MOXOMUMD
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Walter yes. (Jeff Dunham's Walter.
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MuppetVision 3D closing for a month-long refurbishment in the summer
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Sped2424
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Whistling finale sound good?
mahnamahna101
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I'd prefer no Walter but I guess I'm overruled. Uncle Deadly on the other hand...
lebeau
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I would like a feature that will let me ignore certain forum members ONLY when a specific subject comes up. I don't want to put @Magenta Panther on ignore. But I would love to be able to ignore all the Muppet rants.
Sped2424
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I still don't know why he bothers each and every time, like I said it wouldn't be a Muppet's forum without him.
Fox&Hound
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I loooove the muppet movie at Hollywood Studios. Still, I would love to see Waldo go. Or give us a gun like Sweetums and let us take turns trying to destroy him. Like TSMM but better =) And I love the comment about IASW moved to Epcot. I never even thought of that. Cause it really fits thematically so much better there. And I agree that giving it the outside queue complete with topiary and water like in Disneyland would be. A great plus. Rode the Disneyland version and the Wdw version cannot even compare. It adds so much. I know this will never happen but it is such a good idea. Also agree that a tangled ride would be awesome there and make the bathrooms seem more connected. Would love if Wdw considered this.
willtravel
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Why the hate for Waldo?
Goofnut1980
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Everyone on here makes me laugh!
WDWFanDave
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So...has anyone been in after this refurb? (Has it reopened as planned?) If so, did they accomplish anything? Just curious.
Clamman73
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Pretty quiet about it so far...You'd think with an almost one month's work, there would be some news of the improvements
ToTBellHop
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They upgraded the vacuum effect so people's hats get sucked off as the vacation planning videos have suggested for the last 20 years. Statler and Waldorf got new shoes.
Mr Bill
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I saw MuppetVision on Wednesday afternoon. The video looks great, all of the effects were functional, plenty of bubbles at the right time during the show. Talking to a couple of CMs they said most of the work had been on the projection system and the AAs. The show hasn't really been changed in anyway, even the Kodak logos are still intact during the preshow.
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
All you need is a finger and a touch screen. Kinda like fast fowarding through annoying commercials.
The Visionary Soul
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I sure hope they worked on the AAs! I saw the Disneyland show recently, and those AAs are 1000 times better than their Florida counterparts. Specifically, the movement is much more apparent in California.
ToTBellHop
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Apparently they didn't give him any halibut.
Wilt Dasney
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The Muppets are great. Waldo sucks. They can change the show, as long as the franchise stays in some form.
There. Argument finished.
There. Argument finished.
AEfx
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It's a combination of things. Kind of like Jar Jar. It's not so much the character itself, but where it is, and how prominent it is.
Far, far too much of the movie is sans Muppets. I mean, I know someone has timed it out so I won't speculate, but out of the short film, a good portion of it doesn't have a Muppet in sight.
It's also the completely outdated concept. It's simply antiquated, the whole gimmick of a 3-D computer generated character. I'm a huge Muppet fan, I go to the film multiple times on a visit to the Studio usually, but I always kind of zone out on the long stretches of him going on about "3-----DDDDD!!" And it probably makes it confusing for kids who didn't know there ever wasn't 3-D animated characters, LOL.
Finally, it's the fact that it was meant to be the first baby step into creating really spectacular, E-ticket Muppet attractions. Had the Muppet Movie Ride been made, it would likely be to this day my favorite attraction at WDW. It's conflicting for me, because while it is the last Muppet project Henson worked on, and is pretty much a classic Disney attraction at this point (it's been around for two+ decades and is in multiple parks), but...it's just outdated, and wasn't intended to be there for 20+ years in the first place.
The truth is, if any property Disney owns SCREAMS for Animatronics, it's the Muppets. They already are tangible, real world objects - they just need to be animated by machine instead of person. Why did people get all uppity about "ice cream cone" Ariel? Because it's difficult to translate animated characters (even 3-D ones like Pixar have challenges) into real-world objects. I didn't mind her, but it was too abstract for many and even though I didn't mind her I didn't think she was optimal, either.
The Muppets, though, were BORN for that treatment - I mean, look at the limited ones we have in MuppetVision - they are the best part of the show. The problem is simply that there are far too few of them. There is so much that could be done with them, and without a lot of the costly development and design costs of original animatronic designs or translating humans or drawn/CG animated characters with more realistic movements. LOL, you wouldn't need fancy 2.0 AA's - if a Muppet had compliance it would be strange, ROFL.
So, that's a long way to answer the question - but yeah, that's why Waldo isn't usually high on most fan's Muppet rankings. ;-) Like Jar Jar, his slight annoyance wouldn't be so bad if he wasn't in something that had tremendous promise to be earth-shatteringly amazing yet spends way too much time focusing on something rather aside from the point.
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Sped2424
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Waldo is definitely supposed to be weird and creepy and way too much though that's part of the gag. Basically its the Muppets making fun of a lot of the original character hosts that Disney used (Think figment not that he is annoying but that's what they were kinda of parodying) back in the day. He is over the top and weird and even kids get that! If you hate him good! They did their job lol He is a gag not a character you are supposed to like!