cost significantly less at only $287.41.)
My point, I guess, is that while $95 is a shocking number, the actual ticket price per day is really around $50. This actual ticket cost is not so hard to swallow.
I took a quick glance at my family's upcoming reservation and noted that we are locked in to 6-day non-hoppers for $296.07. (Since this trip is with free dining, we went ahead and bought our tickets from Disney, rather than through a discounter.) A six-day adult ticket under the new pricing is $318.44. That's a difference of a bit over $22, or close to $3.75 per person per day. (If we bought those hypothetical tickets from a discounter, they would cost significantly less at only $287.41.)
My point, I guess, is that while $95 is a shocking number, the actual ticket price per day is really around $50. This actual ticket cost is not so hard to swallow.
Patrick_Ears
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As will my wife and I. We bought Uni AP's several years ago and find it money well spent, and we only live 900 miles away!
Only 900 miles.. hahaa is that round trip or say one way?
Oddysey
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I plan on doing DL California next year, and will also continue to renew my WDW pass. WDW is only 20 minutes away so I cant resist. Besides I have been an AP holder for 9 years, and I cant let it expire on an odd number. I have to it least make it an even number, and enjoy my personal Disney decade. As I said before, I am hopelessly addicted, and I will always find reasoning to renew. Even if it is something as silly as what I just wrote because that is what addicts do.