My Review of the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train

Magicart87

Premium Member
Reopening 20,000 Leagues with new effects on par with the DisneySea ride would have been a better use of money. Possibly cheaper too.

20K was a longer ride than Little Mermaid and Dwarfs combined.
I still hold out hope that 20K will comeback in some form or fashion in DAK. Would be a great anchor attraction for the land formerly called Dinorama. 20K was the better attraction of Fantasyland. New Fantasyland's Little Mermaid is embarrassingly bad and Dwarfs is just too short on thrills and scenes. Most of New Fantasyland is a wash. The bulk of the entire land is comprised mainly of "filler" theming with rides that lack substance. It's sad when the queues, facades and theming are better than the land's attractions. Snow White's Scary Adventure was leaps and bounds better than the coaster.
 

Brad Bishop

Well-Known Member
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I still hold out hope that 20K will comeback in some form or fashion in DAK. Would be a great anchor attraction for the land formerly called Dinorama. 20K was the better attraction of Fantasyland. New Fantasyland's Little Mermaid is embarrassingly bad and Dwarfs is just too short on thrills and scenes. Most of New Fantasyland is a wash. The bulk of the entire land is comprised mainly of "filler" theming with rides that lack substance. It's sad when the queues, facades and theming are better than the land's attractions. Snow White's Scary Adventure was leaps and bounds better than the coaster.
Unfortunately, that's not likely to happen unless Disney comes out with a 20,000 Leagues blockbuster ($1B+ IP). They only know how to do four things now:
- live action remakes
- yet another Star Wars...
- yet another Marvel
- another can of animation. (to be fair, most animation sucks right now and it's all very formulaic - Disney used to do better, however).

Re: Swinging cars for 7DMT: The thing that really sucks is that this not working had already been figured out with inverted rides. The first inverted rides were swinging rides with a flat track (The Bat at Kings Island) and swinging cars and they placed too much stress on the track. That's how we ended up with fixed inverted rides (Batman at every Six Flags) with banked turns.

It's similar to how they originally did Luigi's at DCA: It was like the folks doing that had no idea of the whole floating saucers deal (failure) at Disneyland decades back. Nope. Let's just do it again...
 

Magicart87

Premium Member
Unfortunately, that's not likely to happen unless Disney comes out with a 20,000 Leagues blockbuster ($1B+ IP). They only know how to do four things now:
- live action remakes
- yet another Star Wars...
- yet another Marvel
- another can of animation. (to be fair, most animation sucks right now and it's all very formulaic - Disney used to do better, however).

Re: Swinging cars for 7DMT: The thing that really sucks is that this not working had already been figured out with inverted rides. The first inverted rides were swinging rides with a flat track (The Bat at Kings Island) and swinging cars and they placed too much stress on the track. That's how we ended up with fixed inverted rides (Batman at every Six Flags) with banked turns.

It's similar to how they originally did Luigi's at DCA: It was like the folks doing that had no idea of the whole floating saucers deal (failure) at Disneyland decades back. Nope. Let's just do it again...
Information's few and far between but at one point Disney was pursuing a reboot for 20K. See here: https://hnentertainment.co/exclusive-disneys-20000-leagues-under-the-sea-reboot-back-in-active-development/

Not sure now though.
 

ppete1975

Well-Known Member
The reviews are seemingly unanimous. Short, needs another darkride scene or two and a greater thrill element. But the general consensus on the functionality and design of the coaster cars hasn't been brought up.

Does anyone think the swaying vehicle design was a hindrance to the full potential of the ride experience? I've often wondered what could have been had the coaster vehicle been designed differently. Or if that feature actually contributed to the overall experience; better or worse.

Did they add anything to your riding experience? I've often wondered how Imagineering views this feature and if the results are what they intended. My review: The sway didn't add much and possibly made the experience worse.
you made me think of something I hadn't. what if it was an omnimover style ride or some kind of slow train or slow mine cart instead of a coaster... the ride would last longer make the dark portions last longer, enjoy the scenery.. yes it wouldn't be a coaster or thrill ride... but did it really need to be? Seems like parts of the ride were built to be a classic Disney ride but the coaster doesn't fit
 

Brad Bishop

Well-Known Member
you made me think of something I hadn't. what if it was an omnimover style ride or some kind of slow train or slow mine cart instead of a coaster... the ride would last longer make the dark portions last longer, enjoy the scenery.. yes it wouldn't be a coaster or thrill ride... but did it really need to be? Seems like parts of the ride were built to be a classic Disney ride but the coaster doesn't fit
The ride vehicle system from Imagination would work well with this type of ride. I'm thinking all indoors and it's ability to move at different speeds and even stop.
 

ppete1975

Well-Known Member
The ride vehicle system from Imagination would work well with this type of ride. I'm thinking all indoors and it's ability to move at different speeds and even stop.
I like the idea of the outside portions personally, although I could see being in the mines the whole time could def be cool. I think the dark portion could def be lengthened but id want some of the real world as well... of course its florida so if it moves too slow and its raining that does impact things.
 

Disney Crazed

Active Member
I actually enjoyed the Seven Dwarfs Mine Ride. Yeah it is not a thriller coaster ride but I like it lots more that Na'vi which I found boring. I thought the scenery was nice and cute and the ride was nice but nothing fantastic.
 
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