TrainsOfDisney
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Oh! I see that now. Couldn’t see behind all the rubble! Haha.
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DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios
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mattpeto
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peter11435
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Of course it’s not safe, it’s an active construction site. The point was that it doesn’t need to be an active construction site.
mattpeto
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But it is a construction zone. And I’m imagining you don’t have the project plan in front of you, and neither do I.
We don’t know the labor restrictions, budget or deliverables, but we now know the land is unsafe just - a month+ after the land closed.
They have several projects underway, and the simplicity to suggest it’s easy to keep it open is just pretty narrow minded.
Maybe they can’t reach their goal by starting a year later like you all assume?
All of these projects take time. Encanto show building hasn’t even gone vertical yet.
plutofan15
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And why is that? Can you please share the construction timeline and process?
peter11435
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Of course it’s a construction site. That has never been debated
You don’t need a construction plan to know that repurposing and rethemeing the courtyard won’t take anywhere near as long as turning a parking lot into the second largest show building on property complete with an operating e-ticket attraction.
Keeping the attraction open longer would not have been difficult or had any impact on the new attractions/lands development. We aren’t being narrow minded by dismissing your belief. We just know that it is not correct. Being reluctant to accept the obvious economic benefits of closing the muppets courtyard early and spreading out the construction costs over a longer duration is narrow minded.
Your comment regarding the Encanto show building is a data point in favor of why muppets could and should have stayed open longer.
peter11435
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Where did I ever assume or imply that this was the only project underway? I’m well aware of all the projects currently underway and then some.
It’s also not really relevant. And if we accept your premise that the courtyard will take longer than it should because of the volume of projects underway then it stands to reason that the door coaster project itself would also take even longer for this same reason. These are two projects with very different scopes and scales. They should not be operating on the same timelines.
Tropical Americas is a perfect example of how projects of different scopes can and should be staggered to maintain park capacity and attraction readiness.
mattpeto
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I just think the timeline to us all is mostly unknown. Maybe they needed to do this work because of FY spending, it really could be anything is my point. But the area is clearly unsafe, we all agree to that.
Can’t figure out why Mama Melrose closed a month earlier before the rest of the land. This is just a restaurant retheme. While it’s not as popular as other spots, can’t imagine it was taking a net loss overall.
Whatever position you favor here, it’s good that there was imminent work at Grand Avenue after MV3D closed.
Can’t figure out why Mama Melrose closed a month earlier before the rest of the land. This is just a restaurant retheme. While it’s not as popular as other spots, can’t imagine it was taking a net loss overall.
Whatever position you favor here, it’s good that there was imminent work at Grand Avenue after MV3D closed.
BrianLo
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Studio 1 coming down quickly isn’t a shocker per se. But I’m not entirely unconvinced a phased reopening is off the table.
This isn’t a prediction on my behalf, but that’s really what will determine if this rapid closure was necessary. We’ll see shortly if demo stagnates towards zero work. But at least the demo phase has been impressively brisk.
This isn’t a prediction on my behalf, but that’s really what will determine if this rapid closure was necessary. We’ll see shortly if demo stagnates towards zero work. But at least the demo phase has been impressively brisk.
mattpeto
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TheMaxRebo
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it's really hard to know all of the reasons why they are doing something in the order they are - could be financial, could be that they know once they start to work in one area it makes other areas unsafe, could just be that makes it a ton easier to work on it all at once and will reduce the final completion date .... or it could be they just wanted to rip the bandaid vs string people along
But it definitely is great to see whatever work they chose to do seems to be going fact and is active vs just walls up with no visible work going on
TheMaxRebo
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with how fast they seem to be going here and Tropical Americas not gone vertical yet and with delaying the closing of Dinosaur, wonder if maybe they think they can get this all done first
Hope we get a little more about timelines of the various projects at Destination D23
BrianLo
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I’ve always been a 2028 guy from the moment Josh said 5 years and Villains clearly was the 2029 project. Which somehow makes me even more optimistic than the initial Phil and Jason early predictions. I think we’ve seen enough now to zone in on first half of 2028 with very long odds on late 2027. Generally their coasters in a box can be expected in 30-36 months.
I dunno… just based on how all the pieces of DHS are falling into place… a rush to open the front half of the courtyard with all their other DHS 2026 projects somehow may not be an absurdist prediction to me.
Something is going on here that is very different than DAK’s approach and the ongoing frankly slew of things they keep dropping for DHS shows me hints of panic. Rather than purely hedging my bets all in on cost savings. I’d still give 2-1 odds on cost savings. I kind of figure like we’ll be more informed coming out of D23.
danlb_2000
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Why do you keep harping on the area being unsafe? That is totally irrelevant. If they decided to keep muppets open, then the area would have been safe. The ride building is far enough away that they could work on it without closing the courtyard. Disney has built things much closer to guest areas then this.
mattpeto
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It’s just two different arguments I guess.
From the beginning, I’ve said they are closing the land because it will be unsafe after MV3D closes.
Other posters have been suggesting it’s all related to avoid paying operating costs to run MV3D.
peter11435
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Exactly. Ironically the Rise of the Resistance show building is closer to muppets than the Monsters Door Coaster building will be. Muppets didn’t need to close to build that.
peter11435
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But it wouldn’t be unsafe if Muppets was still open.