More Wrapped Buses

[Figment2005]

The whole reason a county sized plot of land was purchased was to create a separation. It's the clutter and chaos of imagery that was avoided being brought in.

No, it was to remove the possibility of the outside world intruding on the parks sightlines. Its Walt Disney World, The Place Where Dreams Come True. Not where the outside world disappears.

 

[SnarkyMonkey]

It is not theming. Theming creates an experience. These are advertisements.

I agree that it is advertising. I guess I just don't have a problem with them advertising their own products, especially when the advertisements are so neat. I guess there are two sides to this. Some people think there shouldn't be any advertising in the parks and others don't mind it.

 

[James122]

I can understand people not wanting advertising in the parks, but the buses are not in the parks - they're on WDW property. So should there not be any advertisements at all within all 42-ish square miles of WDW?

That seems just slightly ridiculous.

 

[lazyboy97o]

No, it was to remove the possibility of the outside world intruding on the parks sightlines. Its Walt Disney World, The Place Where Dreams Come True. Not where the outside world disappears.

In the mid-1960s there were no parks. Just one after thought theme park intended to generate revenue. The land is a visual separation between how things are done and where they are done better.

I can understand people not wanting advertising in the parks, but the buses are not in the parks - they're on WDW property. So should there not be any advertisements at all within all 42-ish square miles of WDW?

That seems just slightly ridiculous.

Walt Disney World was about doing things better and different. Bus wraps do not do this. They do not create the feel of a cohesive Resort experience, the often lauded "bubble."

 

[Figment2005]

In the mid-1960s there were no parks. Just one after thought theme park intended to generate revenue. The land is a visual separation between how things are done and where they are done better.


Walt Disney World was about doing things better and different. Bus wraps do not do this. They do not create the feel of a cohesive Resort experience, the often lauded "bubble."

There is no bubble. Once again, the only things intended to separate the guests from the outside world were the parks. If it is supposed to be a bubble, then everyone should park off property and ride Disney only transportation to their destination. No cars and no outside busses.

 

[lazyboy97o]

There is no bubble. Once again, the only things intended to separate the guests from the outside world were the parks. If it is supposed to be a bubble, then everyone should park off property and ride Disney only transportation to their destination. No cars and no outside busses.

That was the original design! Everyone was supposed to park at the Transportation and Ticket Center, which is remote from the property edge. So we're the hotels. So was EPCOT where cars were relegated to a basement. So was the industrial park.

 

[wsmith1978]

Heck, as long as they're not all wrapped in DVC advertisements, I like them! You can ride a bus anywhere. Only in Disney World can you ride one with Mickey, Minnie, Donald, and the gang all over it.

 

[wsmith1978]

i actually think the agent carter one looks neat.


the bus theming doesn't really bother me.

Thank you. There are things worth complaining about, and then there's this.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Heck, as long as they're not all wrapped in DVC advertisements, I like them! You can ride a bus anywhere. Only in Disney World can you ride one with Mickey, Minnie, Donald, and the gang all over it.

Except that Walt Disney World is not the only place to ride a bus wrapped with Disney advertisements. A wrap also does not change the bus riding experience. It's visual clutter that does not create anything additional.

 

[Figment2005]

That was the original design! Everyone was supposed to park at the Transportation and Ticket Center, which is remote from the property edge. So we're the hotels. So was EPCOT where cars were relegated to a basement. So was the industrial park.

Your argument goes against your argument. The parks are the bubble, not the property. TTC, away from the park but on property. Your fighting so hard to make me seem wrong, but essentially proving me right.

 

[James122]

I've never actually been big on the whole 'disney bubble' thing, even though I know many others are. It's probably because I've always stayed off property during almost all of my visits. Seems to me like if you REALLY wanted to separate guests from the outside world, there'd be no TV or wi-fi in the hotels, as well as cell phone jammers deployed property-wide.

I joke, of course

 

[lazyboy97o]

Your argument goes against your argument. The parks are the bubble, not the property. TTC, away from the park but on property. Your fighting so hard to make me seem wrong, but essentially proving me right.

How am I proving you right? Everything was designed well inside the property lines. Why make EPCOT so remote if it wasn't supposed to be seperated from the surrounding area?

 

[RobBlock]

Your argument goes against your argument. The parks are the bubble, not the property. TTC, away from the park but on property. Your fighting so hard to make me seem wrong, but essentially proving me right.

No, and herein lies a lot of the problem with WDW fans and why we've gotten a dumbed down "park commando" experience. It used to be a resort. An all-encompassing resort with a multitude of experiences making it a vacation destination that also happened to include a theme park in addition to world class hotels, golf, boating, swimming, etc.

I go to a resort for that all encompassing experience. If I go to a Sandals resort, I expect the the restaurants, the beach, the rooms, the entertainment, to all be cohesive. Anything else is jarring and detracts from my vacation experience.

If I just want to go to a theme park and get in "the bubble" for a few hours, I can go someplace that doesn't charge "world class" prices for a less than world class experience.

The previous poster is correct, there is a reason why such a large plot of land was purchased, and it's not just so TWDC can buy busses.

 

[Figment2005]

No, and herein lies a lot of the problem with WDW fans and why we've gotten a dumbed down "park commando" experience. It used to be a resort. An all-encompassing resort with a multitude of experiences making it a vacation destination that also happened to include a theme park in addition to world class hotels, golf, boating, swimming, etc.

I go to a resort for that all encompassing experience. If I go to a Sandals resort, I expect the the restaurants, the beach, the rooms, the entertainment, to all be cohesive. Anything else is jarring and detracts from my vacation experience.

If I just want to go to a theme park and get in "the bubble" for a few hours, I can go someplace that doesn't charge "world class" prices for a less than world class experience.

The previous poster is correct, there is a reason why such a large plot of land was purchased, and it's not just so TWDC can buy busses.

A. Sandals isn't 46 square miles.
B. People do not stay offsite of Sandals and take transportation to get inside.
According to the Webster Dictionary, a resort is "a place where people go for vacations". Nowhere does it say a resort must be all one cohesive environment. The Walt Disney World Resort is, by definition, a single resort consisting of many smaller resorts. Each connected by public transportation.

 

[Figment2005]

How am I proving you right? Everything was designed well inside the property lines. Why make EPCOT so remote if it wasn't supposed to be seperated from the surrounding area?

Once again, EPCOT in its current incarnation is a theme park. When you enter the theme park, you leave the outside world. With the exception of some poorly placed hotels, Swan and Dolphin, the outside world is not obvious from anywhere in that park. The same can be said about Studios, Animal Kingdom, and especially Magic Kingdom. Once you leave the confines of the park, you are in a Disney stylized version of the real world until you enter one of their multiple other resort hotels or theme parks. At that point, once again, you leave reality.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Looks like Anycity, USA.

 

[NMBC1993]

I did notice both of the new buses on my way back from Typhoon Lagoon last week. While I have no opinion on the Disney Infinity bus, the Agent Carter one is very neat. Especially since I'm enjoying the show more than I thought I would (A HUGE improvement from Agents of Shield)!

 

[lazyboy97o]

Once again, EPCOT in its current incarnation is a theme park. When you enter the theme park, you leave the outside world. With the exception of some poorly placed hotels, Swan and Dolphin, the outside world is not obvious from anywhere in that park. The same can be said about Studios, Animal Kingdom, and especially Magic Kingdom. Once you leave the confines of the park, you are in a Disney stylized version of the real world until you enter one of their multiple other resort hotels or theme parks. At that point, once again, you leave reality.

The whole notion of a resort is that of a single destination. You're supposed to be at Walt Disney World, not a bunch of seperate places that happen to all be owned and mostly operated by The Walt Disney Company.

 

[Figment2005]

The whole notion of a resort is that of a single destination. You're supposed to be at Walt Disney World, not a bunch of seperate places that happen to all be owned and mostly operated by The Walt Disney Company.

No, that is your notion of a resort. The Grand Floridian is a resort, the Polynesian is a resort, Contemporary is a resort, etc. Each of those places, should you desire, can keep you entertained without leaving the premises. All of the deluxe hotels, could in a sense, be considered standalone resorts. The moderates and values however, not so much.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Looks like Anycity, USA.

I love bus wraps. It is one of the most creative things that I have witnessed for public consumption since, forever! The only down side that I can think of is that it is also an enormous distraction for other drivers sharing the road. Hopefully there are not to many serious accidents because of them.

Back on the subject. There are advertisements and there are promotional items. If you see that wrap on a public transportation vehicle it is an advertisement. If it is on a vehicle that stays within the confines of a resort that actually has the item to be seen, it is promotion. Since buses are utility and not part of the show then they are not part of the theme unless you consider that the wrap is promoting something in the resort, then they become quite relative and totally not offensive to me, just amusing.

P.S. Love the King Kong bus. That is so cool!