DHS MuppetVision 3-D's Future: Potential Disney Park Venues and Vision Pro Immersive Experience

Agent H

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AVP is on its first generation, and the company has made it clear that their market for it right now is techies with cash to blow and developers. It's not a mass market device, but they want it to be. It will get cheaper and more readily available in time, and not a bad option to host MV3D on. It would be better than just throwing the film on Disney+, and certainly better than nothing.

No, and it's honestly kind of weird that some people do. You can not like the concept (it's tired and I'm sure the movie itself is not good) but I'm very happy that Mickey is now in the hands of people who can do whatever they want with him. By that nature I also have to be cool with bad Mickey horror movies existing.
I’m totally okay with fanfic and fan made projects . For me the thing is that this doesn’t seem like it was made by fans who genuinely love the character. It seems like it was made by someone who wanted to make fun of the character for the purpose of a meme. Kinda like that stupid Scooby-Doo show from a bit back.
 
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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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AVP is on its first generation, and the company has made it clear that their market for it right now is techies with cash to blow and developers. It's not a mass market device, but they want it to be. It will get cheaper and more readily available in time, and not a bad option to host MV3D on. It would be better than just throwing the film on Disney+, and certainly better than nothing.

No, and it's honestly kind of weird that some people do. You can not like the concept (it's tired and I'm sure the movie itself is not good) but I'm very happy that Mickey is now in the hands of people who can do whatever they want with him. By that nature I also have to be cool with bad Mickey horror movies existing.
I will say, while I do hate all these “public domain horror cash grab films”, I’m 100% okay with Mickey being public domain. Now that the initial excitement has worn off, anything that happens next will likely be of substantial effort and quality.

It would be hilarious if a studio was making a Mickey Mouse movie to release in 2028 for his 100th. I know Disney likely isn’t, or at least that’s what animators who work there are saying.
 

Agent H

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I will say, while I do hate all these “public domain horror cash grab films”, I’m 100% okay with Mickey being public domain. Now that the initial excitement has worn off, anything that happens next will likely be of substantial effort and quality.

It would be hilarious if a studio was making a Mickey Mouse movie to release in 2028 for his 100th. I know Disney likely isn’t, or at least that’s what animators who work there are saying.
Surely they’ll do something. Currently The only future Mickey Mouse project coming up is the Mickey Mouse clubhouse revival.
 

TheMaxRebo

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I’m still hoping that universal is planning to replace marvel superhero island and we could get a proper marvel land in this spot.

I think that would be great and probably best case scenario as gives them the most content to work with.

If they don't/can't get the rights, another option if the upcoming third movie does huge numbers could be Incredibles
 

TheMaxRebo

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It doesn’t cost Disney “that much” to operate many things they’ve cut for costs.

The timing seems to add up to make it a decent theory. But naturally I don’t know for sure.

If they didn't have two new pieces of entertainment coming - and those are opening before Muppets closes I think it would carry more weight that it was about primarily money.

I mean, obviously closing it does save a little of operational cost but they have to close it at some point and if $ was the primary factor it would have closed sooner and before the new entertainment was coming on line
 

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A small courtyard with these type of elements is the perfect final home for this film.
What's more, they could relocate existing elements from the current Muppet Courtyard. It'd be stupid easy (relatively) and next to nothing (by Disney standards) to develop this area into a serviceable land. Sure they'd have to redo MuppetVision 3-D, a minor financial hurdle, but not impossible. To that a modestly-themed splash-pad area, a few food trucks or kiosks and signage is peanuts for Disney. Comparatively, a smallish budget for the net gain of a fully-realized land.
 

rd805

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Can someone explain to me what elevates MV3D into a permanent fixture beyond every other entertainment experience?
It's a great question.... I was one that hoped they could do some sort of a refresh on the show while keeping Muppets there. They had a pretty big 'W' with the Muppet reboot (Amy Adams/Jason Segel), so I thought maybe updating some (or all) of the show to include Walter in some way would have been cool.

If they would have remade half of it, updated a few scenes -- it could have worked.

But truly you are right - if something new would attract a busier line / more people, you have to make the update to whatever will do that.
 

The Leader of the Club

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It's a great question.... I was one that hoped they could do some sort of a refresh on the show while keeping Muppets there. They had a pretty big 'W' with the Muppet reboot (Amy Adams/Jason Segel), so I thought maybe updating some (or all) of the show to include Walter in some way would have been cool.

If they would have remade half of it, updated a few scenes -- it could have worked.
The problem with updating this particular show is that it’s Jim Henson’s final project. Muppet fans would probably riot if any of it got cut. Every second is chock full of iconic moments and quotable lines.

Then you have the problem of making the new additions seamless. The muppets have all had new voices and new builds since 1991. Even if it’s not obvious in a bubble, it would be when put side by side with the same characters from 20 years prior. Even Gonzo, who has the same voice performer, sounds and looks noticeably different than he did in MV3D
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Even Gonzo, who has the same voice performer, sounds and looks noticeably different than he did in MV3D
Yeah - Gonzo has evolved more than many of the muppets who have had multiple voice performers over the years. Seeing David and Steve perform gonzo and Rizzo live was a life long dream made possible by D23!

I still want to see Frank Oz perform a muppet live but that may not happen haha.
 

erasure fan1

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Can someone explain to me what elevates MV3D into a permanent fixture beyond every other entertainment experience?

I understand rides being refreshed into permanency, but 35 years strikes me as well after its best before date.
Nothing really. It's Hensons final project with the Muppets is the big one. Also it's still extremely high quality aside from the Waldo special effect.
That’s not to say it’s bad, far from it. Nor that it’s top of the list of crusty WDW entertainment. But it’s kind of well overdue for a new film (which could have still been muppets). It seems the broader consensus is that even the film shouldn’t ever be changed.
The problem comes down to, would Disney be able to update it to something as good? And that answer is a resounding absolutely not. That's what has always made me not want them to change anything. Disney has never known what to do with the Muppets. The only things they've done that were really good are the Muppets and Muppets mayhem. And they wet the bed right after each.
Is that just because of Jim - or because they actually waited too long to redo it. None of this fanfare occurred out West.
I'd guess because it wasn't the last one at that point. I also think it has a larger significance to WDW as it's been around almost 20yrs longer.
 

Chef idea Mickey`=

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The only reason they’re closing Muppets is because they don’t want to have to build new brick buildings for Monstropolis. That’s it. They could have so much more space in the Animation Courtyard, but that would require building new buildings instead of just retrofitting old ones, and Disney wants to spend as little as possible.

What’re the odds the economic difficulties on the horizon cause Monstropolis to be downscaled or even cancelled, and we lost the Muppets for nothing?
Then why can't they keep Muppets 3D building only. Whatever would replace it Monsters Inc way will not succeed as Muppet 3D! Having one Muppet 3D attraction between Galaxy's Edge and Monster's Inc isn't killing immersion they already show to be okay keeping the 3D building exterior as it is..
 

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The Great Muppets Relocation Program

Muppets Landing:

-Muppet Studios Entryway 75K
-Food Truck/Kiosks 180K
-Splashpad 700K
-Signage/Paint 50K
-MuppetVision 3-D Relocation 40mm
- RnRC Retheme 10mm

PLUS a generous 40% buffer for land dev/personnel/ballooned costs/misc

Muppets Landing: ~75 million
(That's roughly 1/8th the cost of the Muppet Courtyard to Monstropolis conversion! )

So Disney...Why not both?

What's a little bit more on top of the already announced Rock 'n' Roller Coaster conversion to give the Muppet IP a final home, a land to call their own, one with a returned MV3D?
 
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