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DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

peter11435

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I'm honestly not buying that you thought construction would begin so quickly.
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I was clear in multiple posts that visible construction would start BECAUSE the area was closed. I was also clear in multiple posts that construction would start because it could not because it needed to. The post you’ve quoted here was referencing specific work that many were already acting like was active construction work when it most certainly was not.
 

Casper Gutman

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Another narrow minded view is to only assume this is the only project they have underway. But since you all know the plans and timeline, please share.
Since you’ve begun insulting other posters, I’ll point out you consistently refuse to acknowledge what other posters say to you, intentionally misrepresent their comments, and dodge and weave when anyone tries to pin you down to a falsifiable claim regarding when the Muppets replacement will open. These are not hallmarks of a good faith argument.
 

mattpeto

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Since you’ve begun insulting other posters, I’ll point out you consistently refuse to acknowledge what other posters say to you, intentionally misrepresent their comments, and dodge and weave when anyone tries to pin you down to a falsifiable claim regarding when the Muppets replacement will open. These are not hallmarks of a good faith argument.
Feel free to report me if you think I'm making insults. You can also use the Ignore button if it pleases you.

I absolutely don't intentionally misrepresent their comments by reposting what they said "word for word".
 

SoFloMagic

Well-Known Member
Exactly. Ironically the Rise of the Resistance show building is closer to muppets than the Monsters Door Coaster building will be. Muppets didn’t need to close to build that.
Would they be able to clear demo material out of the courtyard once the coaster box is built? Im guessing they couldn't have pulled down the muppets store while the attraction was open
 

JD80

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Would they be able to clear demo material out of the courtyard once the coaster box is built? Im guessing they couldn't have pulled down the muppets store while the attraction was open

Extremely unlikely but they could be scheduling demo early because of labor availability now vs. later. Or it fits in now vs what they need to alot in later.

Lots of active construction going on.
 

GenChi

Well-Known Member
Also the only proper Disney ride is a slow dark ride.
So many of the Disney fans stereotypes on full display in these last couple of pages.
Not even the Disney purists believe that. Look at this forum voting for best rides and every coaster is top half besides Barnstormer, and largely outside the eternal classics only the coaster or coaster-esque rides remain. And these are the most traditional fans.

No surprise they are building two more coasters shortly after opening two others. They are the most popular marquee ride format at every amusement park, even in a family park like Disney with heavy themed dark rides that match up. If this is not rough and is half decent themed it will be very popular with just about everyone.
 

SoFloMagic

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Extremely unlikely but they could be scheduling demo early because of labor availability now vs. later. Or it fits in now vs what they need to alot in later.

Lots of active construction going on
I like this theory. Demo crews hit Muppets, then tom Sawyer, then dinosaur.

Or maybe they wanted to rush the closure and dismantling to shut everyone up.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Another narrow minded view is to only assume this is the only project they have underway.
They have another project slated to start soon that works against your claims. They’re not going to be closing Voyage of the Little Mermaid to rework the facade of the Animation Building and rebuild the courtyard.

Maybe they needed to do this work because of FY spending, it really could be anything is my point.
That’s the opposite of how things usually get done. But it couldn’t be anything. You only keep clinging to that because of your lack of familiarity with this type of work. You don’t know so nobody can know.

But at least the demo phase has been impressively brisk.
I’ll say it has been disappointingly brisk. A disassembly to recycle materials would have been some justification for a prolonged timeline.

Would they be able to clear demo material out of the courtyard once the coaster box is built? Im guessing they couldn't have pulled down the muppets store while the attraction was open
They pushed the coaster building further away… The perimeter road is pretty staying as a space they could have used. CommuniCore West was disassembled in the middle of an active park with peopl close by. The Streets of America were demolished. Galaxy’s Edge encroached right up onto the theater.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Would they be able to clear demo material out of the courtyard once the coaster box is built? Im guessing they couldn't have pulled down the muppets store while the attraction was open


Indeed. If for some reason the space between the new box and Grand Ave. was occluded, there is a double wide backstage road between the Coke Kiosk and Tattooine Traders. It's wide enough for fire trucks. Debris can be brought out that way at night, as well as bringing in new material.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
I like this theory. Demo crews hit Muppets, then tom Sawyer, then dinosaur.

Or maybe they wanted to rush the closure and dismantling to shut everyone up.
This is not how it works. The construction crews are not Disney employees or direct Disney sub-contractors. Each project has its own general contractor who is responsible for that project. Disney isn’t dictating to them to lend their employees or sub-contractors to another general contractor.
 

DreamfinderGuy

Well-Known Member
It’s just two different arguments I guess.

From the beginning, I’ve said they are closing the land because it will be unsafe after MV3D closes.

Other posters have been suggesting it’s all related to avoid paying operating costs to run MV3D.
It's entirely because they did not want to pay the operational costs for MV3D. Stage 1 demo could have easily been accomplished with MuppetVision still operational, there would have just been a different construction wall layout. Even if they couldn't demo Stage 1 while Muppets was open, that is not something that's integral to do right now for a project that doesn't open for another three years. The gravity building for the coaster hasn't even gone vertical yet and that is both the largest piece of the project and the one with no impact to the existing attraction.

There were ways to eek out more life from Muppets, at least an additional year. It's taking less than a year's turnaround for them to do a theatre retheme of a similar scope at Animal Kingdom. Willing to bet little to no work has occurred inside MV3D apart from removing props, and there probably won't be anything else happening in there for a good while.
 

AidenRodriguez731

Well-Known Member
It's entirely because they did not want to pay the operational costs for MV3D. Stage 1 demo could have easily been accomplished with MuppetVision still operational, there would have just been a different construction wall layout. Even if they couldn't demo Stage 1 while Muppets was open, that is not something that's integral to do right now for a project that doesn't open for another three years. The gravity building for the coaster hasn't even gone vertical yet and that is both the largest piece of the project and the one with no impact to the existing attraction.

There were ways to eke out more life from Muppets, at least an additional year. It's taking less than a year's turnaround for them to do a theatre retheme of a similar scope at Animal Kingdom. Willing to bet little to no work has occurred inside MV3D apart from removing props, and there probably won't be anything else happening in there for a good while.
Unless of course, they were planning on reusing some props from Muppetvision in the muppet coaster, then it makes sense to close early and refurbish those to have everything ready to just put in the building when they close RNRC
 

SoFloMagic

Well-Known Member
This is not how it works. The construction crews are not Disney employees or direct Disney sub-contractors. Each project has its own general contractor who is responsible for that project. Disney isn’t dictating to them to lend their employees or sub-contractors to another general contractor.
So then option 2. Close it so everyone shuts up about trying to save it
 

Agent H

Well-Known Member
They needed to announce the volume that they did. Probably just the choice of projects and especially where they landed was not what everyone really wanted.

The monster coaster was something 90% of the membership was begging for, over a decade though. And I acknowledge there are a few consistent voices who never were. But we got what the membership asked for on this one. Ironically, the Disneyland side is jealous of it, despite clearly having the superior investment package in terms of accessible dark rides that would be absolutely transformative for DHS if the shoes were reversed.

I think the imagined possibility is always better than reality.
For the record I don’t have a problem with the door coaster. It’s the placement i take issue with.
 

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