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MKCP's 2/5 - 2/7 Update

Greetings, everyone! Have any of you ever wondered what it would really be like to take your family of four to Walt Disney World during a true off-season when the parks close early and it isn’t hot and the crowds aren’t bad? I want to share my experience last week so you can decide for yourself whether it would be worth taking an off-peak trip.

It has been a long time since we have been able to go in the off-season, as we have very school aged children – grades 9 and 7. Our holiday schedules are wrapped around school breaks, but we live in an area that celebrates Mardi Gras, and schools close for the Monday and “Fat Tuesday” before Ash Wednesday. This year Mardi Gras was before Spring Break, so it worked out that we could go before things begin picking up in later-February. Mrs. MKCP has a college roommate who lives near Orlando and was having a big birthday party (the real reason for the trip – originally), so that had to be worked in and planned around as well.

We drove down on Friday, February 4 and checked into an All Star resort. We have twice stayed in All Stars before (Music and Sports), but during our last two visits to Orlando in 2003 and 2004 we stayed at the Hard Rock Hotel at Universal and the Coronado Springs Resort. For me, the All Stars are NOT the place to be with all the hotels available within the Disney property and the surrounding area. For one thing, there are no coffee pots in the rooms. That may be a minor point, but those in-room coffee pots are pretty much standard anywhere I go these days, and to have to walk to the dining hall for a morning cup of coffee – “That’s not magic!” Secondly, my room had a combination body wash/shampoo dispenser built into the shower. No little Mickey Mouse shampoo bottles for this trip! Lastly, the rooms are tiny at 220 square feet. I will say, though, to be fair, the service was great! There was a big group of junior high and high school aged dancers checked in for a big dance competition, so my teenaged son had no complaints at all!

Saturday, February 5 (Day 1) Disney-MGM Studios

Something I picked up on this board – ask for a wake up call, and Mickey Mouse and the gang are on the other end of the line when the telephone rings at the appointed time. I “made” my daughter answer the phone the first morning, hoping the unmistakable sound of Mickey’s voice would soften the blow of having to wake up so early. We were determined to be cheap on this trip (remember, we stayed at the All Star Music for $75 per night), so it was agreed we would hit that big McDonalds for breakfast on the way to the Disney-MGM Studios park.

Truly, All Stars resorts have THE WORST bus transportation in all of the Walt Disney World. Each resort has ten buildings and each bus stops at all three resorts coming and going, so we decided going into the trip that we would skip the bus transportation as much as possible. Even if they send more buses, every experience I’ve had has been the buses are jammed to capacity and you wait for two or three buses before you ever get on.

So, we get our Mc-breakfast and cruise into the lot at the Disney-MGM Studios right at park opening time – 9:00! We had purchased our park tickets at guest services before leaving the hotel, so we walked right into the park with no waiting. Well, that’s not completely true. At the turnstiles, you have to put your two fingers in a scanner and make a “peace sign.” When you do this, the scanner is supposed to associate your fingerprints with your ticket (presumably so you don’t give a multi-day pass to someone else). This was a pain, as the reader didn’t readily figure out the finger prints. On busy days, this will be a major bother if they don’t get it working better!

We stopped on the main drag and had family photos taken by a Disney photographer who gave us the new DisneyPhotoPass.com card and told us that each time we see a Disney photographer, we could give him/her that card and then at the end of our trip, we could access the pass code printed on the card to view all our photos online and purchase 5” x 7” prints of the ones we want for only $12.95 plus shipping! So we did, and we asked her to take a photo with our disposable camera, too, and she happily obliged. There’s a tip – those great Disney photographers will take a photo of your entire group with your own camera if you ask them to do so. Most people don’t ask because they assume the photographers won’t do it since they are taking photos they charge you to purchase.

After getting the “here we are!” photos, we skipped down to Sunset Blvd for our opening run at the Rock n’ Roller Coaster and Tower of Terror one-two punch. There was no need for fast passes – there was no wait at all. Zero. Walk on. My Personal Heaven! One cure for the complaint that Rock n’ Roller Coaster is too short at 90 seconds is to do it twice in a row without having to wait in between. That made for a very nice experience, indeed.

After the second run, we walked over to Tower of Terror, my very favorite attraction in all of Walt Disney World. The posted wait time was 13 minutes, but that was just for show. There was no wait at all. We did it twice, too.

The next stop was the Great Movie Ride. It was about 10:00 a.m. by this point, and we had to wait somewhere around ten minutes before boarding our ride vehicle. We waited just long enough to watch the entire reel of trailers in the theater, and as they were starting the second round, in we went. Darin (?) was our energetic and well-trained master of ceremonies and we drew the gangster shootout scene (my favorite!). He was replaced by a “youse-guys” talking mobster cast member who truly fit the bill. The gangster was just about to rob us of our valuables, starting with the jewelry, when he saw the enormous jewel in the Indiana Jones scene, and couldn’t resist it. This was the best-performed run of GMR I’ve experienced in years.

From there, Walt Disney- One Man’s Dream and the Muppets called (Bean Bunny ran away – again!) and then Star Tours (all with NO WAIT) and it was time for lunch in my favorite restaurant in all the Studios: the Sci-Fi Drive in Theater. Our priority seating reservations were for 12:30, and those without reservations were being told they would be able to be seated at the picnic tables right away, or they could be served sometime after 2:30.

The food here is “basic burger,” but that’s not why we like it. We love to eat in the replica convertibles and we love to watch the campy sci-fi trailers and cartoons. We asked for a glow in the dark anything and were served sodas in a glow in the dark plastic cup with a logo that matched the glow in the dark Frisbee plate my kids had been served children’s meals five years ago! These came with illuminated ice cubes – sweet, but pricey!

After lunch, we met Mike and Sully from Monsters, Inc., then walked over to the back lot tour and, for the first time ever our whole family was asked to be the stunt people in the “air attack on a boat” deal. Mrs. MKCP begged off, claiming that she wanted to take photos of this madness, so the three of us, plus a female CPer from Animal Kingdom did our duty. What fun! I highly recommend making a fool of one’s self if afforded the opportunity, but have someone in your group available to tape the silliness or take photos, because you don’t get to see the playback of yourself, and there is no record of it. On the tram tour, Walt Disney’s plane is still on display (cool!) and you get a good preview of Lights Motors Action, but little else. Catastrophe Canyon was good, though the tanker truck still didn’t slide down the canyon when pushed by water. Is it awaiting a rehab for this effect to return? At the end of the tour, there are some excellent villain costumes on display at the tour exit.

When the back lot tour was complete, we figured to have time for one more go at the Rock n’ Roller Coaster and Tower of Terror, but there was one thing we had to do first – the Animation Tour.

Why the animation tour? A big deal had been made here on some threads about the animators being replaced at the animation tour, so we made the effort to check this out as they were in what may have been their final days. When I was last at the Disney-MGM Studios park in October of 2004, animation was completely closed, so this was my first time to see what had been opened. We sat through the main show, with a cast member having a conversation with the dragon from Mulan, then saw the Incredibles in a meet and greet, and then we left. So my point is this – we were looking to meet the animator. While waiting to go into the theater, I spoke with two different cast members who confirmed the animators who teach you to draw a character were still there, but the original tour of the animators’ work stations had been replaced (which we already knew). Most people don’t know what to expect when they go inside the Animation Theater, so we had prior knowledge about real animators working there that most people don’t get. Even knowing what to look for, we didn’t see the animator and we didn’t see any publicity for meeting the animator. I know it was there, but after the main show and the meet and greet we’d invested about 45 minutes in the pavilion and we were ready to move on. After personally experiencing the Animation pavilion, I believe most park guests will not even know they have missed out on anything if the animators’ contracts are not renewed. Sorry, but I’m giving you a first hand account of the attraction.

After walking back over to Sunset Blvd, it was a little after 5:00 p.m., and the park was closing at 7:00 with a showing of Fantasmic. For the first time all day, there was a wait time for an attraction! RnRC was about 35-40 minutes and ToT was the same. Our friend’s birthday party was that night, so the Mrs. and I left our teens to close out the park while we went back to the room to freshen up for the party. They stayed to park close, then took the bus back to the All Stars and reported that they waited in line for three buses, then boarded to standing room only, and it took an hour to get back to the hotel. Gotta love All Stars transportation!

But as for off-season: We didn’t use a single fast pass all day, and never had to wait for anything until the very end of the day when wait time for the major attractions on Sunset Blvd was roughly 40 minutes apiece, and this was a Saturday – traditionally the busiest day of the week for the Studios park! I didn’t mention the weather, but it was partly cloudy and the temperature approached 70 degrees Fahrenheit, with no humidity. No crowds, no hot, humid weather, and most everything was working. I LOVE THE STUDIOS in FEBRUARY!

(Next: Super Bowl Sunday)
 

MKCP 1985

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addendum: I completely forgot to add that we saw the Voyage of the Little Mermaid on this trip. We hadn't seen it since my daughter had gotten tall enough to ride the Tower of Terror, so this was a blast from the past for us. We really had time to do every attraction we wanted to do on this day, but the Indiana Jones Stunt Show was closed for some reason on Saturday.
 

MKCP 1985

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Day 2: February 6 Super Bowl Sunday

The Saturday night birthday party had been quite a bash but Mrs. and I had still gotten back at a respectable hour so it wasn't too hard to get up early for day 2 in the parks. This was to be a day in the Universal Parks (Boo! Hiss! :lol: ) This day, Mickey woke up my son and we went for breakfast at the All Stars Dining Hall, kind of. We walked down and obtained refills on the coffee cups PURCHASED SPECIFICALLY ON THIS TRIP TO BE REFILLED ONLY AT THIS RESORT AND ONLY FOR LENGTH OF STAY :animwink: then picked up a bag of muffins for a total cost of about $10.00. Just for kicks, I stopped at guest services and asked if they would sell me tickets to the Universal Studios parks. Umm . . . no. They still don’t. :lol: Probably just a coincidence, but this was the day my remote control disappeared back at the room, too, never to be seen again.

Before long, we were en route to Universal’s Islands of Adventure, because when you have two teenagers, you can’t come down for more than a couple of days and not go to the coaster park. We did it last Easter and regretted it. All agreed a day with Spider Man and company would have beat a day split between Animal Kingdom and Epcot. That’s our family though – we’d rather be upside down pulling 4 gs or rounding up Dr. Octopus and his gang than looking for hiding animals or analyzing the meaning of a fireworks show on a ball in the middle of a lake, but that’s just us.

We figured we’d end the day with a Disney treat, watching Wishes from the beach at the Poly and then feasting on the offerings of ‘Ohanas.

So anyway, we get to Universal and for $20 more, you can get a one day, two park ticket. We had been really wanting to see the Mummy, so I was all over that. I’m thinking the total ticket prices were about $80 each with this feature, which I am pretty sure is less expensive than a one day “magic your way” ticket with the park hopper feature added in.

We had been spoiled by staying at the Hard Rock the last and only other time we had been to Universal. When you don't stay at the hotel, they park you ten miles away and then you have to walk the whole way over to the park entrances! By the time we hoofed it over and got our tickets, it was probably close to 10:00, and the park had opened at 9:00.

BUT IT DIDN”T MATTER! Hulk was no wait. Spider Man was maybe 15 minutes. Dr. Doom was maybe 10 minutes. This was great! We went to each attraction we wanted to see (once) and had been all the way through the park by 1:00.

Just a couple of things to know: Dudley Do-Right’s Ripsaw Falls gets you A LOT WETTER than Splash Mountain. I wasn’t sure why, and I asked the Mountie at the ride entrance, “How wet do you get on this ride.” He answered, “It is a splash.” I asked, “Do you mean a spray, like on Jurassic Park.” “No,” he said, “A Splash.” With trepidation, I ventured forth. If you sit in the front of the log, you will get wet from water coming over the front at the splashdown. I was in the back, and was fairly dry at the end, which made me happy since the weather was again partly cloudy and cool. That’s when the water cannons started! :mad: Apparently, the good mountie failed to tell me that cruel, sadistic meanies can pay 25 cents to shoot water cannons at people who’ve come off the splashdown and are waiting to unload! And there was no shortage of cruel, sadistic meanies who wanted to soak us good! :lol: We were very wet when we came off the ride.

The other thing: Universal sells churros, too. :slurp: And in Seussland – moose juice and goose juice. :slurp:

We went over to Jimmy Buffett’s Margaritaville for lunch and asked to sit near the volcano. I’d heard about this volcano, but on my last trip to Universal (2003), the restaurant was so packed I never got a good look at it. Well, sure enough, by the end of our meal, the volcano erupted and spewed green “margaritas” down the mountain into an enormous “blender.” This was great!

After lunch, we walked over to Universal Studios and experienced “the Mummy.” This is a great, great ride! You must experience it if you enjoy dark rides and thrill rides. In my opinion, this is the type of ride Disney should be making!

Other notes from Universal: Shrek has some technology you won’t find in the Disney 4-D movies. It is a good show, but my family was unanimous in preferring the Disney 4-D shows. Men in Black may have better aliens to blast than Buzz Lightyear, but Buzz has MORE to shoot and is more fun to me. At Men in Black, you spend too much time hunting for aliens to shoot, while at Buzz, you just blast away. The park closed at 6:00, and we closed out our day at Universal with Jimmy Neutron’s 3-D trip through cartoonland. This is a cute ride.

After hiking back to our car, we found we had plenty of time to get back to the Poly for our 7:15 priority seating at ‘Ohanas. We checked in, got a tropical drink, watched the first quarter of the Super Bowl while waiting for our tropical drink, then walked down to the beach just in time to get a full viewing of Wishes. Someone had asked in another thread about where at the Poly to watch the show without being in a crowd, but on this night, there was plenty of room to watch the show on the beach with no problems.

After Wishes, we walked back up and had our feast. The desert goes mostly unmentioned but is very good and is included in the price of the meal: Pineapple slices dipped in caramel. :slurp:

There was a huge crowd around the television by the bar watching the Super Bowl. The All Stars also had some type of Super Bowl party, but we were happy to hang out at the Poly. We watched for a while, then headed back to the room to catch the end of the game where we could relax. After two days of pushing ourselves to catch maximum attractions, our dogs were barking (translation: our feet were tired!) But where was the remote control?

Next: Day 3 Magic Kingdom
 

MKCP 1985

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Day 3: Magic Kingdom

My favorite park at Walt Disney World is the Disney-MGM Studios park, but I will always have a very special place in my heart for the Magic Kingdom. I first visited that park in 1972, and have been visiting periodically ever since. Moreover, I spent two college summers working at the Magic Kingdom in outdoor foods, and I wouldn’t trade my memories of those two summers for much of anything. But that was then and now I have a skeptical feeling that the Magic Kingdom has been made into a park mostly for families traveling with 4 year olds who want every ride to be tame, so I was a little nervous about telling my two teens that this was going to be a family day and we were going to stick together, because I know how much they enjoy coasters and there was no way that we were going to get through this day without riding Peter Pan and, gasp, the Carousel. We were determined that with some give and take, we could do this.

Remember the last two days, how there were no lines of significance? We ventured forth to the Magic Kingdom hopeful for one more day of such bliss, but found that this day would present challenges not previously seen on this trip. Why were the crowds so big on this day? Perhaps an influx of people from Louisiana, and the coasts of Mississippi and Alabama fleeing Mardi Gras, combined with people catching a day with Mickey Mouse after coming to Jacksonville for the Super Bowl? Who knows? No cast member really had a definite answer, but this was the busiest day of the three by far.

I love the monorail so the day had to start with a monorail ride. We drove over to the Contemporary for breakfast with Chef Mickey and were told by the friendly security officer at the parking lot entrance that we could only stay for three hours, and he gave us a parking pass plainly marked so.

Eventually, we took the monorail from the Contemporary. While waiting for the monorail to come, I first noticed a definite change that has occurred in the familiar sound of the approaching train. No more do you hear the “click clack, click clack, click clack” of the train coming into the loading platform. This most recent model just seems to glide on air. It is very quiet compared to the monorail of my memory, and this Monorail (Pink?) sported us over to the Magic Kingdom. It was a beautiful day with the sun beaming down, probably just cracking 70 degrees Fahrenheit.

After the now familiar “peace sign” finger entry (still not working efficiently), we took in the view of the hub around City Hall. Dopey, Robin Hood and together – King Louie and Baloo were greeting guests. There’s an unlikely combination of characters, hmm? We set off down Main Street, USA, looking for a photographer to snap our family photo – customary for our family on any day spent at the Magic Kingdom. We found a young lady and gave her our DisneyPhotoPass.com card from Saturday, and she loaded it into her camera and took the usual photos. Sadly, at this point, we have yet to locate those photos. My advice to you: Get a new card for each day you spend in the park.

We saw the progress in the Cinderella Castle decorations, although it was hard to miss the fact Captain Hook was doing his own decorating as we approached. The Jolly Roger was flying from the castle as a show was in progress! The “proper” decorations are going to make Cinderella’s castle really look grand.

Our kids being thrill seekers, we started our morning in Tomorrowland with back to back rides on Space Mountain (10 minute waits), and we used our first Fast Pass of the trip to reserve time for Stitch’s Great Escape. We went to visit Buzz Lightyear while waiting for Stitch. This was going to be a day of slight mechanical malfunctions, starting with Buzz. The ride stopped for a couple of minutes, allowing us to pad our point totals, so nobody was unhappy about that!

I don’t know what to tell you about Stitch. I’ve read all the reviews, like you probably have, and was apprehensive. All I will say is that you should see it for yourself and decide what you think about it.

We found that in order to maximize the attractions on this semi-busy day, we had to be smart about our use of fast passes, and we had to backtrack a few times. We used fast passes for Stitch, Peter Pan, PhilharMagic and Big Thunder over the course of the day, and we stood in line for over an hour for Splash Mountain (groan!), but we never stood in any other line for more than 15 minutes or so, and we experienced all our favorite attractions, many multiple times. In fact, the kids rode Space Mountain a third time, toward the end of the day and they did have to wait closer to 30 minutes on that occasion (oops), but we found that we could do so much more with the time spent in the park on this day as compared to busier Easter and summer days.

On this day, the Magic Kingdom closed at 9:00 p.m., with an 8:00 SpectroMagic parade and Wishes at closing. Somebody must have known it would be a busy day, because the previous day it had closed at 7:00 p.m. In order to catch a few rides without long waits, we skipped the parade this time. :( Our daughter had a spot where she had viewed Wishes last year at Easter, and she wanted us to watch the show from that spot – in Tomorrowland, where you view the fireworks over the top of the the teacups. This turned out to be a really good spot, because the trademark white flares are fired from right in front of where you are viewing, and there are no crowds watching the show from that spot, I can guarantee you!

Remember I told you this was to be a day of minor malfunctions? In addition to Buzz, Big Thunder stopped while we were at the top of one area and just about to plunge down and to the left. We stayed still for almost a minute (long enough to get out a camera and snap some photos). I’ve never had that happen before. Later, while Mrs. MKCP and I were watching Carousel of Progress, it failed to rotate after the last scene, so we watched the last scene twice. He burned that turkey both times!

Anyway, this was our first time to see PhilharMagic, which we really loved and deemed an instant classic, and it was our first time to see Stitch, which we were glad to see since we’d heard so much about it. :animwink:

After a good 45 minutes of shopping on Main Street at the conclusion of Wishes, we boarded the monorail and called it a trip. This was a great family trip for the four of us. I was really happily surprised that my teens stayed with us most all day, had a great time, and endured Snow White, Pooh, the Carousel and Peter Pan. My doubts that a family with two teenaged kids can have a great day at the Magic Kingdom were put to rest.

I hope you have enjoyed the report.
 

MKCP 1985

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THANKS tigsmom, TowerOfTerror and NemoRocks for your kind words. Nemo - looks like you are next up for a visit. We'll be waiting for your report!
 

MKCP 1985

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stranger said:
Did you eat my churro too? :p

Besides you eating our churros, I enjoyed your trip report. :wave:

:o I couldn't help myself - they were calling to me. :o

Thanks for reading, and thank you too, Gucci65! The Mummy will be demanding our return!
 

MKCP 1985

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Final comment:

As I previously told you the Disney PhotoPass photos from the Magic Kingdom were apparently lost, but the story has a happy ending. Just today (February 18) I received an e-mail from Stephanie at Disney Guest Support. She found the missing photos!

To recap, we had photos taken on two different days at two different parks, with all photos stored on one single photo card. When we returned home on Feb 8, I went through the steps to retrieve the photos and encountered one problem after another:

(1) First, I couldn't view the photos because someone else had registered the unique card number; :mad:

(2) When that problem was fixed and I could view the photos on the account, our photos from the Disney-MGM Studios park were there, but not our photos from the Magic Kingdom. And some other family's photos from the Studios park were there, too! :mad:

(3) When I thanked Missy at Guest Support for getting me into the account, but told her about the problems in #2, she told me how to delete the photos of the other family and promised to look for the Magic Kingdom photos. That was one week ago today.

I sent follow-up e-mails this week and heard nothing. By yesterday, I had given up on them. But then, today - the photos were found. :sohappy:
 

DisneySam

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Glad you had a good trip with short lines. I went with a friend last August [endured the miserable heat] but had very short lines, I think the only thing we FP was Peter Pan, and Splash Mountain. It as GREAT!

PS: I know what you mean about the coffee pots at the AllStar...
 

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