My wish for World Showcase

tazhughes

Member
The outpost is definitely one potential location and the other area is where the Millenium pavilion was (it currently is dead space). I would think that would be the first spot because they could utilize the existing structure.
 

tazhughes

Member
Originally posted by d-r
you all are missing the two most important criteria for considering a country for epcot, beer and food. Spain would be OK, but Russia? Borst and vodka? I don't think so. Egypt? No thank you. Australia? Shrimp on a barbie and fosters? Please. Better suited for animal kingdom if you ask me. Belgium and Thailand are the most needed countries, imho. Spain, Greece, and India round out the top 5 for me.


You obviously are not familiar with any of these countries cultures or cuisines and are basing your decision on the fact that you once ate at a thai restaurant. However I think Thailand would be a complete waste of space, like you say about Australia it would be better served in AK. I assume you were kidding about the beer thing as well since most of the countries represented serve very poor representations of their countries beer (ie. China, Italy, Japan...).
 

MartyMouse

New Member
World Showcase

I think the main problem I’m seeing here is people think there isn’t much to do in World Showcase, but in fact there is. See when you go to another country they don’t have rides and roller coasters running through town square, the attractions are the buildings, culture, music and people and in a way EPCOT has captured that in World Showcase. Instead of jumping on a boat or standing in a line - find the attraction in the architecture and the people who work there (they are from the represented countries).
 

DonaldDuck

Member
I definitely agree with MartyMouse. When I went to WDW this summer, my cousin and I spent 2 days in Epcot. One day for Future World and the other for WS. We took our time in the countries and didn't walk by ones without an attraction. We went in the Stave Church in Norway (which it seems most people ignore). And we also spent time wandering around the buildings of Morocco, which are actually quite interesting.

The reason lots of people ignore certain parts of WS is that they are looking for something like a thrill ride. If you take your time, you can have fun just exploring the different countries.
 

DouglasE

Well-Known Member
I think what is clearly evident is that World Showcase is in need of a new hook. It has been gradually losing attendance over the past few years. This is part of the reason why it doesn't open until 11 am.

I agree with some of the comments that have been made. If it were up to me, I would not include "rides". I would do as others have suggested have more live entertainment that is indigenous to the countries of the WS.

I think adding at least one new country would be a great idea. I'm all in favor of that. A South American country probably would be a good bet. Just imagine celebrating Carnivale in Rio every day!


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TURKEY

New Member
Originally posted by DouglasE
I think what is clearly evident is that World Showcase is in need of a new hook. It has been gradually losing attendance over the past few years. This is part of the reason why it doesn't open until 11 am.


Was WS ever open before 11:00? I don't remember it ever being open prior to that, but didn't pay much attention to it when I was a kid prior to working there.

Every park has been gradually losing attendance over the past few years. It's not just WS.
 
Every country ALREADY has live cultural entertainment in some form at various times thoughout the day. Every country should have a movie or ride representing that cultures historical and geographical characteristics such as Mexico and Norway. These in no way detract from the cultural experiences of the represented country. Instead, they only enhance it. What's wrong with movies, have you never seen China's and Canada's Circlevision or France's presentation---the music and film is awe inspiring! Plenty of room in between many countries---that's not a problem. As for Belgium and Thailand?????? What?????? How about Lichtienstein? :lol:
 

MartyMouse

New Member
Beauty and Majesty

A movie or a ride would add to the experience and I’ve been looking for a Mt. Fuji ride for years – but what I’m saying is that you don’t NEED the ride you should be able find enjoyment in the culture, we as a society are always looking for next big fix and that’s what has destroyed the EPCOT Center of old. When you ask someone about the Norway pavilion all the talk about is the ride – what about the artwork and design of the pavilion, it’s beautiful. EPCOT should be looking at how to improve a beauty and majesty of its pavilions not trying to come up with the next E-ticket ride to draw people away from Universal Studios.
 

DonaldDuck

Member
Re: Beauty and Majesty

Originally posted by MartyMouse
A movie or a ride would add to the experience and I’ve been looking for a Mt. Fuji ride for years


Some of the original plans for WS were to include a ride in Japan based on Mt. Fuji. It would have been like the Matterhorn.
 

SirNim

Well-Known Member
*ahem* We need Greece or Australia to be represented in WDW, either in WS or in AK. Thailand's a good bet for WS too, although Anadapur in AK sort of resembles a southeast Asian/Indian type of village and the architecture of Thailand might confuse some people with the pagoda of Japan.
 

bamboo7

Active Member
Originally posted by tazhughes
The outpost is definitely one potential location and the other area is where the Millenium pavilion was (it currently is dead space). I would think that would be the first spot because they could utilize the existing structure.

the outpost wouldn't really be an ideal place tp expand. there isnt much space back there, due to the boat work area and illumination barge area right behind it.

and believe it or not, the Millenium pavilion isn't dead space. it is now called 'World Showplace' and is used for a lot of special events and conventions. i had my college program graduation in there in august.

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d-r

New Member
Originally posted by tazhughes
You obviously are not familiar with any of these countries cultures or cuisines and are basing your decision on the fact that you once ate at a thai restaurant. However I think Thailand would be a complete waste of space, like you say about Australia it would be better served in AK. I assume you were kidding about the beer thing as well since most of the countries represented serve very poor representations of their countries beer (ie. China, Italy, Japan...).
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Actually, I've eaten at probably dozens of thai restaurants, though you are right I am not that familiar with those other cuisines because I don't think I've ever eaten at a russian or austrailian restaurant, go figure. I wonder why that is? Actually, I spent about 6 weeks earlier this year in Asia. Thai food is generally considered one of the world's great cuisines. And russian food? I'm sorry, but I didn't like your tone - YES, I WAS kidding that epcot pavillians are for food and beer. And while I would generally agree with you about the representations of the countries' beer (for example, Aass is a much better beer from Norway than Ringnes) I'm not sure what you think would be a better Japanese beer...Asahi super dry lol? If you know anything about beer at all, the least tiniest bit, you will understand why I said it would be nice to have a Belgian Pub. You "are obviously" basing your opinion on drinking a budwiser once. Good for you. If you don't understand that Thai food is some of the world's best, and that Belgium is without question the home of the world's best beer, I don't know what to tell you. Regards.
 

tazhughes

Member
Actually I have probably forgotten more about beer than you'll ever know, but that aside what would bringing thailand in do for the pavilion? Or Belgium for that matter? Bringing in places based on their food and beer is a waste World Showcase is not a food court. The look (ie architecture) is the most important thing and then secondary is the culture. What would be the great variation in a Belgium area from the Germany area? Their architecture and cultures are so closely related that the variation would not be worth the expense. Russian or Indian architecture and culture have such variation from anything that is currently there that they would enhance the visitor experience. If however you would like to add a country for beer purposes then add Holland with the windmill architecture and they could serve Grolsch though I fear they would serve amstell instead. And the Russian beer they would probably serve would be Stary Melnik though I think that would only be secondary to selling Vodka Martinis just like Mexico with selling the Margaritas. But if you insist that they add Belgium then as long as they carry Lindemans Lambics I would be fine with that.
 

d-r

New Member
Lindeman's is reason enough for a Belgium pavillian :) framboise, crik, peche, cassis...Chimay would be nice, too, Pirat, Trappist, La Chouf, etc., etc. it wouldn't even have to be a "pavillion" just a little nook between France and Germany. It would be great to get Belgian beer on property. Just like it would be GREAT to be able to get some thai food on property, or Indian food, or Greek food. They don't need Holland because you get heinkeken and amstel light all over the place on property ;)
 

MartyMouse

New Member
I’m sorry but I was under the impression that World Showcase was about the coming together of the nations of the world – not the consumption of alcohol. The original mission of World Showcase was to foster tolerance and under standing between all races and cultures not beer. Food and drink are only a small part of a country, not the qualifying factor.
 

Bayou_Tigerfan

New Member
I’m sorry but I was under the impression that World Showcase was about the coming together of the nations of the world – not the consumption of alcohol. The original mission of World Showcase was to foster tolerance and under standing between all races and cultures not beer. Food and drink are only a small part of a country, not the qualifying factor.

Yeah, I'm afraid some people have the World Showcase confused with Pleasure Island.
 

MJL

New Member
Originally posted by d-r
They don't need Holland because you get heinkeken and amstel light all over the place on property ;)

Yes, but perhaps you install a Disney-fied Centraal Station, Red Light District, and several fine selections of bud. :D
 

Mr.Nutz

Member
I think Holland would be a great addition to WS. Windmills would provide enough distinction to make it different from other geographically-close places such as Germany, and there could be a ride similar to the excellent Holland Experience in Amsterdam ( http://www.holland-experience.com ).

Or perhaps pedalling your own 'bicycles' around a track through fields of tulips.
 

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