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arko

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Corporate sponship has been part of WDW since the very beginning, and is pervasive throughout the parks
From Kodak picture spots , to sponsorship of rides and pavillons to themed McDonalds mini restaurants. Just look at any attraction, many have in the past and many still do have a big presented by X corporate sponsor label on them. Disney stores are filled with merchandise that relates to movies and TV shows that have no presence in the parks and has for years and years.

These are buses people.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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arko said:
Corporate sponship has been part of WDW since the very beginning, and is pervasive throughout the parks
From Kodak picture spots , to sponsorship of rides and pavillons to themed McDonalds mini restaurants. Just look at any attraction, many have in the past and many still do have a big presented by X corporate sponsor label on them. Disney stores are filled with merchandise that relates to movies and TV shows that have no presence in the parks and has for years and years.

These are buses people.
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Sponsorships were undertaken to finance larger goals and often incorporated into the show.
 
Disneyhead'71

Disneyhead'71

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The mental gymnastics that you "faithful" go through to justify every crass commercialistic move this company makes is astounding. This is plain bad show. Visual white noise. It is there, big as a billboard, to pummel your senses with their message. We, as a society, have gotten used to it in our daily lives and some of us seek out places without it for our vacation time. WDW was a more relaxing place before this mindset took over the place. Between ADRs, FP+, and the barrage real life banner ads, a WDW vacation is nothing less than relentlessly stressful.
 
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arko

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lazyboy97o said:
Sponsorships were undertaken to finance larger goals and often incorporated into the show.
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and how is this any different, its one division paying another division with a goal of increasing sales of Disney Infinity toys and increase the ratings of Agent carter on ABC. How is it any different than say a Dole Whip, which is clearly advertising for Dole right in the middle of the magic Kingdom and has been doing so for a long time.

the only way I could see this being any way an issue is if Disney put ads for Universal on their buses.
 
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arko

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Disneyhead'71 said:
The mental gymnastics that you "faithful" go through to justify every crass commercialistic move this company makes is astounding. This is plain bad show. Visual white noise. It is there, big as a billboard, to pummel your senses with their message. We, as a society, have gotten used to it in our daily lives and some of us seek out places without it for our vacation time. WDW was a more relaxing place before this mindset took over the place. Between ADRs, FP+, and the barrage real life banner ads, a WDW vacation is nothing less than relentlessly stressful.
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Tell you what I will meet you at the Casa de Frito's and we can visit the Chicken of the Seas Pirate ship, then we can have lunch at the Carnation Restaurant, and then we can go to the Poloroid camera center to get a picture taken, and maybe take a snapshot at a Kodak photo spot. And then we can head off to Epcot to have a Beverley at Ice Station Cool. Then maybe you will see that there has always been a huge corporate presence at every Disney Park from the Day Disneyland opened till today.

Understand I am not defending it simply showing you that this is nothing new and was nothing new when Walt was still alive.
 
Disneyhead'71

Disneyhead'71

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arko said:
Tell you what I will meet you at the Casa de Frito's and we can visit the Chicken of the Seas Pirate ship, then we can have lunch at the Carnation Restaurant, and then we can go to the Poloroid camera center to get a picture taken, and maybe take a snapshot at a Kodak photo spot. And then we can head off to Epcot to have a Beverley at Ice Station Cool. Then maybe you will see that there has always been a huge corporate presence at every Disney Park from the Day Disneyland opened till today.

Understand I am not defending it simply showing you that this is nothing new and was nothing new when Walt was still alive.
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Fully aware of Disney's history of corporate sponsorship. And Disney history of cross promotion, or as we called it in the '90s, "synergy", or as well call it today, multi-platform strategy. That still doesn't mean that this isn't a newer and rather pedestrian type of very loud white noise to come into the resort environment.
 
jakeman

jakeman

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Disneyhead'71 said:
The mental gymnastics that you "faithful" go through to justify every crass commercialistic move this company makes is astounding. This is plain bad show. Visual white noise. It is there, big as a billboard, to pummel your senses with their message. We, as a society, have gotten used to it in our daily lives and some of us seek out places without it for our vacation time. WDW was a more relaxing place before this mindset took over the place. Between ADRs, FP+, and the barrage real life banner ads, a WDW vacation is nothing less than relentlessly stressful.
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Oh come now...it probably takes about the same amount of effort as it does to keep finding new things to complain about at place that has disappointed you for years that you have no intention of returning to, yet can't stop obsessing over.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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You know it kind of makes one wonder how people can come close to having a good time in a place that was built for people to have a good time in, when they stay so totally rigid, unable to see that it all goes hand in hand.
A Disney park is looked upon by some as what the creator did on the eight day of creation. It's a theme park, it is a good one, it always was good. It might have been better at one point (totally debatable) but it still is a nice place to be and all one has to do to enjoy it is to stop making every little thing a crime against nature. Especially true when people don't bother to look up or acknowledge the actual history of the parks and not the idealized one.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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arko said:
and how is this any different, its one division paying another division with a goal of increasing sales of Disney Infinity toys and increase the ratings of Agent carter on ABC. How is it any different than say a Dole Whip, which is clearly advertising for Dole right in the middle of the magic Kingdom and has been doing so for a long time.

the only way I could see this being any way an issue is if Disney put ads for Universal on their buses.
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What creative goals are accomplished at Walt Disney World by selling the advertisement space?
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Goofyernmost said:
You know it kind of makes one wonder how people can come close to having a good time in a place that was built for people to have a good time in, when they stay so totally rigid, unable to see that it all goes hand in hand.
A Disney park is looked upon by some as what the creator did on the eight day of creation. It's a theme park, it is a good one, it always was good. It might have been better at one point (totally debatable) but it still is a nice place to be and all one has to do to enjoy it is to stop making every little thing a crime against nature. Especially true when people don't bother to look up or acknowledge the actual history of the parks and not the idealized one.
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People spend a lot of time and work on those stupid little things.
 
CaptainAmerica

CaptainAmerica

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lazyboy97o said:
A Resort with a cohesive image that stands in stark contrast to the visual clutter and chaos of the typical built environment.
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It's already a bus. It's not a "magical mystery bus." It's a plain bus. I don't see how a plain bus taking you from the savannas of Africa to Main Street, USA is a cohesive experience but a "Disney Infinity" bus performing the same task somehow breaks that cohesion.

In other words, this would be different if they were wrapping the ferry because the ferry is an experience in and of itself. The bus is a means to an end.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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CaptainAmerica said:
It's already a bus. It's not a "magical mystery bus." It's a plain bus. I don't see how a plain bus taking you from the savannas of Africa to Main Street, USA is a cohesive experience but a "Disney Infinity" bus performing the same task somehow breaks that cohesion.

In other words, this would be different if they were wrapping the ferry because the ferry is an experience in and of itself. The bus is a means to an end.
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A plain bus is neutral. A step below themed but still above a contradiction to the intended Resort experience.
 
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arko

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lazyboy97o said:
A Resort with a cohesive image that stands in stark contrast to the visual clutter and chaos of the typical built environment.
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Then I am not sure what theme park you are visiting, because these pervasive ads and in your face corporate sponsorships have been around since Walt opened Disneyland in 1955. In fact one could argue that there is much less in your face corporate presence today than there was 30 years ago. One can only imagine what the response would be if Peco's Bill was turned into a Casa de Fritos today.
 

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