Mission Space vs. Test Track Wait time.

[bgraham34]

Well i have been waiting to see Mission Space since it opened. I was not worried about getting sick on it either. We came from Mexico to goto Mission Space and Fast Passed it and then onto Test Track. To my amazement we looked at the wait time for TT first and it was 65 mins and MS was only 5. Holy crap. In my honest opion I must say that MS is a much better ride. Much more fun, thrill seeking, adrenaline rushing excitement then TT. Maybe because I trained people how to do high speed turns and such, or is it becuase MS has a chance of making someone sick.

 

[se8472]

If I am not mistaken, Mission: Space can move a lot more butts per minute then Test Track.

There are otehr factors too.

 

[PurpleDragon]

Yes M:S has a much higher capacity per hour! I think it exceeds TT by about 2-3 times, but not sure so don't quote me.

Also TT has been having numerous problems on a daily basis from what I've heard, it breaks down pretty frequently, as well as the fast pass monkey wrenching the whole queing system (but we won't open that old wound ).

 

[se8472]

Then there is TT going down for weather, so the FP's back up.

If someone gets sick on M:S, only a 3rd of the ride is down....something that few rides at WDW can do.

 

[brich]

I too was surprised to see virtually no one lining up for Mission Space. I enjoyed it but not enough to ride again. The intensity is a lot stronger on M:S than Test Track and that could be a reason why people are waiting 60 minutes to ride TT and no one is waiting to ride M:S. TT was breaking down a lot when we were there. Also seeing all the people laying around near M:S exit looking as if they just survived a train wreck may also be a reason people aren't lining up to go this. Different strokes for different folks.

 

[GymLeaderPhil]

You have to remember though that there used to be three preshow areas before you reached the loading queue at Test Track. Now that the single riders take up the first preshow area (and often in small numbers), the normal queue is backed up.

Mission Space "preloads" riders in the preshow. None of the MS preshow rooms are empty like TT's single rider preshow room.

 

[PurpleDragon]

I too was surprised to see virtually no one lining up for Mission Space. I enjoyed it but not enough to ride again. The intensity is a lot stronger on M:S than Test Track and that could be a reason why people are waiting 60 minutes to ride TT and no one is waiting to ride M:S. TT was breaking down a lot when we were there. Also seeing all the people laying around near M:S exit looking as if they just survived a train wreck may also be a reason people aren't lining up to go this. Different strokes for different folks.

This is true. I know on my last visit I had a bit of a sinus problem, and after riding M:S, I had no interest in doing it again for quite some time. It made me very dizzy and somewhat nauseous, so I know nextime if I have a sinus problem, I will not go anywhere near M:S. So there might be a large number of people who have had similar issues that keep them from reriding M:S.


On the other hand I haven't ridden TT in over 3 years because the lines have been so rediculously long during my past few visits. I have all but given up hope of ever riding it again.

 

[PurpleDragon]

You have to remember though that there used to be three preshow areas before you reached the loading queue. Now that the single riders take up the first preshow area (and often in small numbers), the normal queue is backed up.

Incorrect, Fast pass takes up the entire first screening room! Which leaves the other 2 rooms for single riders and stand-by. That is why I don't think fast pass belongs in TT. Sorry, I shouldn't reopen that discussion.:zipit:

 

[GymLeaderPhil]

Incorrect, Fast pass takes up the entire first screening room! Which leaves the other 2 rooms for single riders and stand-by. That is why I don't think fast pass belongs in TT. Sorry, I shouldn't reopen that discussion.:zipit:

I beg to differ, sorry. The first preshow room (nearest to the queue lines) has a sign posted on the door (and/or outside the doors) which reminds riders that the queue they are in. It specifically states that parties will be split up.

The CM loading the preshow waiting area lets Fast Pass riders in first for either of the back two preshow areas. This has been the procedure each time I've been stuck in the Singles line, including last Friday.

 

[PurpleDragon]

I beg to differ, sorry. The first preshow room (nearest to the queue lines) has a sign posted on the door (and/or outside the doors) which reminds riders that the queue they are in. It specifically states that parties will be split up.

The CM loading the preshow waiting area lets Fast Pass riders in first for either of the back two preshow areas. This has been the procedure each time I've been stuck in the Singles line, including last Friday.

I will take your word on it. I am only going on what I can remember from the last time I rode TT about 2-3 years ago. At that time they were using the first screening room specifically for FP riders, I am sure they have made some changes since then.:hammer:But I still think they should have never introduced FP on this attraction.

 

[brich]

So there might be a large number of people who have had similar issues that keep them from reriding M:S

I was 100% healthy when I rode and I don't feel the desire to jump back on. The biggest problem I had on M:S was that the woman next to me kept covering her mouth with her hand and I was pretty sure I would be experiencing something that would change my life forever. I just felt bad for all those people scattered all over the ground outside the ride. They looked pretty messed up. Not exactly a great advertisement for the ride behind them. :lol:

 

[PurpleDragon]

I was 100% healthy when I rode and I don't feel the desire to jump back on. The biggest problem I had on M:S was that the woman next to me kept covering her mouth with her hand and I was pretty sure I would be experiencing something that would change my life forever. I just felt bad for all those people scattered all over the ground outside the ride. They looked pretty messed up. Not exactly a great advertisement for the ride behind them. :lol:

True!! An area full of pale faced, sick looking people, with the faint smell of vomit, is an area I would tend to shy away from. :lol::lol:

I think the G's produced form that ride are amazing, however the intensity is far beynd the threshold of your average, non thrill seeking guest. Hell my eyes almost go crossed from the G's everytime I experience take off. LOL!!:lol:

I think if its possible, they should shave a few MPH off the rotation speed of the centrifuge, to slightly soften the G forces experienced. Although, if they do it too much it will seem dull and not much of a thrill, it just needs a slight tweeking. If done right, it will be more enjoyable for those people who don't enjoy the current setup.

 

[StevenT]

I beg to differ, sorry. The first preshow room (nearest to the queue lines) has a sign posted on the door (and/or outside the doors) which reminds riders that the queue they are in. It specifically states that parties will be split up.

The CM loading the preshow waiting area lets Fast Pass riders in first for either of the back two preshow areas. This has been the procedure each time I've been stuck in the Singles line, including last Friday.

Indeed you are correct. The first preshow room is for the Disabled and Single Riders only. So there aren't very many people in that room at all. I know this for a fact given as I rode single rider on Dec. 12th.

 

[gobuckeye@wdw]

You have to remember though that there used to be three preshow areas before you reached the loading queue at Test Track. Now that the single riders take up the first preshow area (and often in small numbers), the normal queue is backed up.

Mission Space "preloads" riders in the preshow. None of the MS preshow rooms are empty like TT's single rider preshow room.

Ok, here we go again......

The singles line has NOTHING to do with long lines at Test Track. Think about it, if they did not have a singles line every car would only contain four riders due to the lack of groups of three. Due to the singles line Test Track can handle nearly 100 more passengers per hour!!!!! Just because they take up a pre show screening room doesn't mean they add to the wait time!!!!:brick: Lets just face it, Test Track is a VERY SLOW loading ride!!!! Personally, the more I ride it the more I realize how much better Mission:Space is!!!!

Thanks for the vine, I am out!

 

[gobuckeye@wdw]

Indeed you are correct. The first preshow room is for the Disabled and Single Riders only. So there aren't very many people in that room at all. I know this for a fact given as I rode single rider on Dec. 12th.

During slower times, like the time in which you were there, the singles line is often very short. But.............. During the peak season I have waited as long as one hour in the singles line!!!!!!!

I just think that the singles line is a BRILLIANT idea and don't like when people bash it as ineffective. I do agree that during slower times (like between Thanksgiving and two weeks before Christmas) the single riders line should not have their own preshow room along with fastpasses.

 

[FamilyMan]

I have to agree. As long as there is a steady stream of guests getting on in the loading area, the Briefing Rooms have nothing to do with compacity.

 

[TheOneVader]

Well, if you think about it, it's obvious. Test Track takes a while to load people, and they pretty much just allow FP in and a couple of stand-by (They should do it the opposite way, IMO). Now look at M:S. There are 4 centerfuges. Each centerfuge has what, like 8 car things, each holding 4 people. That's a lot right there. Then, there are the two pre-show things for each centerfuge, which I doubt they count in the wait time.

 

[GymLeaderPhil]

The singles line has NOTHING to do with long lines at Test Track. Think about it, if they did not have a singles line every car would only contain four riders due to the lack of groups of three. Due to the singles line Test Track can handle nearly 100 more passengers per hour!!!!! Just because they take up a pre show screening room doesn't mean they add to the wait time!!!!:brick: Lets just face it, Test Track is a VERY SLOW loading ride!!!! Personally, the more I ride it the more I realize how much better Mission:Space is!!!!

I'm certainly not saying that the Singles Line is a bad thing and should be removed, BUT the ride was created (if I'm not mistaken) without a Single Riders queue. It was added later, just like Space Mountain. Until recently, during peak periods the Space Mountain Singles Line did not have a seperate queue when you reached the end of the "air ducts". Someone finally managed to wrap the singles line around the normal queue. Many of the SM rockets were leaving the station with only two people with their old Singles Line system. Now that is not occuring with the Single Riders Line wrapping around the main queue.

That being said, there are flaws with the TT singles line that I do not like... I'm not saying the concept is wrong, it's just the delivery. I feel like Single Riders should be sent directly into the loading queue. To the vast majority of the Single Riders the preshow is not important. A cast member at Space Mountain I talked to agreed... most just would like to ride. The two other preshow rooms empty at different times and usually there is little or no single riders wating for boarding. To me, that shouldn't be occuring.

If there we're three theaters again, more riders would be circulated out of the main queue, significantly reducing a rider's perspective of wait times. Then again that's just my opinion, I'm no ride operator.

 

[Testtrack321]

Reasons M:S has shorter lines than TT:

-Capacity. Larger in M:S, but not 2 or 3 times.
-Break downs. When TT breaks down, which is more often than M:S, they must accept all FP for the time missed. This backs up the line a lot.
-Break Downs #2. When M:S breaks down, only 1/4 of the ride is not in operation, compared to the whole ride.
-Scare factor. M:S is advertised as more intense than TT, as such, less of a line.
-Intisement. While the building looks cool, people are drawn to the huge awning and the sound of the cars zooming by TT.

 

[Indy95]

I think if its possible, they should shave a few MPH off the rotation speed of the centrifuge, to slightly soften the G forces experienced. Although, if they do it too much it will seem dull and not much of a thrill, it just needs a slight tweeking. If done right, it will be more enjoyable for those people who don't enjoy the current setup.

They already have. Originally, M:S was producing 3 gs of force, until test audiences unanimously agreed to tone it down, and Disney lowered it to 2.5. It was REALLY intense back then, but what I don't understand is, why isn't there a bathroom next to the drinking fountain at the end of the exit ramp? I'm sure a few people would need it! (And a drinking fountain right outside the two other simulators wouldn't hurt either!)

Each centerfuge has what, like 8 car things, each holding 4 people.

10 cars, 4 people each.

I feel like Single Riders should be sent directly into the loading queue. To the vast majority of the Single Riders the preshow is not important.

But you can't assume that that's the way everyone wants it. How many people in the TT Singles Line have you asked if they wanted to see the preshow or not? The point is, not everyone wants to skip it, so you can't just tailor the experience to some people over others.

As for FP, I just think that the FP and stand-by lines should be split 50/50 instead of 70/30 in favor of FP. Each should get one preshow room at all times. But that's just my opinion.