MK Ride Shutdown

[MicBat]

Furthermore, Micbat.... Umm... I'll talk to the person you most likely spoke with, but I am fairly certain MK wasn't even approaching phases when it happened, especially because it happened around 10 a.m.

:lol: :lol: No need.. I probably misunderstood her.

 

[marni1971]

It's just a blurb. A water-injection system that is part of the pressurized air system stopped working so a bunch of rides closed down for 1 hour Wednesday afternoon. Not a big deal really.

Its a very big deal when one of the worlds premier parks main and redundant systems fail too, as obviously happened. Assuming there is redundancy built in...

I`m surprised they all rely on one feed too, especially since Dumbo and Splash arn`t exactly neighbours.

 

[M:SpilotISTC12]

Ummm... I have never seen that happen before.

 

[Tom]

Its a very big deal when one of the worlds premier parks main and redundant systems fail too, as obviously happened. Assuming there is redundancy built in...

I`m surprised they all rely on one feed too, especially since Dumbo and Splash arn`t exactly neighbours.

I'm with ya there Marni. I give the Imagineers a bit more credit than to put 14 major air-controlled attractions on one feed. I would predict that each ride has the capability of producing its own air. There is a LOT of risk in running compressed air piping all over property to feed the brakes on all these rides. And even if they DO have this system, they would at least have an emergency backup compressor in each respective ride to throw on the brakes.

 

[mousermerf]

Its a very big deal when one of the worlds premier parks main and redundant systems fail too, as obviously happened. Assuming there is redundancy built in...

I`m surprised they all rely on one feed too, especially since Dumbo and Splash arn`t exactly neighbours.

You have no idea what you're talking about nor any details of what actually happened.

Others have said these things do happen, and not just at Disney. And unlike 3-mile Island where a failing water pump put many people's live severely in danger, Disney's sysem did exactly what they were supposed to and brought the ride systems down so they could be safely evacuated and not operate until the problem was fixed. (Ride evacs happen daily - this wasn't like some running and screaming event. Many happened to occur at once - all without a hitch, which should speak volumes for their safety processes.) The air didn't just stop and the Dumbos didnt fall out of the sky. Those tons of redundancies you mentioned worked to keep Guests safe.

I kindly suggest you stick to talking about things where you have a knowledge base rathern than getting people worked up over a non-issue.

 

[marni1971]

mousemerf - welcome to the boards.

You have a lot to learn.

I wasn`t refering to the fact the rides stopped perfectly. I was refering to the fact the problem happened in the first place, and affected more than one attraction.

I suggest you look up the words etiquette, manners and politness.

 

[fillerup]

mousemerf - welcome to the boards.

You have a lot to learn.

I wasn`t refering to the fact the rides stopped perfectly. I was refering to the fact the problem happened in the first place, and affected more than one attraction.

I suggest you look up the words etiquette, manners and politness.

Totally agree.

Mousemerf - Way, Way out of Bounds. Learn some manners or you're not gonna be around these parts very long.

 

[peter11435]

While mousermerf should have been more polite, his information is correct. The fact is the redundant systems did not fail. In fact they worked perfectly. However, you can't run a ride on the backup system because what happens if that goes out. Thus, the rides had to be evacuated and closed until the repair was made. The system worked perfectly and everyone was kept safe. Also each ride does have its own air pressure system. The system that went out carries water to each of these 14 attractions air pressure systems. Thus each of the 14 systems went out.

 

[se8472]

While mousermerf should have been more polite, his information is correct. The fact is the redundant systems did not fail. In fact they worked perfectly. However, you can't run a ride on the backup system because what happens if that goes out. Thus, the rides had to be evacuated and closed until the repair was made. The system worked perfectly and everyone was kept safe. Also each ride does have its own air pressure system. The system that went out carries water to each of these 14 attractions air pressure systems. Thus each of the 14 systems went out.

beat me to it but there you all go.

 

[PhotoDave219]

You have no idea what you're talking about nor any details of what actually happened.

Others have said these things do happen, and not just at Disney. And unlike 3-mile Island where a failing water pump put many people's live severely in danger, Disney's sysem did exactly what they were supposed to and brought the ride systems down so they could be safely evacuated and not operate until the problem was fixed. (Ride evacs happen daily - this wasn't like some running and screaming event. Many happened to occur at once - all without a hitch, which should speak volumes for their safety processes.) The air didn't just stop and the Dumbos didnt fall out of the sky. Those tons of redundancies you mentioned worked to keep Guests safe.

I kindly suggest you stick to talking about things where you have a knowledge base rathern than getting people worked up over a non-issue.

Easy, CM, Easy. Its obvious youre a CM over in attractions. Most people up here dont know much about the 'behind the scenes' workings of the MK. Lots of people know just speculation, myself included.

So cut people some slack and reign it back a few knotches, but keep the info comming

And FYI, the mouse monitors these forums - a manager and i talked about that when i woked for there. Keep your name quiet, word to the wise.

 

[tigsmom]

I was surprised as well. There's nothing really going on... so I dunno.

Its Passover this weekend. Disney has started to market this as a family destination (kinda like the Christmas celebrations). There was a big story in the Wall Street Journal the other day. (I'm not registered on the site so I can't link it)

We have a 4 day weekend because of it and a lot of families have headed down to visit. :wave:

 

[mousermerf]

I'm still not sure what i said that was wrong - unless correcting someone simply because of their pecking order is wrong *shrug*

Correctness is more important than social grace.

 

[tigsmom]

I'm still not sure what i said that was wrong - unless correcting someone simply because of their pecking order is wrong *shrug*

Correctness is more important than social grace.

Please remember, its not what you say, but how you say it.
I read your post three times and I think you could have stated the same things in a less harsh tone .

Being correct is important, but so are social graces. :wave:

 

[yoyoflamingo]

Does anyone know the other 12 attractions that went down besides Splash and Dumbo? I'd be curious to see what was left to choose from.

 

[CRO-Magnum]

I'm still not sure what i said that was wrong - unless correcting someone simply because of their pecking order is wrong *shrug*

Correctness is more important than social grace.

It's not what you said, but how you said it. I can understand you may wish to believe that being correct is paramount, however social grace is always the most important. It is incumbent upon everyone to treat others with the proper respect, especially when another is wrong. Feel free to correct, but do so in a non-confrontational way. As a former controls systems engineer I can attest to the fact that A) having 14 rides shutdown seems a likely failure of backup systems and B) the rides did as designed and returned to a non-energized position without risk of injury. Inside information is always cool, but remember that a large portion of how you communicate is lost when confined to the written word. You can be the victim of someone reading what you've written from a different angle and taking offense. If you demostrate grace, your motives will never be questioned.

My recommendation, and I 've been visiting this site far longer than the number of posts would indicate (primarily because I don't risk biting the hand that feeds), take this forum, in fact this entire site, as an opportunity to educate others when sharing facts or your opinion. This is my approach as a former CM and consultant to Disney Company; to behave as if I was working.

 

[Woody13]

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[AEfx]

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[PhotoDave219]

It's not what you said, but how you said it. I can understand you may wish to believe that being correct is paramount, however social grace is always the most important. It is incumbent upon everyone to treat others with the proper respect, especially when another is wrong. Feel free to correct, but do so in a non-confrontational way. As a former controls systems engineer I can attest to the fact that A) having 14 rides shutdown seems a likely failure of backup systems and B) the rides did as designed and returned to a non-energized position without risk of injury. Inside information is always cool, but remember that a large portion of how you communicate is lost when confined to the written word. You can be the victim of someone reading what you've written from a different angle and taking offense. If you demostrate grace, your motives will never be questioned.

My recommendation, and I 've been visiting this site far longer than the number of posts would indicate (primarily because I don't risk biting the hand that feeds), take this forum, in fact this entire site, as an opportunity to educate others when sharing facts or your opinion. This is my approach as a former CM and consultant to Disney Company; to behave as if I was working.

Of course when you have 7 people correcting what one person does/says, that comes off a tad condecending. It becomes a 2-way street, and it looks to me like everyone is taking teh time to take shots at a new person - which isn't cool.

Stuff like that gives our message forum the wrong reputation.

 

[Tim G]

Of course when you have 7 people correcting what one person does/says, that comes off a tad condecending. It becomes a 2-way street, and it looks to me like everyone is taking teh time to take shots at a new person - which isn't cool.

Stuff like that gives our message forum the wrong reputation.

AND... YOU'RE RIGHT!!!
It's no use p#$$ing people of...
We (at least I do) welcome new users...

 

[Computer Magic]

Great information and thanks to the new members on the board for sharing their knowledge and information. This is why I come here.