Nemo ride description (Spoilers)

Magicot

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“The portion of the old ride that ran around the fish tank is the existing ride system,” he said. “We snipped track off where it went in and out of the fish tank. The 280 feet of track we added is in the space that used to be theaters and the hydrolators that took Guests to the Sea Cabs.”

What does this quote mean? That parts throughout the old ride where you would see the aquarium were cut out and are now show scenes or just covered up? Is the only visable aquarium at the very end of the ride?:veryconfu
 

CTXRover

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What does this quote mean? That parts throughout the old ride where you would see the aquarium were cut out and are now show scenes or just covered up? Is the only visable aquarium at the very end of the ride?:veryconfu

No. The old track that went through the aquarium was, for all intents and purposes, a big circle. They added 280 feet of NEW track where the old theaters and sea cabs were. Then in order to connect it to the old track and basically make a bigger circle, they had to cut a small section out where the seacabs entered and exited the aquarium (between the load and unload areas) to reconnect the new to the old.

The entire old aquarium ride-through is present, but now it is the grand finale of the ride, rather than the whole ride. Hope that helps clear up some of your confusion. I'm not sure how else to explain it :)
 

the-reason14

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thanks for the info, this all sounds so great. I just wish it was gonna be open next weekend during my short trip. But I guess Ill just have to wait and see it at thanksgiving or christmas.
 

mousermerf

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What does this quote mean? That parts throughout the old ride where you would see the aquarium were cut out and are now show scenes or just covered up? Is the only visable aquarium at the very end of the ride?:veryconfu

In the original ride, you pretty much got on the ride, turned a corner, entered the tunnel, went around the "hub" of the observation deck, down the spoke of the observation deck walkway, and then unloaded on a moving platform that ran along the end of the observation deck walkway, and walked out right underneath and between the two saircases.

Note how the bypass they later constructed put you in the giftshop a mere 50 yards (or less) away. The vehicles returning the pickup guests weren't going too far.

Essentially, they snipped off that chunk of track, the "return" just like it exists in Haunted Mansion and even in a few tiny feet in Spaceship Earth - and then added lots more ride. Wether or not the ride ends right with the tank and unloads or goes a little further and unloads after another scene is yet to be seen. It could theorhetically continue on a little bit before unloading, but one would assume it'd want to still unload to the center of the pavilion like the original did.

To get to the tank, you have to go through the whole thing - through the tunnel, around perimeter of the observation deck, and then down the observation deck's walkway. From what i've seen, the projections are along the observation deck perimeter with what appears to be the unload belt at the end of the observation deck walkway (where the old one used to be).
 

EpcotServo

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Listen to Juan, "the angler fish will be a unique technology". He is correct. It's a VERY interesting use for another newer technology already found somewhere else in Epcot.

So there ARE animatronics in the ride. Not many, but they are there.
I'm going to take a wild guess here...is it a KUKA Robo (or "robocoaster") arm with an AA on the end of it? That just popped in to my head after reading the article and these posts. Am I right? Do I win something? :lol: That sounds neat, if my guess is correct.
 

Lewis Carroll

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In the living seas tribute video it said that living seas queue/ride/pavillion was designed to efficiently regulate crowds and then when the seacabs were shut down it screwed up the crowd flow. I am curious will the new pavillion have A) an even more messed up crowd flow B) restore the original crowd flow of the living seas or C) Improve it ??
 

mousermerf

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The original crowd flow was...

Queue - Preshow Circle with slideshow - Film A or B - Hydrolator - Ride - Seabase Alpha

After the ride shutdown it became...

Queue - Shortened Preshow Circle w/out slideshow - Film A And/OR Hydrolator - Seabase Alpha

With the bypass directly through the corner of the second theater to the hydrolators, and no ride, crowd levels went down a bit. People flowed right into Seabase Alpha. At first, this wasn't really a big deal, but was a bit disjoined as you came out right at the giftshop - very anticlimatic.

But - when Turtle Talk opened, it started to get crowded. Then when they closed down and got rid of the exit hydrolators and made it so people could just walk right in without having to wait the 5mins in the preshow or ride in a hydrolator the place became a mob scene.

I personally think that when the walls come down, and everyone wants to ride, people will stop going into the exit. No one really goes into the M:S exit even though its pretty darn neat in there. So, i think the ride will keep the crowd levels more moderated and even.
 

Main Street USA

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Well, then again, virtually every "old" EPCOT classic that many on here wish could come back had a song at the end. They were all taken out for whatever reason, but I do think it added something to those rides. I still have fond memories of those songs such as "Tomorrow's Child", "Universe of Energy", and "Living with the Land". Plus, from the press sample of this song for the new AK musical, I think it will be a very nice song and way to end the ride. We'll see.
Indeed. Man, THE SONG is what has been missing from so many of the newly created attractions. It's so important, yet has been ignored over and over again as of late. Thank goodness there will be a new song (and really, the only song the pavillion has ever had besides instrumental mixed with whale noises) with this upgrade!
 

Main Street USA

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The original crowd flow was...

Queue - Preshow Circle with slideshow - Film A or B - Hydrolator - Ride - Seabase Alpha

After the ride shutdown it became...

Queue - Shortened Preshow Circle w/out slideshow - Film A And/OR Hydrolator - Seabase Alpha

With the bypass directly through the corner of the second theater to the hydrolators, and no ride, crowd levels went down a bit. People flowed right into Seabase Alpha. At first, this wasn't really a big deal, but was a bit disjoined as you came out right at the giftshop - very anticlimatic.

But - when Turtle Talk opened, it started to get crowded. Then when they closed down and got rid of the exit hydrolators and made it so people could just walk right in without having to wait the 5mins in the preshow or ride in a hydrolator the place became a mob scene.

I personally think that when the walls come down, and everyone wants to ride, people will stop going into the exit. No one really goes into the M:S exit even though its pretty darn neat in there. So, i think the ride will keep the crowd levels more moderated and even.
Yeah, we had talked about this before. The extra few minutes of length on the ride, and the line that will form to get on it, will definitely help the flow inside the pavillion itself. Finally, the Seas will be a visited pavillion, once again.
 

imagineer boy

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CTXRover said:
Well, then again, virtually every "old" EPCOT classic that many on here wish could come back had a song at the end. They were all taken out for whatever reason, but I do think it added something to those rides. I still have fond memories of those songs such as "Tomorrow's Child", "Universe of Energy", and "Living with the Land". Plus, from the press sample of this song for the new AK musical, I think it will be a very nice song and way to end the ride. We'll see.

That true. However, the old epcot attractions simply had ensemble choir singing music in the backround. For this, we're talking about singing cartoon fish, so it might have some level of cheezienss.:lol: But, if done right, I guess it could work. We'll just have to wait and see.
 

Lewis Carroll

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That true. However, the old epcot attractions simply had ensemble choir singing music in the backround. For this, we're talking about singing cartoon fish, so it might have some level of cheezienss.:lol: But, if done right, I guess it could work. We'll just have to wait and see.

Yea it COULD work. I mean the original Imagination pavillion was a cartoony purple dragon. It really depends because if they make the charecters act to childish, loud, or "in your face" its going to be another Stitch's great escape but if they act like they do in the movie and its a healthy balance between nemo and the theme of the living seas then it could be good.

The fact that it will have audio animatronics right at the enterance speeks volumes. Granted they are just clones of the three seagulls being designed for Disneyland but still the fact that these "unnessary additions" weren't cut from the budget should send a sign that there is a very different management team in charge at disney now. The AA seagulls are minor in the grand scheme of thing but they do add to the nemo theme. I just hope they didn't get rid of the splashing wave effect.
 

mousermerf

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That true. However, the old epcot attractions simply had ensemble choir singing music in the backround. For this, we're talking about singing cartoon fish, so it might have some level of cheezienss.:lol: But, if done right, I guess it could work. We'll just have to wait and see.

Do i need to remind you of the "La la la la" chorus from Horizons or any of the lyrics from the other songs? Even in their moments of popularity, they were cheesy.
 

Piebald

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This ride sounds really cool and I'm definitely going to check it out during the CM previews....but not to bring a negative tone into the thread....

One of the girls who is on the opening team for this attraction said that in her opinion, capacity was going to be an issue. Something about the number of Clammobiles.......I think she said 150. I don't understand because that sounds like WAY too many Clammobiles so maybe someone can take a guess at how many "vehicles" would be reasonable for something like this? She explained it to me but of course, I wasn't listening :snore:
 

CaptainMichael

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This ride sounds really cool and I'm definitely going to check it out during the CM previews....but not to bring a negative tone into the thread....

One of the girls who is on the opening team for this attraction said that in her opinion, capacity was going to be an issue. Something about the number of Clammobiles.......I think she said 150. I don't understand because that sounds like WAY too many Clammobiles so maybe someone can take a guess at how many "vehicles" would be reasonable for something like this? She explained it to me but of course, I wasn't listening :snore:

Well, since it is an omnimover, they can only fit so many...I'm sure they have the max on there.
 

Blizz

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This ride sounds really cool and I'm definitely going to check it out during the CM previews....but not to bring a negative tone into the thread....

One of the girls who is on the opening team for this attraction said that in her opinion, capacity was going to be an issue. Something about the number of Clammobiles.......I think she said 150. I don't understand because that sounds like WAY too many Clammobiles so maybe someone can take a guess at how many "vehicles" would be reasonable for something like this? She explained it to me but of course, I wasn't listening :snore:

112 cabs. 250 ppl.
 

mousermerf

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Maybe she doesn't realize that capacity has nothing to do with the physical number of vehicle on an omnimover or maybe you misinterpeted her concern?

At 112/250 for total ride occupancy (sounds reasonable) there's just under 2.5 people per vehicle. That means it loads just like Haunted Mansion.

Since, it's an omnimover, there's never a gap - it's not as though you loaded the 112 vehicles and are waiting for one to come back like at Test Track or Living with the Land - they're connected. It's simply not as long of a ride as Haunted Mansion.

It should, however, have a nearly identicle capacity per hour. How many people are physically on it at any given moment will be decreased though.

They may be worried about having enough queue space, or maybe maxing out the pavilion's total capacity.
 

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