Monorail Limitations

[marni1971]

Martin: if the DHS line was originally drawn up, is there anything on paper showing the potential layout?

You mean I havn`t posted it somewhere?

 

[WDW Monorail]

If I'm not mistaken, some footings for the pylons were poured in the area behind The Land.

 

[marni1971]

If I'm not mistaken, some footings for the pylons were poured in the area behind The Land.

That was the rumour years back, with them being covered only by a foot of topsoil. The timelines don`t add up - if as one assumes this was meant to have happened during park construction the only monorail expansion before `84 was to the east as LBV was still the planned community. I dare say the planned east spur had foundations layed between the Horizons plot and UoE since photographic evidence of this route does match the timeline. This could be the source of confusion. I`ve scoured countless plans and construction photos and never seen any evidence.

As an aside, the southern single track route was to go somewhere south of the park, down what became Victory Way - I`d hazzard a guess to the proposed HST station. The LBV twin line would have run north then east from a new station at the park entrance.

 

[montyz81]

Why not get a sponsor to help them build it. I am sure once the economy is better an airline might be interested in sponsoring an extension to the existing monorail. They then could have exclusive rights to signage inside all the trains.
They could take out those two black wholes in the Swan and dolphin and connect Animal Kingdom, DHS, and Blizzard beach on a spur line. They could add on to the existing station at Epcot and then create a station at Boardwalk to connect all those resorts and then on to the Corinado Springs and the other two parks. From DHS they could hit some of the other resorts then on to DowntownDisney and then back to Epcot. Whats that 20 miles single track? anyway, just a thought

 

[majorrfb]

Please correct if I'm wrong but wouldn't this require a walk between the front gate of EPCOT and the "back" gate?

Yes it would!! But I usually do this when spending half a day at Epcot initially, then proceed to DHS by boat for late afternoon, early evening-:sohappy: primarily for Fantasmic. Then we go back to EPCOT for Illuminations. The boat ride is about 20 minutesl.

 

[Disneykidder]

Yeah, it would take a lot of $$ but it would be a cool thing!

 

[KaliSplash]

Monorail expansion thread. Run for your lives!

 

[MIDisneyFamily]

A couple of things, if the monorail line really only cost a million dollars a mile Disney would be working triple time right now to connect every part of their property. They currently have a little more than 40 miles of track so if they could double it for only 40 million, believe me they'd do it. Everest cost just north of 100 million to build.

As for the monorails, they run at almost peak efficiency. The monthly run rates average about 99.8% fact is they're far more reliable and cost less per mile to operate than the buses. With that said however, buses are more easily replaced and people are far more easily evacuated from buses. Not so with the monorails.

So, the major obstacles to getting additional monorail lines built is the cost per mile figure more like 5-10 million per mile, the cost to construct new monorail stations and the cost of new cars.

So true. There are many monorail studies in cities around the US. Austin Texas was one i had read about. One that was completed, was in Las Vegas, which was also a Bombardier design. the cost, not including land on these projects reached into the tens of millions of dollars per mile. Almost 50 million in the Austin Tx. study. These did not include the land cost. The 4 1/2 mile Las Vegas monorail totaled about $640 million dollars when it was all said and done. I remember reading about an Animal Kingdom loop in the original planning articles about that park, and that it was quickly scrapped because it more than doubled the cost of the project.

 

[devoy1701]

May I suggest that we start a WDWmagic Pennies for the Monorail Expansion fund? Then when we raise the money, WDWmagic can have the sole right to advertise on the monorail trains...

 

[joel_maxwell]

You mean I havn`t posted it somewhere?

you probably have.... im just a spaz when it comes to the "search" feature. it doesnt like me and when i do get a response, who has time to search all thos pages.

wow, would that east route split off the main epcot line, maybe like the maintenance line, or a independant one all together from the epcot station

 

[cococola44]

I did hear about monorail going to celebration

 

[unkadug]

May I suggest that we start a WDWmagic Pennies for the Monorail Expansion fund? Then when we raise the money, WDWmagic can have the sole right to advertise on the monorail trains...

We have 54,000 members. If we each gave $ 186.00 we would have a little over $10,000,000. :lookaroun

Who's first?

 

[jsdratm]

How about you all just give me that money instead... :hammer:

 

[WDW Monorail]

That was the rumour years back, with them being covered only by a foot of topsoil. The timelines don`t add up - if as one assumes this was meant to have happened during park construction the only monorail expansion before `84 was to the east as LBV was still the planned community. I dare say the planned east spur had foundations layed between the Horizons plot and UoE since photographic evidence of this route does match the timeline. This could be the source of confusion. I`ve scoured countless plans and construction photos and never seen any evidence.

As an aside, the southern single track route was to go somewhere south of the park, down what became Victory Way - I`d hazzard a guess to the proposed HST station. The LBV twin line would have run north then east from a new station at the park entrance.

You know, I really wouldn't be surprised if there are footings no matter where they are. Of course the MGM line does not match the EP construction as you said so maybe the footings were for something else? Nah, they probably don't exist in FW East.

Why not get a sponsor to help them build it. I am sure once the economy is better an airline might be interested in sponsoring an extension to the existing monorail. They then could have exclusive rights to signage inside all the trains.
They could take out those two black wholes in the Swan and dolphin and connect Animal Kingdom, DHS, and Blizzard beach on a spur line. They could add on to the existing station at Epcot and then create a station at Boardwalk to connect all those resorts and then on to the Corinado Springs and the other two parks. From DHS they could hit some of the other resorts then on to DowntownDisney and then back to Epcot. Whats that 20 miles single track? anyway, just a thought

:ROFLOL:

 

[montyz81]

I was actually just kidding about the sponsor idea and then I heard that in California they wan to run a monorail from Disneyland to a major city area and the town and Disney would both help pay for it. That is the kind of Sponsorship that Florida needs to help them move people around. I remember way back in 1983, i saw a plan that Disney himself put together that helped connect the greater Orlando Area to the Magic kingdom. I am not sure where I saw it.