NateD1226
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Summer 2022. Q4 runs through July-September of a year. Still, like you said, a very large postponement.
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Ms. Marvel TV Series in the Works for Disney+
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Well, the Marvels movie was also moved back to Feb 17, 2023.
Ghost93
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Yeah, supposedly Ms. Marvel is going to tie heavily into the Marvels, where Kammala Khan will be one of the three major characters (along with Captain Marvel and Monica Rambeau). So if the two projects are heavily linked they probably want Ms Marvel to come shortly before The Marvels.
Ghost93
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It seems like they've adapted the tone of the Ms. Marvel comics and the characterization of Kamala Khan pretty well. It seems like they've made some changes to her powers, giving her this bluish energy that wasn't there in the comics.
Overall, I'm pretty excited about the show. I like the tone that they are going for. I am very worried, however, that the lead actress will be subjected to racist and Islamophobic harassment by the uglier side of the fandom. I've already seen some on Twitter calling the show "woke" in a derogatory way and I really hope people just let fans of Ms. Marvel enjoy it without feeling the need to be mean-spirited and hateful.
Jedijax719
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This truly looks like a Disney channel show. Gonna be interesting to see how this transitions to Captain Marvel 2.
I don't know the comic books, but I'm familiar with Ms. Marvel from the animated series, and I hate her character on the animated series because:
The trailer seems to ameliorate those problems to a more realistic level. Less wimpery. Clearly defined powerset that explains how she can superhero in a world with guns (and keep up with the other powered heroes). And scarf ends that are short and narrow that would seem to be torn off before they can be used against her.
Cue the "fans" who will complain loudly and often that they ruined her stretchy abilities. The same ones who would still hate the movie even if the powerset was comic-accurate.
- She's such a wimpering fangirl. She's a stand-in for the young audience in a crazy in-your-face way.
- Her powerset is undefined: just how stretchy is she? Does big fists come with extra strength or invulnerability? Can they stop bullets?
- Her scarves are ridiculously large... any foe could grab them for leverage (well... a lot of capes in the comics fall in that same category).
The trailer seems to ameliorate those problems to a more realistic level. Less wimpery. Clearly defined powerset that explains how she can superhero in a world with guns (and keep up with the other powered heroes). And scarf ends that are short and narrow that would seem to be torn off before they can be used against her.
Cue the "fans" who will complain loudly and often that they ruined her stretchy abilities. The same ones who would still hate the movie even if the powerset was comic-accurate.
CaptainAmerica
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Thanks I hate it.
Disney Irish
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Looks good, and I like the use of the Weeknd's Blinding Lights here.
erasure fan1
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This is the first MCU project I have zero interest in after seeing the trailer. It just doesn't do anything for me. With that said, I don't think it was made for me anyway.
MarvelCharacterNerd
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I'm not happy they changed her power origins but I like the tone of the trailer and think it looks cute.
Then again, nerdy aspirational cosplaying fan with big crushes pretty squarely hits my wheelhouse. lol
Then again, nerdy aspirational cosplaying fan with big crushes pretty squarely hits my wheelhouse. lol
LSLS
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Honestly I'm more upset that I was dumb enough not to see it coming. Of course they want nothing to do with inhumans
MarvelCharacterNerd
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Especially if they're going to relaunch X-Men. They probably think it's too confusing trying to reintroduce two separate groups with super powers, plus deal with the Mist, etc. Especially after trying to explain the Eternals in just one film.
But I'm one of the very, very few who didn't hate the Inhumans TV show for two reasons - Lockjaw was terrific
and the second I saw him onscreen, I knew Anson Mount was a STAR. Very happy the Star Trek franchise scooped him up and gave him an utterly perfect role to inhabit. With dialogue. lolI didn't even mind they had Game of Thrones bad guy playing Loki in the show. I mean... playing the jealous wicked brother of the king. Oh wait...
Jedijax719
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I wonder if they will be moving The Marvels (Captain Marvel sequel) up from February 2023 to November 2023 since they will have Ms. Marvel out of the way so early.
Screamface
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I don't know what I think. My main reaction is that it just looks like it's aimed at a much younger audience than adult me. Which there is nothing wrong with.
I find the weird animated graphics just cringe and cliche at this stage.
I get the vibe her motivation is more to be a famous superhero over actually doing good and helping people. Which fits with the younger want to be tiktok famous generation.
I personally don't understand the weirdness of the identity politics mindset. Great, cast someone that isn't a supermodel in a role! Yet then objectify a male model. I just don't get it. It's inconsistent.
Then the whole on the nose, "but a brown girl from Jersey can't." I personally feel the Hollywood approach to empowering and fighting against the notion of "white privilege" is actually reinforcing it. At what point is this telling people they can't achieve? To me, it reads like a girl saying she can't be a hero because of her identity. Then a magical bracelet that doesn't exist means she cans.
This seems to actively go against the empowering message they are telling us they want this to be. It's disempowering.
Is that the shot of a Bollywood number in this? Why does everything with anyone with ancestry from that part of the world is US media have to have that?
The line about figuring out her future before lunch signals it's going to fall down the typical young adult novel cliche that destroyed that genre. "Young female is unsure about what the future holds and what she's supposed to do. Then one day finds out their special for no particular reason. Unrelated from any effort or achievement they have done. Is reluctant but everyone already see's them as a hero and they then end up being one. Saving the day."
I find the weird animated graphics just cringe and cliche at this stage.
I get the vibe her motivation is more to be a famous superhero over actually doing good and helping people. Which fits with the younger want to be tiktok famous generation.
I personally don't understand the weirdness of the identity politics mindset. Great, cast someone that isn't a supermodel in a role! Yet then objectify a male model. I just don't get it. It's inconsistent.
Then the whole on the nose, "but a brown girl from Jersey can't." I personally feel the Hollywood approach to empowering and fighting against the notion of "white privilege" is actually reinforcing it. At what point is this telling people they can't achieve? To me, it reads like a girl saying she can't be a hero because of her identity. Then a magical bracelet that doesn't exist means she cans.
This seems to actively go against the empowering message they are telling us they want this to be. It's disempowering.
Is that the shot of a Bollywood number in this? Why does everything with anyone with ancestry from that part of the world is US media have to have that?
The line about figuring out her future before lunch signals it's going to fall down the typical young adult novel cliche that destroyed that genre. "Young female is unsure about what the future holds and what she's supposed to do. Then one day finds out their special for no particular reason. Unrelated from any effort or achievement they have done. Is reluctant but everyone already see's them as a hero and they then end up being one. Saving the day."
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Casper Gutman
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What DO you like about Marvel, "CaptainAmerica?"
And I find a lot of the reactions puzzling considering how much this interpretation of the character is in the same vein as MCU Spidey. I mean, if you don't like fanboys and girls, Spidey's relationship with Iron Man must have really upset you.
CaptainAmerica
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Pretty much everything except this.
The trailer gives me a TV-Y vibe. It goes beyond juvenile and feels flat-out like a kids show. I'd believe you if you told me this was destined for Disney Channel or Freeform.
Yeah, it seems Ms. Marvel will have a different tone than the other MCU movies. And that's fine with me. The MCU has avoided "super hero burnout" by delving into different genres.
Obviously, we wouldn't expect a Punisher level vibe of dark, gritty hyper-violence from a young teen coming-of-age story. If you want that, then check out The New Mutants.
So, it's going to be more attuned to the aesthetics of Y.A. fare. Which won't be for everyone. But it seems to be designed with the hope of reaching a new generation of fans.
Which is exactly what the comic book version of Ms. Marvel was doing.
Obviously, we wouldn't expect a Punisher level vibe of dark, gritty hyper-violence from a young teen coming-of-age story. If you want that, then check out The New Mutants.
So, it's going to be more attuned to the aesthetics of Y.A. fare. Which won't be for everyone. But it seems to be designed with the hope of reaching a new generation of fans.
Which is exactly what the comic book version of Ms. Marvel was doing.