More closures confirmed for Disney's Hollywood Studios

[Andrew C]

I haven't visited the park in six years so not experienced it but that is a very very strange section, maybe it was intended for meet & greets or something?

Pretty sure that is stroller parking for enchanted tales with Belle

 

[peter11435]

I haven't visited the park in six years so not experienced it but that is a very very strange section, maybe it was intended for meet & greets or something?

It's the entrance to enchanted tales with Belle. The left side of the planter is stroller parking for the attraction, and the right side is the entrance/queue. In order to end up in that area one must walk past the marquee for the attraction.

 

[Brad Bishop]

It's the entrance to enchanted tales with Belle. The left side of the planter is stroller parking for the attraction, and the right side is the entrance/queue. In order to end up in that area one must walk past the marquee for the attraction.

It is and, as mentioned above, it can be stroller parking, too. As you travel down the path, because of the angle, it's really easy to find yourself over there, perhaps trying to scoot around some slow people, and find yourself trapped and having to backtrack.

 

[hopemax]

What percentage of guests pay $100 to get into Hollywood studios versus what percentage of guests have park hoppers or annual passes and so Hollywood studios as a park is just part of the package?

Well even a person with a 4 day, base ticket is paying $81 per day. A 4-day park hopper is $98.25 per day. A 5 day park hopper is also that $80 range. Trips of shorter length would have higher per day costs. While forum-participating Disney freaks and Brits usually enjoy longer WDW vacations, the rest of WDW's audience tops out at 4-5 days or shorter. So I think a lot more people are paying closer to that $100 a day mark than people think. Anyone suckered into buying a 3-day park hopper, hoping they can squeeze all 4 parks into a long weekend, is paying $115 per day.

 

[SirLink]

While I agree they're retheming, I believe Mako was built by a third party roller coaster builder, and they just received the pieces. All I'm getting at is maybe that'll occur with TSL, but most of TSL will probably be In-house built. I give Seaworld credit for surviving Blackfish, and for rejigging their business plan, but the retheming doesn't Paul in comparison to what's going to happen to HS, IMHO.

Em all coasters are built by third parties like Vekoma which Disney uses a lot....

 

[hopemax]

1994. Before RnR. The park was small but cohesive. That is the best it ever was. It's all been down hill from there. So the park has been on a 21 year slide into the current Disney's Crappy Studios Theme Park.

My first WDW visit was 1995, and when we left, I thought MGM was my favorite park. MK was a "bigger but emptier Disneyland" and Epcot should have been but even then I thought the attractions were "dumbed down." And I was all of 19 at the time. What I wouldn't give for those old attractions back. Superstar Television was a little old in the tooth (my Mom and I watched General Hospital and we still couldn't place the scene they used). But I really liked the Monster Sound Show, Indy, Muppets, Great Movie Ride, Mermaid and of course Tower of Terror.

 

[Chris82]

My first WDW visit was 1995, and when we left, I thought MGM was my favorite park. MK was a "bigger but emptier Disneyland" and Epcot should have been but even then I thought the attractions were "dumbed down." And I was all of 19 at the time. What I wouldn't give for those old attractions back. Superstar Television was a little old in the tooth (my Mom and I watched General Hospital and we still couldn't place the scene they used). But I really liked the Monster Sound Show, Indy, Muppets, Great Movie Ride, Mermaid and of course Tower of Terror.

Yeah, there was a time when MGM was my favorite park as well! There was something about it that seemed (to a kid) more grown-up, more intense, more thrilling, maybe even a little more threatening. The looming Tower of Terror was a big part of that, of course, but Catastrophe Canyon, Monster Sound Show, Indiana Jones, and the Alien portion of the Great Movie Ride helped a lot, too. Walking down Hollywood Boulevard toward the grand, slightly sinister-looking Chinese Theatre (that had aliens in it!), while grand orchestral movie scores swept us along - effective stuff when I was a kid!

A lot of this stuff is still there, of course, but pretty much all changes and additions since Rock n Roller Coaster have been in the direction of safer, more kid-friendly, more pablum experiences, so the effect has become increasingly watered down (I've also done it all so many times that the impact has waned). If Toy Story Mania is any indication, the demand is for safer, more kid-friendly experiences, not for more grotesque Monster Sound Shows, so I don't expect that trend to change.

Although, maybe the new Star Wars Land will help restore some of that old "threatening" vibe that made MGM so grand back in the day...

 

[Jon81uk]

My first WDW visit was 1995, and when we left, I thought MGM was my favorite park. MK was a "bigger but emptier Disneyland" and Epcot should have been but even then I thought the attractions were "dumbed down." And I was all of 19 at the time. What I wouldn't give for those old attractions back. Superstar Television was a little old in the tooth (my Mom and I watched General Hospital and we still couldn't place the scene they used). But I really liked the Monster Sound Show, Indy, Muppets, Great Movie Ride, Mermaid and of course Tower of Terror.

I still think a large part of the issue with the park is what hasn't changed. Other than Superstat TV and the Monsters show, everything else is still going, 20 years later. While some things are pretty timeless, other bits need to change more regularly.

 

[Goofyque']

I was just discussing this with my mother-can you imagine the poor, uninformed soul that decided while in Orlando on business to give one of the parks a visit, and went to HS based on 20 year-old memories, and then paid $100 to essentially see everything in ~4 hours? (at least one of which naturally spent waiting for Midway Mania)

A bit of schadenfreude, but I'd be so amused...

To be perfectly fair, if a person hasn't been to Studios in 20 years, there will be lots of things they things they haven't ever seen, including Rock n Roller Coaster.

 

[Timothy_Q]

Nevermind the countries are caricatures of their historic selves and people don't wear those costumes anymore. But let's argue about the situational inaccuracies of cartoon princesses - because that matters and ruins the experience of the cartoon countries. At WDW, no less!

World Showcase is about the heritage and culture of each country, not a "caricature" of them.
You can study the history of Norway as much as you want, and Frozen will never show up.
That's enough reason.

And yes, the other characters shouldn't be around WS either.
But that can change overnight if Disney wants to. It's not a "permanent" ride like Frozen.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

World Showcase is about the heritage and culture of each country, not a "caricature" of them.
You can study the history of Norway as much as you want, and Frozen will never show up.
That's enough reason.

And yes, the other characters shouldn't be around WS either.
But that can change overnight if Disney wants to. It's not a "permanent" ride like Frozen.

"Should" is purely a matter of opinion.

It's Disney World, not a museum, not an accurate representation of various countries. If Disney characters appeared in those countries in their movies, then IMO they certainly belong in that "country" at Walt Disney World, and yes, it will make the children more likely to be interested in the country.

There is no point in being a purist about that which has never been pure (the countries.)

 

[TP2000]

Forgive me if this is obviously placed somewhere I just haven't seen, but is there a map of all the things closed in DHS now?

I've skipped DHS entirely on my last two WDW visits so it's been years and I can't quite remember how all this closed stuff fits together.

Has anyone done a map of the current state of DHS?

 

[dstrawn9889]

let me google that for you....

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/destinations/hollywood-studios/

follow the link to the map or the printable version

 

[Timothy_Q]

"Should" is purely a matter of opinion.

It's Disney World, not a museum, not an accurate representation of various countries. If Disney characters appeared in those countries in their movies, then IMO they certainly belong in that "country" at Walt Disney World, and yes, it will make the children more likely to be interested in the country.

There is no point in being a purist about that which has never been pure (the countries.)

LOL

 

[Tony the Tigger]

LOL

Dismissed. Next.

 

[Rutt]

Well there is a Frozen Meet & Greet at MK as well as Frozen being in the Castle projection show and at DHS they have a Sing-a-long and had 2 summers of Frozen themed celebration. So Frozen has already been at both of those parks for over 2 years now.

And as mentioned previously, the sing along fits with the current theming of DHS. A dark ride is a while different beast.

 

[matt9112]

No but I have a feeling Earful tower is headed that way. Stands would be good for ROL construction at DAK.

would be cool if they put the tower into springs....didn't the concept art have a water tower anyway?

 

[matt9112]

OK, fine. You want expansion as in park boundaries being moved? You're getting that too. Star Wars Land is going into the parking lot and parking structures being built.

There's no denying "expansion". There will be much more to do in the park that people actually care about doing than before and that's the point. No one cared about the BLT anymore. No one cared about LMA. The SOA were just an empty walkway most of the year. It was all wasted space. You may not want to admit it, but it was.

i think you both have a good point....technically i see some expansion albeit small...and technically its mostly rebuilding on top of old space (think mermaid) however the numerous park-wide small changes are "plussing" hell i would throw star bucks into that same vein even. but in the grand scheme of things i think @raven point is more valid....the parks overall haven't grown much but attendance is doing back flips year over year...things like MK hub redo and NFL sure help but true expansion is also needed.

"it should be a two pronged approach"
A. plus and rebuild aka keep fresh and maximize capacity.
B. expand and add new raw capacity.

 

[matt9112]

I have found the Ingore User feature on these boards to be of great value in keeping my blood pressure down, and limiting the arguing in which I might otherwise have been engaged. It also prevents a lot of...

i find simply not caring works just as well and is easier =)

 

[matt9112]

The Frozen ride does not fit any better thematically in DHS.

technically it dosent fit anywhere except fantasy land and well....that ship sailed...so i would rather it go somewhere with a new ride system as its own attraction instead of piggybacking off of a ride system from the 80s with capacity that will be outstripped 365 days a year....when the switchbacks wrap all over norway people better not complain.