National Best Friends Day and to honor it Disneyland resort announced summer ticket sale at 40%

GiveMeTheMusic

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I doubt this has to do with Pixar fest issues only of its true that it’s not drawing in crowds.
If this had to do with just the Pixar fest effect then Disney would not have done the same for Florida.

It was also announced that annual pass holder blackouts for June have been lifted for WDW

WDW has its own massive problems, and they are totally separate from DLR’s. It’s a coincidence both resorts lifted AP blockouts this week, as both are having attendance problems for different reasons.

The purpose of Pixar Fest was to be a draw and boost, or at least hold up, attendance. It’s not doing that, so they’re getting desperate.
 

mickEblu

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WDW has its own massive problems, and they are totally separate from DLR’s. It’s a coincidence both resorts lifted AP blockouts this week, as both are having attendance problems for different reasons.

The purpose of Pixar Fest was to be a draw and boost, or at least hold up, attendance. It’s not doing that, so they’re getting desperate.

Just how high do they need to see attendance? I was there on Monday and it was very busy.
 

TP2000

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Just like Summer of Heroes last year, the resort is struggling to find a compelling summer event to get people in the gates at full price.

Because Disneyland Resort is two amusement parks side by side, and people go to amusement parks first and foremost to go on rides. The shows, parades, food, souvenirs, face painting, etc. are all little side dishes next to the main reason Americans have gone to amusement parks for the past 125 years; to go on fun rides.

An amusement park needs to add a new ride every couple years to pull people in. Techno remodels of existing rides and ride robots given politically correct new lines to say don't really count. You have to build new rides every couple years to get people really excited. And Disneyland hasn't had a new ride since 2005 (Buzz Lightyear, 13 years ago) and DCA hasn't had a new ride since 2012 (Cars Land, 6 years ago).

This isn't rocket science. An amusement park has to add a new ride every once in awhile to get people to come back.
 
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Curious Constance

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Because Disneyland Resort is two amusement parks side by side, and people go to amusement parks first and foremost to go on rides. The shows, parades, food, souvenirs, face painting, etc. are all little side dishes next to the main reason Americans have gone to amusement parks for the past 125 years; to go on fun rides.

An amusement park needs to add a new ride every couple years to pull people in. Techno remodels of existing rides and ride robots given politically correct new lines to say don't really count. You have to build new rides every couple years to get people really excited. And Disneyland hasn't had a new ride since 2005 (Buzz Lightyear, 13 years ago) and DCA hasn't had a new ride since 2012 (Cars Land, 6 years ago).

This isn't rocket science. An amusement park has to add a new ride every once in awhile to get people to come back.

Well said. And if you're pinning all of your hopes and dreams on the average adult, who makes the decisions on where to vacation and spend their entertainment money at, getting all excited about an existing ride that is now themed to a different movie, or existing fireworks and parades that now have clips and floats of a new movie or character, it just isn't reality. The only people that are going to be willing to make special trips for this kind of stuff are people who already have year round admission paid for, and the more often they come, the better the value they get. They need to learn to think beyond just appealing to a Disney fan.
 

Darkbeer1

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Well, Knott's is very happy with the response and increased ticket sells HangTime is bringing.

SFMM on the other hand understands the realities of Crazanity, and not expecting much of a boost. They do have high hopes for 2019, hopefully the word will come out in about 7 days what is going in the southwest corner ;)
 

PiratesMansion

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Maybe, just maybe, they'll learn something from all this. Probably not, but I can dream. WDW needs that knowledge badly; Magic Kingdom has been aggressively terrible today.
 

mickEblu

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Not doubting that their numbers may not be what they expect or want but I think if they were really low they would unblock the lower tier APs for some of July and August. Of course that might not go over too well with folks who paid for the higher tier APs.
 

sirstude

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My thought on this and I may be (probably am) wrong. My family (11 people, 3 generations) purchased a 6 day vacation package the first of the year, and we planned for the week of June 20th just because there were no California APs allowed at that time. First thing that happened is the opening of Pixar Pier was announced for the weekend, then the Friday night extra cost event. Now allowing California APs in with the guise of cheap tickets. We paid a bunch to stay in the park and have decent summer access to the park. Now looks like it will be as crazy as the last time we were there (new years 2014) We probably should have tried to wait to mid summer, but that would have caused some of the family to not be able to come. As usual, it appears to me that guests that only come every few years and pay full price don't count.
Just my opinion, but as an every 5 years or so visitor (who always stays on park property) since 1974 that is what it appears to me.

Doug
 

mickEblu

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My thought on this and I may be (probably am) wrong. My family (11 people, 3 generations) purchased a 6 day vacation package the first of the year, and we planned for the week of June 20th just because there were no California APs allowed at that time. First thing that happened is the opening of Pixar Pier was announced for the weekend, then the Friday night extra cost event. Now allowing California APs in with the guise of cheap tickets. We paid a bunch to stay in the park and have decent summer access to the park. Now looks like it will be as crazy as the last time we were there (new years 2014) We probably should have tried to wait to mid summer, but that would have caused some of the family to not be able to come. As usual, it appears to me that guests that only come every few years and pay full price don't count.
Just my opinion, but as an every 5 years or so visitor (who always stays on park property) since 1974 that is what it appears to me.

Doug

I feel bad that they lifted those blackouts especially since you planned your vacation around them. As an AP, I would feel the same way if they lifted So Cal blackouts in July as that was one of the bigger perks of buying a Signature pass. However, the notion that tourists spend more than annual passholders is false most of the time. Perhaps, this year you may spend more (and that’s even questionable if you exclude flights and are not staying on site) but over time annual passholders spend more on average.

Anyway, I hope you and your family have a good time. I would plan on getting to the parks early if you can and definitely utilizing Max Pass... especially if you re going to be park hopping. If you re doing one park per day it’s not as necessary but still helpful.
 
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sirstude

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Perhaps, this year you may spend more (and that’s even questionable if you exclude flights and are not staying on site) but over time annual pasholders spend more on average.

But you are missing exactly what I am saying, I AM paying to stay on the grounds and paying Disney for the flights also. I am competing with the lower tiers of APs that live within 50 miles or so (I think that is the requirement) that basically pays for a couple of days admittance and can go most any time they want and also get monthly payments on that cost. I also know from experience how much we will be spending while we are there. Remember we are captive, so we eat every meal at Disney, we only go every 5 years so must buy every souvenir possible (I know, self inflicted), and then on top of everything else, the recommendation is that we should go early. Makes me feel like a second class citizen, when those that get in cheap (in my opinion) can go enough that even if they only ride a couple of rides each time they are there, they get on every ride they want. We will probably get to ride every one we want, but will be forced to use fast pass, and possibly Max pass (another cost) to get it done. Mostly just venting, but the way that summer WAS set up seemed to slant things just a bit back to the vacation visitor.

I watch a guy that posts here on the Buzz Lightyear ride, when he goes to the park, he shows his scores and he has the top 10 or 15 scores on the ride so you know what he goes on. Say you get 50 people that do the same thing on that ride, makes it tough on the others to get on. If you get several hundred there that do the same thing on other rides, then throw in Fast Pass, the lines can get unmanageable. I have seen this happen to us on Space Mountain, where a group of 30 or so kids run out of the exit and dive in front of people as they walk up to the start of the line. Only a couple need to grab the place and the rest get in line with them as they get off the ride.

I am a Disneyland nut, first trip was when I was 21 but wanted to go from the first time I saw it on Wonderful World of Color, or whichever version Walt Disney presents I was watching back then. However I live in Montana and it is tough to manage to go more often than we do.

Bottom line, just a bit unhappy that all of our planning went for naught. And those of you that an AP works for, consider yourselves very lucky, and remember those of us that are not so fortunate (although I would not trade living here for existing in California for anything).
 

DanielBB8

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Well now then doesn't this fit right in nicely with the discussion on APs and their effects on the parks. :cool:

So this indicates that APs numbers are right in line with what Disney wants. Which is the ability to fill in days where attendance might be soft.

And for those that said Disney will never change blockout dates once they are published. Here is proof they can and will as needed to meet their daily attendance goals. Disney can giveth and can taketh away.
Just goes to show that AP crowding isn’t as bad as feared and the goal remains to pack in the crowds as much as possible. June is still the lull between the off and on season. Summer is getting shorter for most schools. Many schools end the year before Memorial holiday and return in mid-August. Some schools continue to end the year in mid-June and return in late August. So this means there’s no standard school schedule. Summer becomes 2.5 months instead of 3 months. No wonder June can be soft. August is already soft.
 

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