Mirrorless regrets?

KeithVH

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Anyone here already have an Canon R6mII? My 6DmII lived a full life and has gone to that great darkroom in the sky. I figured the R6 was the next logical successor, especially since I don't think a 6DmIII will ever see the light of day.

What I'm wondering is if anyone changed over to mirrorless FF and then went into regret mode? Especially adapting (in all senses of the word) to a new mount lacking 3rd party support.

I've got a M6mII I toy with but it hasn't been as great as everyone claims they are (at least for me). I know there are a few mirrorless supporters here so would love to hear feedback before I finally pull the trigger.
 

The Colonel

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I know Tom Bricker switched at one point then switched back to mirrorplus. Not sure if he ever made the move to mirrorless after that. I dread changing over so I’m probably going to put it off forever.
 

King Panda 77

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Switched to mirrorless in 2011 and haven't looked back. I would be concerned with no 3rd party lens support if I shot Canon.
That's the only downside I have found with my canon. The compact nature of it when travelling more than makes up for it.
 

senor_jorge

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We have the 1st Gen R6 and R3. The R6 mkII falls somewhere between the two in terms of features and capability. It’s closer to the R3 in capability from what I’ve read. AF is supposed to be about as good as the R3 and it’s fantastic. Resolution is about the same as the R3 at 24ish megapixels. The most common complaint I hear is about the resolution, and what you are left with after cropping and then enlarging. I'll either zoom in with the lens or my feet, but there are times I'd love to have pixels to spare.

Third party support for glass... Allegedly coming, maybe, sometime... Canon has been pretty cryptic, but has said that there will be at least some third party lenses. The interpretations I've heard and read is that lenses will probably be approved on a case by case basis. Far from ideal. We bought the R6 with the expectation that third party lenses were probably a year or so away. We still have some Tamron glass and I expect the 35mm f/1.4 will be in the bag for a long time.

The adapter... It works pretty well. It works better with Canon lenses, with L series being the most consistent. One of the deciding factors for us was the ability to transition to RF gradually, which has worked well for us. Our Tamron lenses tend to have more issues, with the 150-600 G2 having the most and pretty much living on the 70D crop censor for wildlife photography. AF wigged out one too many times at a critical moment. The 35mm has been pretty foolproof. With larger lenses I don't love the balance with the adapter pushing the weight further out from the body. That's more noticeable with the R6 than R3. The adapter works, and it has allowed us to gradually transition. That 35mm Tamron will be in my bag, until I dig dip enough to replace it with a f/1.2 from Canon, and then the adapter probably goes away.

Canon RF glass is the second factor that kept me from pulling the trigger on a Sony a7. Sorry @fractal. It's nice. Really nice. Unfortunately it's priced like it too(EDIT: Meaning Canon glass, not the Sony a7. I don't want to draw the wrath out of @fractal ). That being said, I've been more willing to invest in L series gear for RF than than EF. We've been selective, and by checking the Canon refurb page regularly have found some great deals (I still credit/blame you for the 100mm macro we now have). The optical quality is just better generally. The weight is usually reduced. In the first year to 18 months we had the R6 I still had moments when I'd consider switching to a Sony a7, usually due to all of those lovely megapixels, LOL. In the end it was the RF glass that existed and that has continued to roll out. I'm anxiously waiting for our 10-20mm f/2.8 to arrive.

As for switching to mirrorless in general? Zero regrets. Years ago I shot a LOT of film using Nikon and Contax/Zeiss gear, then, didn't pick up a camera until my wife picked it up as a hobby. I dabbled some with her 70D. Mirrorless drew me back in. It's lighter, more compact, and at this point the image in the viewfinder is really good. If I'm on the fence about changing my aperture a stop or not I can see the difference immediately and make a choice just about as quickly. In low light, and low shutter speeds I don't have to worry about the mirror, or lock it up. It is different, and I did have to adjust some but the benefits outweigh the negatives for me. Finally... the EF ecosystem just isn't going to get any better. Development has stopped.

Sorry about the length! All of the above is just my opinion, and worth exactly what you've paid for it. If you have any specific questions feel free to ask.
 
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KeithVH

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Thank you so much for the detailed reply! That's exactly the kind of info I was looking for.

Yes, using an adapter does concern me but I will take a look at the refurb glass page. Just never thought about those before. For me, it's my 70-200 that's always on one body or another with a super WA on the other. Adding a refurb RF14-35L to my kit might be just what I'm looking for.

Your comments on the sensor do give me some pause. With 33mp on the M6mII, I do feel that extra luxury to crop sometimes. But I really miss having a fullframe body. Most of what I shoot would fall into the nature/landscape category and my prints are usually 16x24 (maybe a very few 20x30). Difficult to evaluate yet but I think I'll have to run some quick tests soon as the box arrives. I can then make an informed choice whether to return (for what, an R7?:mad:) or not.

But I think if I had a real worry it would be the body itself. Shooting with the M6mII and my stubby, fat-fingered hands can be a challenge. I do well with the xxD bodies, especially with the battery pack on the bottom. I'm thinking that will definitely be a help with the R6 to give the body some heft and me something to grab on to.

What makes me sad is your comment of EF going forward. I know, I know. I've probably been in denial for the better part of two years now but that writing is on the wall. Shoot, I'd still love to shoot some slides with my Elan 7 but finding a decent E6 lab that won't break the bank is a challenge. I guess it is time to keep moving forward with a new body.
 

senor_jorge

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If resolution is an issue and you want to stick with Canon I’d look at the R5 for a full frame option or R7 for a crop censor.

The R3 feels better in my hand but no issues with the R6, and there are times the smaller size is nice. A battery grip is on the list, but it keeps getting bumped down as other needs and wants come up.
 

KeithVH

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I gotta admit, I'm fairly sure the R5, for me, isn't worth the cost. 10 years ago, sure. But my 1D/5D combo at that time did all I ever needed whether it was sports or anything else. They allowed me to make money but since I don't do that anymore, my requirements and justifications have seriously changed. I think I'll pull the trigger on the R6 real soon. Unless I convince myself to wait for Black Friday (just in case).
 

senor_jorge

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I gotta admit, I'm fairly sure the R5, for me, isn't worth the cost. 10 years ago, sure. But my 1D/5D combo at that time did all I ever needed whether it was sports or anything else. They allowed me to make money but since I don't do that anymore, my requirements and justifications have seriously changed. I think I'll pull the trigger on the R6 real soon. Unless I convince myself to wait for Black Friday (just in case).

Keep an eye on the Canon site. Between a Canon rebate and a cash back deal from Rakuten we saved a little over 25% on our R3. Not sure if that will happen again or what the savings were on other bodies. I think it applied to CarePak as well but not certain.
 

KeithVH

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Thanks for that pointer. You're right, doubtful about DSLR discounts right now but who knows?
 

KeithVH

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Will have my R6 and 14-35L by Wednesday! Free 2-day shipping thanks to Canon. Plus the $800 off the bundle makes a great early present. 10% state tax was the Grinch in this scenario though.

If anyone has questions about it, post and I'll be happy to share my experience after unboxing.
 

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