Muppets

[Matt_Black]

That last line is kind of a private joke. You wouldn't understand. Frankly I think both movies are below par.

Yes, but you DID say that you thought Tangled was beautifully animated, whereas Frozen's animation was on-par with the straight-to-DVD release the Secret of the Wings, ergo you did NOT think Frozen was a much better film than Tangled. Your honor and members of the jury, I have hereby proven that we cannot trust a word that Magenta Panther says as he has proven to be both unreliable, biased, and inaccurate. The prosecution rests!

 

[Magenta Panther]

Yes, but you DID say that you thought Tangled was beautifully animated, whereas Frozen's animation was on-par with the straight-to-DVD release the Secret of the Wings, ergo you did NOT think Frozen was a much better film than Tangled. Your honor and members of the jury, I have hereby proven that we cannot trust a word that Magenta Panther says as he has proven to be both unreliable, biased, and inaccurate. The prosecution rests!

As I said, that was a private joke between that other guy and me, that is, if he's the person I think he is. If so, what I said will probably make him blow a fuse. In the meantime, why don't you try

 

[Matt_Black]

As I said, that was a private joke between that other guy and me, that is, if he's the person I think he is. If so, what I said will probably make him blow a fuse. In the meantime, why don't you try

Your "joke" defense falls flat because jokes are, in fact, funny. The things you type are more often not funny. In closing...

 

[Brer Panther]

Isn't that the point? They realize but convince themselves of the wrong assumptions because of their own greed and desires? Gonzo says it best at the end of the film.

Gonzo: "Kermit, we convinced ourselves that evil frog was you, because he gave us what we thought we wanted"

I think the point is that they (at least some of them) do notice something weird, but they cover it up for their own selfish reasons, but at the end they come to appreciate what they have and how the people in your life are so important to you.

True. But that just makes the movie worse. If they knew someone had stolen their friend's identity and didn't do anything about it, they're pretty horrible people. And in the end they just get away scott-free with what they've done and are still treated as Kermit's "friends"? And nobody apologizes except for Walter, who actually tried to figure out what Constantine was up to?

 

[Matt_Black]

True. But that just makes the movie worse. If they knew someone had stolen their friend's identity and didn't do anything about it, they're pretty horrible people. And in the end they just get away scott-free with what they've done?

It's a family movie. If you recall, in The Princess and The Frog, Tiana was totally okay with setting up Naveen to marry Charlotte and the two of them would split the money, which you'll notice is nearly identical to the plan Dr. Facilier cooked up with Laurence. Or, in Beauty & The Beast, Gaston uses Maurice's freedom as a bargaining chip to try to win Belle's affections, which we saw The Beast do earlier in the film. The only difference is that The Beast was actually successful!

As long as there's some kind of acknowledgment of remorse or lesson learned, that's usually enough.

 

[FoozieBear]

Man, you gotta love @Magenta Panther's determination to stop by every thread that discusses Muppets and blurt out his useless nonsense and hate. You want some points, MP? You win for being this forum's biggest troll.

I mean, who even does that?? Best of luck to you MP as you continue to look for significance on the internet. If you enjoy your time going on fan websites and ruining the discussion for fans, you need to rethink your life.

 

[Matt_Black]

Hey, hey, hey! Don't go scaring off my comedic foil!

 

[FoozieBear]

Hey, hey, hey! Don't go scaring off my comedic foil!

You're right, we should keep him around. What would a Muppet thread be without our own version of Statler and Waldorf?

 

[Wikkler]

Yes, you're just perfect, aren't you?

 

[Magenta Panther]

Your "joke" defense falls flat because jokes are, in fact, funny.

Says the Muppet fan.

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[Magenta Panther]

Man, you gotta love @Magenta Panther's determination to stop by every thread that discusses Muppets and blurt out his useless nonsense and hate. You want some points, MP? You win for being this forum's biggest troll.

I mean, who even does that?? Best of luck to you MP as you continue to look for significance on the internet. If you enjoy your time going on fan websites and ruining the discussion for fans, you need to rethink your life.

Again with the dopey false accusations and characterizing truth as "hate". What a truly lame way to attempt to counter an argument.

But of course, what you're really saying is

 

[Magenta Panther]

Hey, hey, hey! Don't go scaring off my comedic foil!

Yeah, you attempt comedy, and I foil you every time.

 

[FoozieBear]

Oh, and because it helped kick the Muppets out of Disneyland.

Now I'm absolutely totally convinced that you are not obsessed with hating the Muppets.
Your only goal hanging around on this thread is to ruin good discussion amongst fans. I really do pity you.

I'll just wait here until you can find another lousy GIF to congratulate yourself with.

 

[Magenta Panther]

Now I'm absolutely totally convinced that you are not obsessed with hating the Muppets.
Your only goal hanging around on this thread is to ruin good discussion amongst fans. I really do pity you.

I'll just wait here until you can find another lousy GIF to congratulate yourself with.

And you say I need a life?

 

[FoozieBear]

And you say I need a life?

'Fraid so. We both came to this thread for two different reasons.

I came here to find good discussion about a great Disney franchise with other fans who share the same passion.
You came to crash the party and bash the franchise. The fact that you are even still sticking around just proves my point even further.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. @Brer Panther and I disagree on Muppets Most Wanted, but we have great discussion about it. I dislike different movies that are an unpopular opinion, but that doesn't mean I stop by in every thread saying "this movie sucks!"

I'm done here. I really am. I have better things to do with my time than argue with some troll who feels the need to crash every party because he doesn't agree with the franchise at hand.

 

[BaconPancakes]

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Waldorf said it best...

 

[Brer Panther]

It's a family movie. If you recall, in The Princess and The Frog, Tiana was totally okay with setting up Naveen to marry Charlotte and the two of them would split the money, which you'll notice is nearly identical to the plan Dr. Facilier cooked up with Laurence.

There's a trope for this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NotSoDifferent

Seriously, though, while I see your point, Tiana did get some "karma" in the form of suffering the same transformation as Naveen. The Muppets get away scott-free with essentially helping Constantine out with his scheme. The worst that happens is that Kermit calls out Walter and Fozzie for not noticing.

On a positive note, the new TV series coming out looks good.

 

[grim-grinning_toast]

Waldorf said it best...

-starts slow clap-

 

[WondersOfLife]

You put a lot of time and effort and, dare I say it, PASSION over a topic that you claim to have no stake in.

This was by far the best thing I've ever read on these forums.