DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

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James Alucobond

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Casper Gutman said:
It would be even more if they left Muppets and just added the dark ride without creating an entire, very low-effort “land.”
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For better or worse, isolated IP lands are clearly the route they're going with Hollywood Studios, and I'm kind of okay with that if it acts as a sort of containment zone for that trend. Tropical Americas and Villains are mercifully broader conceptually, and Cars, despite the poor integration into Frontierland, is not getting its own discretely named area.
 
ChewbaccaYourMum

ChewbaccaYourMum

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I'm not sure why the topic of WDW leaning towards coasters and no more dark rides with storytelling continues to come up in these forums over and over and over and over again... maybe because there's such a loud voice of posters spreading misinformation all the time, but......

Just looking back at the last ten years... WDW has given us:

6 Dark rides (Frozen, Na'vi river, Rise, Mickey, Remy, Tiana [is Tiana a dark or thrill? Not sure, but put it here] )
3 Simulation type rides (Soarin' Around the World, Flight of Passage, Smuggler's Run)
3 Coasters (Slinky, Tron, Cosmic Rewind [which is WDW dipping their toes into coaster/dark/storytelling] )

And based on what's coming the next 5 years we have announced:
4 Dark rides (rumored Villains dark ride, Indy, Encanto, Test Track 3.0 [is Test Track a dark or thrill? Not sure, but put it here] )
2 Coasters (Monsters door, and rumored Villains Coaster [I hope Disney goes all in on coaster/dark ride/storytelling here] )
And whatever you consider those 2 Cars rides to be, but they are definitely not coasters.

Disney World is not leaning towards coasters. They are still opening a healthy amount of Dark rides.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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Jrb1979 said:
It's the one thing I don't get. It feels like half the new attractions they announce is either a coaster or has some thrill to it. Disney used to be all about dark rides and immersive storytelling.
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I agree. This wasn’t really what the resort and DHS needed. Particularly off the rotation of Tron and Cosmic Rewind. It was the odd man out in the things announced, particularly since we had several flume and water rides that didn’t make the cut and that’s exactly what DHS’ menu needs most.

Two things I think happened here. One, they were particularly desperate to greenlight things quickly. By all means the timeframe this project got pulled off a shelf to being built (theoretically) is actually pretty fast. Right time and place.

The second thing is that they sell LLSP. No questions asked, regardless of this attractions quality, we know it really won’t struggle to monetize itself.
 
TheCoasterNerd

TheCoasterNerd

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In the Parks
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Yes, but if they want the Universal audience to visit WDW, they have to have thrills. Uni, Busch, Lego all have thrills. If they want those audiences at WDW they need thrills too, just in a different way, which is why they're doing what they're doing.
 
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Streetway Again

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TheCoasterNerd said:
Yes, but if they want the Universal audience to visit WDW, they have to have thrills. Uni, Busch, Lego all have thrills. If they want those audiences at WDW they need thrills too, just in a different way, which is why they're doing what they're doing.
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It’s also not like there will NOT be dark rides. Villains and Encanto will be dark rides. Theme parks thrive on variety. Though I do wish dhs had a non coaster new ride, as cool as door coaster is.
 
JackCH

JackCH

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Jrb1979 said:
I disagree. IMO it should be 3 dark rides to every 1 thrill. More Navi but significantly more AAs. Don't get wrong I do love thrills but IMO Disney should go back to what they excell at and is their strength. That is dark rides.
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To me, it is less about "thrill" vs "non-thrill" and more the diversity of ride experiences. Having, essentially, 25% of the new attractions be a coaster of some kind (one being family coaster), one flat ride, 4 dark rides, and 2 simulators, is a very nice diversity of attractions.
 
Jrb1979

Jrb1979

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TheCoasterNerd said:
Yes, but if they want the Universal audience to visit WDW, they have to have thrills. Uni, Busch, Lego all have thrills. If they want those audiences at WDW they need thrills too, just in a different way, which is why they're doing what they're doing.
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I'm not saying no thrills. I'm of the opinion if you can't or unwilling to do thrills as good as Universal or other parks, that they should stick to their strength and what made Disney different.
 
aladdin2007

aladdin2007

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Streetway Again said:
It’s also not like there will NOT be dark rides. Villains and Encanto will be dark rides. Theme parks thrive on variety. Though I do wish dhs had a non coaster new ride, as cool as door coaster is.
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Do we know that for fact? I haven't read or heard anything that it is certain they are doing a dark ride, if villains land even still happens.
 
ChewbaccaYourMum

ChewbaccaYourMum

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Jrb1979 said:
I'm not saying no thrills. I'm of the opinion if you can't or unwilling to do thrills as good as Universal or other parks, that they should stick to their strength and what made Disney different.
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Isn't your statement "can't or unwilling to do thrills as good as Universal" based on the opinion of the individual for a particular ride, though?

In my opinion, the two best coasters in Orlando at the moment are Cosmic Rewind and Hagrid's, based on their thrill, storytelling and theming.
Followed by VelociCoaster, but it loses points for being very bare.

If your opinion is Disney doesn't have any coasters that meet the thrill of Universal, that's absolutely fine, but it's not the end all be all, just like my opinion isn't either.

I think it's absolutely wonderful that Disney World has a great diversity of rides between dark rides, simulations, coasters and thrills, and by no means should stop making thrills/coasters because you think Universal does them better. there's room for everyone to be happy and have something for them, my friend!
 
Jrb1979

Jrb1979

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ChewbaccaYourMum said:
Isn't your statement "can't or unwilling to do thrills as good as Universal" based on the opinion of the individual for a particular ride, though?

In my opinion, the two best coasters in Orlando at the moment are Cosmic Rewind and Hagrid's, based on their thrill, storytelling and theming.
Followed by VelociCoaster, but it loses points for being very bare.

If your opinion is Disney doesn't have any coasters that meet the thrill of Universal, that's absolutely fine, but it's not the end all be all, just like my opinion isn't either.

I think it's absolutely wonderful that Disney World has a great diversity of rides between dark rides, simulations, coasters and thrills, and by no means should stop making thrills/coasters because you think Universal does them better. there's room for everyone to be happy and have something for them, my friend!
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That's a far argument. I'm not saying to not do thrills at all. I'm saying that the majority of new additions should be more dark ride/simulator than coasters/thrill.

More Remy, Rise and Millennium Falcon and less Guardians.
 
ChewbaccaYourMum

ChewbaccaYourMum

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Jrb1979 said:
That's a far argument. I'm not saying to not do thrills at all. I'm saying that the majority of new additions should be more dark ride/simulator than coasters/thrill.

More Remy, Rise and Millennium Falcon and less Guardians.
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Personally, I would love more Cosmic Rewind/type rides haha! But I respect your point, and love those rides you mentioned as well!

I am really looking forward to that rumored Villains dark ride, as I feel like that will be the chance for WDW to do another Rise "All the bells and whistles of Imagineering" type of ride.
 

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