wizards8507
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Ask me that in five years when nobody knows who "Ron Weasly" is.
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Most Comparable to Wizarding World?
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Ask me that in five years when nobody knows who "Ron Weasly" is.
NowInc
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WWoHP Is no slouch in the theming department, but (in my opinion) a disaster as far as crowd management goes. They knew it would be a popular spot, so why are all the shops cramped? Most of them are smaller than the average store at your every day shopping mall, with 100X the hourly traffic. To me, its all a package. You can make something look awesome, but if it frustrates you to get around there, it takes away from the whole experience.
That being said, in regards to "rival theming" at Disney, Tower of Terror or Haunted Mansion (tho no gift shop and only really an enhanced que and ride building) both get my vote. The feel of both areas set you up for the feel that they are trying to express, and give every amount of subtle detail that you see at WWoHP (tho in a smaller scale, understandably).
That being said, in regards to "rival theming" at Disney, Tower of Terror or Haunted Mansion (tho no gift shop and only really an enhanced que and ride building) both get my vote. The feel of both areas set you up for the feel that they are trying to express, and give every amount of subtle detail that you see at WWoHP (tho in a smaller scale, understandably).
SleepingMonk
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First movie was ten years ago, first book was thirteen years ago I think?
When is your five year plan going to kick in?
And of course they could always pull a Star Wars and release some horrible prequels just to squeeze every possible cent from the rubes.
wizards8507
Active Member
Right, and they're STILL being released. They'll drag it out as long as possible but they can't keep it "current" forever.
July 15, 2016 (give or take lol). Five years after Deathly Hallows 2 is released.
No need. Installments one through seven are sufficiently pulpy.
SleepingMonk
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That's the exact date they intend to bring in Lucas so he can add some CG comic relief to Potter the prequel, The Phantom Wizard and a New Clone Hogwart Hope.
You've clearly never seen the early plans for EPCOT. Each country was going to have an attraction that represented each country. Well executed enough, it still was a dream that fell short. The empty ride and show buildings behind Germany and Japan are proof of that.
J.K. Rowling insisted they be actual size, no bigger. As chaotic as pushing my cousin's wheelchair through there was, I can't deny, it made it feel like those shops were there for hundreds of years.
So? Ideas change, accept it. World Showcase isn't about rides now. Get over it. WS is my second favorite place at WDW. It's awesome and enjoyable every time I go.
...on a separate note, there was some talk about WWoHP sort of petering out over time, while I do agree that the hype will subside, the long term interest IMHO won't disappear. HP should be a long term franchise for Universal. That said, without expansion there just isn't enough at the current WWoHP to keep people coming back again and again for decades. Yes it's pretty, it has a cool ride, but come on, it's pretty dull, even for a self prescribed Potter fan like myself (yup, first day book release reader for the last four books of the series) there's only so many times you can look at the pretty houses and think Wow! After that, the theming just isn't enough and the entertainment value is low.
thelookingglass
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Even if the HP franchise does drop in popularity, how is this any different than any attraction Disney has built based on one of their franchises?
For example, they built a Monsters, Inc attraction years after the first (and only) movie came out, and nobody batted an eye because "its a Disney movie!"
Yep that is pretty much it. No question they did a great job of the area, but one ride and some very cramped stores does not create a long lasting experience that people will return for over and over. Expansion opportunities appear to be very difficult there also.
Oddysey
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When talking about the themeing in HP land I agree with you 100%. When talking about experiencing the Forbidden Journey ride and ride tech, FJ is vastly superior to any attraction on the Disney property (IMO).
wizards8507
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That's exactly my point and what Disney SHOULDN'T be doing. The top five rides at Walt Disney World are (arguably and in no particular order) Expedition Everest, Tower of Terror, Haunted Mansion, Splash Mountain, and Pirates of the Caribbean. Those are ALL original concepts (with the exception of Song of the South, which virtually nobody has seen). Two of them are ATTRACTIONS that actually inspired FILMS, not the other way around.
If you're going to build an attraction around a media franchise, it has to be able to sustain itself. Peter Pan's Flight, Dumbo, Spiderman, The Hulk, and others have been able to do that, regardless of the relative popularity of their respective brands. TRON would have made an amazing attraction, not because of TRONmania (which I acknowledge never existed), but because Light Cycles are freakin' awesome, regardless of whether a TRON movie ever existed in the first place. A 14-year old girl's obsession with Daniel Radcliffe is not as freakin' awesome (or timeless) as a Light Cycle.
I suppose a destined literary classic isn't timeless enough as well.
SleepingMonk
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Twilight Zone was a Disney concept?
Uncle Remus was more than a movie too ya know.
And the yeti......uhm....just a little older than Disney.
wizards8507
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You can't be serious. The literary canon isn't supposed to be accessible to those with a fourth grade reading level. I'm not saying it's wrong to ENJOY the books, but Harry Potter is a joke, particularly within its genre where Tolkien and Lewis stand as disapproving titans.
The Tower of Terror doesn't NEED the Twilight Zone for its success. I guarantee you that more people identify with the attraction than with the show.
Again, Uncle Remus has nothing to do with why Splash Mountain is so great. It stands alone, regardless of its ties to other works, legends, etc.
That's like saying "birds are older than Disney, so The Enchanted Tiki Room wasn't an original idea." Yes, the legend of the yeti existed, but there weren't seven books and eight movies called "Expedition Everest: Rise of the Yeti" that Disney purchased and made a land out of.
I'm assuming you haven't read the books.
wizards8507
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False. I've read them all (several times) and enjoyed them very much. The first one came out when I was in third grade and I read them throughout school, often going to the bookstore on opening night. That being said, "literary classics," they are not.
Crockett
Banned
I agree WWHP is amazing. The theming at WS, POTC, and HM (with new interactive queue) all remind me of WWHP, and up to par with each other, creativity-wise.
wizards8507
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Praising Disney's projects isn't too welcomed in these parts either, lol. I see more Disney bashing around here than anything.
Not that the OP or anyone else in this thread is Disney-bashing. I disagree with many of them but they've all been fair in their arguments.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
I would argue that your definition of "literary classic" may not be copacetic with mine, or the general public's. I believe that the Harry Potter heptalogy is in fact a classic. It has inspired the highest grossing franchise in film history, it is the best selling book series in history, it has been immortalized in the real world with WWoHP, and it has inspired generations of children to read. And the future is bright. I am 28, and I have an unopened box set just waiting on my future children, and I suspect I am not the only one.