Morbid Curiosity- deaths at walt disney world totals

thomas998

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I'm having trouble finding any numbers on this but I'm just curious. I'm not talking about "accidents" or crazy events, just the totals. I can't believe there aren't issues with heart attacks, heat stroke, etc. or just old people dying in their sleep. What are the actual numbers? I would imagine that heat related issues are more prevalent in July and August, so what are the numbers for real?
Lots of people that die of heart attacks don't get officially pronounced dead at the place where they have the heart attack. Lots of those people get put into an ambulance, sometimes declared dead on the way to hospital sometimes at the hospitals even though for all intents and purposes they might have suffered the deadly event at the place where they fell over.... so where would you say they really died? That will hold true for other major events as well... I think even the past few people that died after riding rides at Disney actually died in the hospital, even though they are said to have died at Disney. So you first need to clarify what does it mean to die at Disney?
 

Goofyernmost

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Oh , I agree, took my Dad a couple of years ago and had one of the biggest scares of my life. After Mission Space (green team), he fainted inside the Mexico Pavillion. His blood pressure went to the roof and we ended at the First Aid center of the park.

I guess at some point, the excitement, the mobs all the walking and the hot humid weather caught up with him.

So yeah, even healthy folks risk a health scare at Disney parks. Unfortunately.
Even healthy folks risk a health scare anywhere, anyplace, anytime. Funny thing about that stuff, there is no printed script to let us know.
A lot of people die after they are taken from property to a hospital, and die there. Or on the way. So there may be deaths while on a WDW vacation, but not necessarily in WDW itself.
Only Doctors can "declare" a person as dead. Para-medics are there to try whatever they can to revive the individual on the way to the hospital. Once there, a doctor will declare that individual as dead. So even though they might be, in the words of the Munchkins.... "not only merely dead, but, really most sincerely dead". They will be declared dead on arrival. That's the rule for people with unseen reasons for their demise. However, if it is an accident and/or obvious then they are quite dead at the scene, however, I think that a coroner must be called in before the body is moved and declared dead before removal. At least, it is like that in some states. Florida being pretty much a "wacko" state, might have other procedures.
 

Raineman

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I saw that article too, but it seemed way too small. I mean, 50-100,000 people a day, walking 12 miles and in the summer, 95 degree weather, I can't believe they don't have a lot more non accident related deaths. When we go to disney, we actually prepare by going on actual 3-4 hour hikes to build up our leg strength, I don't think most folks do that and I have to believe there are a bigger number of folks that get in trouble from over-exertion.
I am in my mid-40s, with a minor heart condition, and I can safely say that I've never to this point felt like the heat and exhaustion have started to affect me. Having said that, after 3 days in the parks, the soles of my feet start feeling like they are going to explode.
 

donnylambb

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I told my family if I die just prop me up with a pair of sunglasses put me in a wheelchair and name it weekend at Bernies part three. I wouldn't want to stop them from having fun!
 

The Mom

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Premium Member
Even healthy folks risk a health scare anywhere, anyplace, anytime. Funny thing about that stuff, there is no printed script to let us know.

Only Doctors can "declare" a person as dead. Para-medics are there to try whatever they can to revive the individual on the way to the hospital. Once there, a doctor will declare that individual as dead. So even though they might be, in the words of the Munchkins.... "not only merely dead, but, really most sincerely dead". They will be declared dead on arrival. That's the rule for people with unseen reasons for their demise. However, if it is an accident and/or obvious then they are quite dead at the scene, however, I think that a coroner must be called in before the body is moved and declared dead before removal. At least, it is like that in some states. Florida being pretty much a "wacko" state, might have other procedures.

Mostly true. But I "declared" my mother dead, and contacted the funeral home and her doctor. However, she was expected to die, was under hospice care, and a physician still had to sign the Death Certificate.

Nurses in hospitals and nursing homes routinely "declare" someone dead, but a doctor still has to be notified, and still is the only one who can sign the death certificate.
 

Goofyernmost

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Mostly true. But I "declared" my mother dead, and contacted the funeral home and her doctor. However, she was expected to die, was under hospice care, and a physician still had to sign the Death Certificate.

Nurses in hospitals and nursing homes routinely "declare" someone dead, but a doctor still has to be notified, and still is the only one who can sign the death certificate.
And then, I think, the doctor has to indicate the location of death. It isn't official until they sign the certificate. In the cases like you said, old age, terminal illness and other obvious thing they will just assume that these people are dead. They did the same thing with my mother, but, she was terminal as well. My father who had an sudden massive heart attack at home was declared dead on arrival at the hospital. That said, I think that some unexpected death needs to be verified and determined if an Autopsy is necessary by a member of the medical profession that is authorized to sign the certificate. In a place like Disney, where they do not necessarily have Doctors on staff, the para-medics, I'm sure are capable of declaring a person dead, but, I'm not sure it would be in there best interest to do so. The long and short of it, in spite of them knowing will transport the body to the nearest Hospital where they will officially be declared dead. That saves a place like Disney from having a theme park labeled as "place of death". At my age.. all this talk about death is bumming me out, so let's just say, we all gotta go sometime and forget about it. 🙂
 

thomas998

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Even healthy folks risk a health scare anywhere, anyplace, anytime. Funny thing about that stuff, there is no printed script to let us know.

Only Doctors can "declare" a person as dead. Para-medics are there to try whatever they can to revive the individual on the way to the hospital. Once there, a doctor will declare that individual as dead. So even though they might be, in the words of the Munchkins.... "not only merely dead, but, really most sincerely dead". They will be declared dead on arrival. That's the rule for people with unseen reasons for their demise. However, if it is an accident and/or obvious then they are quite dead at the scene, however, I think that a coroner must be called in before the body is moved and declared dead before removal. At least, it is like that in some states. Florida being pretty much a "wacko" state, might have other procedures.
I'm pretty sure the coroner has to be do the removal in accidents where it is clear there is no signs of life, only exception is when the body is in danger such as a fire. I know when the local police made these seat belt commercials with a policeman boldly proclaiming he never had to unbuckle a dead man, we would scoff because we all knew he wasn't allowed to move dead bodies only the coroner/medial examiner got that job.
 

unmitigated disaster

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I am in my mid-40s, with a minor heart condition, and I can safely say that I've never to this point felt like the heat and exhaustion have started to affect me. Having said that, after 3 days in the parks, the soles of my feet start feeling like they are going to explode.
Yeah, but there are plenty of people with major heart or lung or other issues who do get into trouble. And when it's very hot and humid, it can hit you like that.
 

Raineman

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Yeah, but there are plenty of people with major heart or lung or other issues who do get into trouble. And when it's very hot and humid, it can hit you like that.
I agree, but, TBH, if I, or most people. knew they had conditions like that, they wouldn’t spend all day walking around a theme park in 100 degree weather. It’s the unexpected health problems that cause the most issues at WDW, IMO.
 

unmitigated disaster

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I agree, but, TBH, if I, or most people. knew they had conditions like that, they wouldn’t spend all day walking around a theme park in 100 degree weather. It’s the unexpected health problems that cause the most issues at WDW, IMO.
I'm not sure it's that simple. People will ignore doctor's orders (one of my former neighbors smoked like a chimney even after being put on oxygen), or will say "well, the doctor says it's okay as long as I take it easy" and don't factor in the heat and humidity. Every year here in Arizona people die in the heat while out hiking. And sometimes it's because they aren't as prepared as they should be, or go out during the heat of the day. And sometimes it because of the sunken cost fallacy. "It's only another ____ miles. I've made it this far; I can make the rest safely and back since I've already come this far."
 

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