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MSEP ending at Disneyland on Sept 1, WDW return in 2023?
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TTA94
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Not sure past posts are relevant anymore but I’ll bring these up again just in case, which makes things even more confusing lol.
Squishy
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Something like DCA's new parade would be perfect as it can run during the day & night. DHS's parade route is pretty small & then there is the issue of crowd control which operations would probably throw a fuss about.
TTA94
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I wouldn’t say DCAs new parade would be perfect for DHS lol… but a better quality parade that can run day and night yes absolutely would be perfect for DHS
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TarzanRocked99-
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Oh I know it ran that route, I’m just not aware of it running one way and then the other for the second performance. I performed in Spectro in the early 2000’s and the logistics of making that work are questionable. Spectromitch was a long parade, when it was staged behind Main Street it would run all the way back to close to the train crossing
EricsBiscuit
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I honestly don’t understand why park ops is complaining about a challenge. Wouldn’t they want their department to be more important? Moreover, isn’t it their job to figure out how to operate the parks? If they keep complaining then whoever is in charge should be terminated for incompetence. Find someone else.
ToTBellHop
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I think they think they call the shots and were finally put in their place on this.
Squishy
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I wonder if its a issue of WDW not wanting to pay to staff more people todo crowd control.
Nature of the beast... that is, humanity. No one want more work or more complicated work. If it were up to Ops, I'm sure they'd be happy with a 'dead' park every day.
On top of that, when attendance was mostly unrestricted, crowd control becomes unbearable and nearly unworkable. When the hub is absolutely packed with people for the fireworks, Ops has to keep walkways open for safety, otherwise someone with a medical emergency (or a fist fight breaks out) can't get the attention they need from first responders.
I've been trapped in the "you can't stand here so keep moving" walkways unable to get into the crowd at the hub and being constantly pushed along until I either find myself exiting the park or in front of Speedway.
Ops don't want to deal with that. Especially when fireworks and a parade or a castle show are back to back. It's just untenable.
That is why reservations and dated day-tickets are sticking around. To keep those types of crowds happening.
When people think back to the days when they were able to have fireworks and a night parade, they're remembering when there were literally 10 thousand less people in the park at that time.
Now, this is when people complain that Disney didn't increase capacity as they should have. And this is where I point out that extra *ride capacity* doesn't do anything for extra *hub capacity* for the fireworks and parades. In fact, building more rides in MK is going to bite them on the backside because the infrastructure is already maxed out.... unless they hold the line with reservations and dated day-tickets, which will only beget more customer moaning at being locked out of the park on the days they want to go.
EricsBiscuit
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That’s where they have to realize that attracting bigger crowds (and higher spending crowds) means they need to up their staffing.
ToTBellHop
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One human in that augmented Hulk AA thing could control a large crowd. Make a Thanos.
I don’t think crowd control for parades is as big of a deal as end-of-night fireworks. There are two things that could be done which would help that, but it’s too radical to even consider. 
doctornick
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The simple solution to Hub crowding is to offer more showings. Longer hours, run a light parade and fireworks each twice if need be.
I'm sorry but look at DL! When PTN opened in 2015, and MSEP after.....DL went back to the schedule they used since 1992 when F! Opened and fit into DL.s Nighttime Plans.
Going back to MK's Old Schedule is not rocket science! It's still in place on Party Nights.
The Fact that MK CMs are afraid of the old Schedule is a Little Concerning!
Hopefully Someone that knows all of MK's History is in charge Now!
Going back to MK's Old Schedule is not rocket science! It's still in place on Party Nights.
The Fact that MK CMs are afraid of the old Schedule is a Little Concerning!
Hopefully Someone that knows all of MK's History is in charge Now!
This is all you need to know:
"We've been aware of Universal's plans for a new park for more than a decade. And we have a sophisticated approach to analyzing the needs of all of our businesses and strategically deploying capital." - Bob Iger
I'm sure next week they'll announce the dates for MNSSHP, with prices as low as $119/person (select dates)!
I'm shocked MNSSHP and/or HHN didn't play into Halfway To Halloween this week!