Its being reported by man outlets that Miramax Films will be shut down today. The LA and NYC offices will be shutting down.
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EPCOT Explorer
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Odd...Anyone know why?
jt04
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The question is why did Disney foray into this in the first place. I think of it as correcting one of the Eisner era mistakes. Not that there were an overwhrlming ammount
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Now if we could just get rid of Communicore clutter and the BAH, everything will be fixed.
unkadug
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Sure, any division of Disney that brings critical acclaim, Academy Awards and much publicity from people who wouldn't normally foray into into the Disney realm is always a bad thing and an obvious mistake that should be corrected.
Studios Fan
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There is talk of them selling the Miramax name and tape library. While I would not want to see it happen it would be smart of them to use the money they make to buy up some of the rights to the Marvel characters at other studios.
jt04
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Of course they would reward Disney for getting away from the core audience it was built on. Hollywood never much liked Disney content, or even Walt. You know, all that patriotism and pro-American 'tude.
Miramax may have won some awards but honestly, anything they put out with an R rating was destined to win accolades and praise.
I wasn't impressed by a single Disney/Miramax project. Not one. Not even Pulp Fiction or Goodwill or Halloween:The Curse of Mike Meyers.:lol: I actually feel sorry for people who were raised on 90's era Hollywood overrated crap. But it was the "Clinton Decade". Unfortunately things have not improved much.......yet. :animwink:
PS- I'm not trying to be provocative. Just speaking truth.
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Chicago was overrated crap?
Since you don't care for mature movie matter, perhaps the line of films made by Miramax Family Films might entertain you:
- My Scene Goes Hollywood: The Movie (2005)
- Beyblade The Movie Fierce Battle (2005)
- Pokémon: Destiny Deoxys (2005)
- Chestnut: Hero of Central Park (2004) (DVD only)
- In Search of Santa (2004)
- The Adventures of Tom Thumb and Thumbelina (2002)
- The Best of Tokyo Pig (2002)
- The Toys Who Saved Christmas (1997)
- Hugo The Movie Star (1996)
- Gordy (1995)
- The Thief and the Cobbler (1995)
- The NeverEnding Story III: Escape from Fantasia (1994)
- Care Bears Movie II: A New Generation
- Tom and Jerry: The Movie (1993)
- Freddie as F.R.O.7 (1992)
lebeau
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jt proved to me in the Spider-man thread that he knows absolutely nothing about the film business.
(By the way, Halloween, Scream, and a bunch of other successful horror films in the 90s were released by Dimension which was a division of Miramax. Kind of like Miramax is a division of Disney. Dimension Films also released the successful and critically acclaimed Spy Kids series. Just FYI.)
At one point, Miramax was lightning in a bottle. In the 90s, they made Disney relevant when most of Disney's live action films were going no where. Miramax was money in the bank at awards time. And they had a fantastic track record at the box office for a long time.
Everyone was fat and happy. Unfortunately, Harvey Weinstein let success go to his head. (Meanwhile, I think the same was happening with Michael Eisner.) Harvey and Eisner started to clash about creative issues and budgets. Harvey generally got his way until his winning streak dried up.
Eventually, things came to a head and Eisner and the Weinsteins parted ways. It was a messy divorce around the same time as Pixar was threatening to end it's partnership with Disney. The break with the Weinsteins was one of the straws that lead to Eisner's eventual downfall as CEO. (It seemed to many that Eisner couldn't play nice with anybody.)
Disney retained the Miramax name and library. But the magic was gone without the Weinsteins. Plus, Harvey took most of Miramax's talent pool with him when he left to found The Weinstein Company.
Today, Mirmax is really nothing more than a film library. The art house scene from the 90s is largely dead. And the talent that put the company on the map is gone. There's no real reason to keep Miramax operating.
The Weinstein Co has struggled since parting ways with Disney. But they have had some successes. Most recently, Inglorious ________________ performed surprisingly well at the box office, won some awards and garnered mostly positive review. On the other hand, Rob Zombie's Halloween sequel was a pretty major disappointment.
Personally, I'm a little sad to see Miramax go because I miss the hey days of the 90s art house scene. Miramax lead the way through a glorious (albiet brief) period in film history.
Realistically, Miramax died a long time ago. It ceased to be a true powerhouse even before Disney and the Weinsteins parted ways. But they may as well have closed shop when the Weinsteins left.
(By the way, Halloween, Scream, and a bunch of other successful horror films in the 90s were released by Dimension which was a division of Miramax. Kind of like Miramax is a division of Disney. Dimension Films also released the successful and critically acclaimed Spy Kids series. Just FYI.)
At one point, Miramax was lightning in a bottle. In the 90s, they made Disney relevant when most of Disney's live action films were going no where. Miramax was money in the bank at awards time. And they had a fantastic track record at the box office for a long time.
Everyone was fat and happy. Unfortunately, Harvey Weinstein let success go to his head. (Meanwhile, I think the same was happening with Michael Eisner.) Harvey and Eisner started to clash about creative issues and budgets. Harvey generally got his way until his winning streak dried up.
Eventually, things came to a head and Eisner and the Weinsteins parted ways. It was a messy divorce around the same time as Pixar was threatening to end it's partnership with Disney. The break with the Weinsteins was one of the straws that lead to Eisner's eventual downfall as CEO. (It seemed to many that Eisner couldn't play nice with anybody.)
Disney retained the Miramax name and library. But the magic was gone without the Weinsteins. Plus, Harvey took most of Miramax's talent pool with him when he left to found The Weinstein Company.
Today, Mirmax is really nothing more than a film library. The art house scene from the 90s is largely dead. And the talent that put the company on the map is gone. There's no real reason to keep Miramax operating.
The Weinstein Co has struggled since parting ways with Disney. But they have had some successes. Most recently, Inglorious ________________ performed surprisingly well at the box office, won some awards and garnered mostly positive review. On the other hand, Rob Zombie's Halloween sequel was a pretty major disappointment.
Personally, I'm a little sad to see Miramax go because I miss the hey days of the 90s art house scene. Miramax lead the way through a glorious (albiet brief) period in film history.
Realistically, Miramax died a long time ago. It ceased to be a true powerhouse even before Disney and the Weinsteins parted ways. But they may as well have closed shop when the Weinsteins left.
lebeau
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It sure was. Disney put out a lot of edgy, sophisticated fare in the 90s. Just about all of it came from Miramax.
Most of the live action Disney films that didn't come from Miramax during that decade were mediocre pap.
jt04
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I don't care for over-rated crap no matter what audience it is targeting. Your list only makes my point. :lol:
jt04
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I noticed you didn't provide a list of "glorious" examples to back your claim. See, if you don't say you appreciate their output you are deemed to be unsophisticated and not hip. All I need to know about the "busimess" is what I think as a consumer. And Miramax produced entirely over-rated material that largely appealed only to the "elite". Or so we are told.
Pulp was actually on TV last night. I decided to give it another try. It is a shining example of how Jackson can carry a project no matter how weak it is. But I still couldn't get through the first half hour. And, yes, I get the concept. But QT is truly just hype with little substance. Just like most of the 1990's pop culture icons. It was just a dismal decade.
lebeau
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Nice catch on my typo. Clearly, that invalidates everything I said.
Your willingness to dismiss an entire decade kind of makes my point for me. But I'll play along.
You want a list? Okay. Here's the highlights:
1989
______, Lies, and Video Tape - Three awards at Cannes film festival including Palme d'Or and Best Actor (for James Spader) At Sundance, winner of the Audience Award. Steven Soderbergh was nominated for Best Screenplay at the Academy Awards. In 2006, ______, Lies, and Videotape was selected and preserved by the United States National Film Registry as being deemed "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant."
My Left Foot - 5 Oscar nods. Won Best Actor (Daniel Day Lewis) and Best Supporting Actress (Brenda Fricker). BAFTA Film Award for Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor (Ray McAnally) European Film Awards for Best Actor. Golden Clobes for Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor. Plus Independent Spirit Awards, London Film Critics Awards, Los Angeles Film Critics Awards, National Film Critics Awards, New York Film Critics Awards and Writers Guild of America Awards.
1990
The Grifters - 4 Academy Awards noms: Best Director, Best Actress, Best Supprting Actress and Best Adapted Screenplay. BAFTA nomination for Bening. Golden Clobe nomination for Huston. National Society of Film Critics Awards for both Bening and Huston. Best Screenplay nom for WGA Awards.
1992
Bob Roberts - No major awards. But a critical and fincancial success.
Enchanted April - Golden Globes for Best Actress (Miranda Richardson) and Best Supporting Actress (Joan Plowright). Golden Globe nomination for Best Picture. Academy Award nominations for Best Screenplay, Best Supporting Actress and Best Costume Design.
Reservoir Dogs - Again, no major awards. (It was screened out of competition at the 1992 Cannes Film Festival.) But a huge critical and financial success. Empire Magazine named it the "Greatest Independent Film ever made". Unquestionably, one of the most influential films of the 90s.
The Crying Game - Nominated for 6 Acaemy Awards including Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor and Best Screenplay which it won.
1993 - Acquired by Disney
The Piano - Nominated for 8 Academy Awards. Won Best Actress (Holly Hunter), Best Screenplay and Best Supporting Actress (Anna Paquin). Won Golden Palm and Best Actress at the Cannes Film Festival. Won Best Foreign Film at the Cesar Awards. Won 3 BAFTA Awards including Best Actress. Golden Globe for Best Actress. Plus dozens of film critics awards.
1994
Bullets Over Broadway - 7 Academy Award nominations and a win for Best Supporting Actress (Dianne Wiest)
Clerks - No major awards, but a critical and financial hit. Launched Kevin Smith's career.
The Crow (through Dimension Films) - No major awards, but a critical and financial hit.
Pret-a-Porter (Ready to Wear) - National Board of Review Award for Best Acting by an Enseble. Golden Globe nominations for Best Picture and Best Actress (Sophia Loren)
Pulp Fiction - Arguably the most influential movie of the decade in spite of losing Best Picture at the Academy Awards to Gump. Seven Academy Award Nominations. Won only Best Screenplay. Awards for Best Picture and Best Director from the National Society of Film Critics, National Board of Reviews, Los Angeles Film Critics Association, Boston Scoiety of Flim Critics, Southeastern Film Critics Association and more.
1995
Halloween : The Curse of Michael Myers - No awards obviously. Not a critical favorite. But a big box office hit.
Mighty Aphrodite - 2 Academy Award nominations. Won Best Supporting Actress (Mira Sorvino). Golden Globe for Best Supporting Actress. Oh heck, Mira Sorvino won over a dozen awards for Best Supporting Actress in this movie.
Muriel's Wedding - Won 4 Australia Film Institute Awards with an additional 4 nominations. A handful of additional international awards and a Golden Globe for Best Actress (Toni Collette).
The Crossing Guard - Nominations for Best Supporting Actress (Angelica Huston) from Hollywood Foreign Press, Screen Actors Guild and Golden Globes.
I'm going to have to come back for 1996 and beyond. Have fun searching for typos. I'm sure they are there to be found.
lebeau
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I just re-read this. You couldn't get through the first half-hour of Pulp Fiction?!? I'll agree the movie sags a little in spots. But if you couldn't even make it through the first half hour, I'm done with you. You're clearly not interested in giving the movie a fair viewing.
You can dismiss a decade's worth of awards as "elitist" if you want to. Fine. That says more about you than it does about Miramax's output in its hey day.
But it is indisputable that Miramax was a force to be reconned with during the 1990s. Other studios were jealous of the awards success (some even cried foul that Miramax lobbied too hard for awards) and their financial track record. Dimension produced popular fare that would not have been appropriate under the Disney banner. And the company lead the way in a cultural film revolution that sadly is no more.
Nice catch on my typo. Clearly, that invalidates everything I said.
Your willingness to dismiss an entire decade kind of makes my point for me. But I'll play along.
You want a list? Okay. Here's the highlights:
1989
______, Lies, and Video Tape - Three awards at Cannes film festival including Palme d'Or and Best Actor (for James Spader) At Sundance, winner of the Audience Award. Steven Soderbergh was nominated for Best Screenplay at the Academy Awards. In 2006, ______, Lies, and Videotape was selected and preserved by the United States National Film Registry as being deemed "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant."
My Left Foot - 5 Oscar nods. Won Best Actor (Daniel Day Lewis) and Best Supporting Actress (Brenda Fricker). BAFTA Film Award for Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor (Ray McAnally) European Film Awards for Best Actor. Golden Clobes for Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor. Plus Independent Spirit Awards, London Film Critics Awards, Los Angeles Film Critics Awards, National Film Critics Awards, New York Film Critics Awards and Writers Guild of America Awards.
1990
The Grifters - 4 Academy Awards noms: Best Director, Best Actress, Best Supprting Actress and Best Adapted Screenplay. BAFTA nomination for Bening. Golden Clobe nomination for Huston. National Society of Film Critics Awards for both Bening and Huston. Best Screenplay nom for WGA Awards.
1992
Bob Roberts - No major awards. But a critical and fincancial success.
Enchanted April - Golden Globes for Best Actress (Miranda Richardson) and Best Supporting Actress (Joan Plowright). Golden Globe nomination for Best Picture. Academy Award nominations for Best Screenplay, Best Supporting Actress and Best Costume Design.
Reservoir Dogs - Again, no major awards. (It was screened out of competition at the 1992 Cannes Film Festival.) But a huge critical and financial success. Empire Magazine named it the "Greatest Independent Film ever made". Unquestionably, one of the most influential films of the 90s.
The Crying Game - Nominated for 6 Acaemy Awards including Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor, Best Supporting Actor and Best Screenplay which it won.
1993 - Acquired by Disney
The Piano - Nominated for 8 Academy Awards. Won Best Actress (Holly Hunter), Best Screenplay and Best Supporting Actress (Anna Paquin). Won Golden Palm and Best Actress at the Cannes Film Festival. Won Best Foreign Film at the Cesar Awards. Won 3 BAFTA Awards including Best Actress. Golden Globe for Best Actress. Plus dozens of film critics awards.
1994
Bullets Over Broadway - 7 Academy Award nominations and a win for Best Supporting Actress (Dianne Wiest)
Clerks - No major awards, but a critical and financial hit. Launched Kevin Smith's career.
The Crow (through Dimension Films) - No major awards, but a critical and financial hit.
Pret-a-Porter (Ready to Wear) - National Board of Review Award for Best Acting by an Enseble. Golden Globe nominations for Best Picture and Best Actress (Sophia Loren)
Pulp Fiction - Arguably the most influential movie of the decade in spite of losing Best Picture at the Academy Awards to Gump. Seven Academy Award Nominations. Won only Best Screenplay. Awards for Best Picture and Best Director from the National Society of Film Critics, National Board of Reviews, Los Angeles Film Critics Association, Boston Scoiety of Flim Critics, Southeastern Film Critics Association and more.
1995
Halloween : The Curse of Michael Myers - No awards obviously. Not a critical favorite. But a big box office hit.
Mighty Aphrodite - 2 Academy Award nominations. Won Best Supporting Actress (Mira Sorvino). Golden Globe for Best Supporting Actress. Oh heck, Mira Sorvino won over a dozen awards for Best Supporting Actress in this movie.
Muriel's Wedding - Won 4 Australia Film Institute Awards with an additional 4 nominations. A handful of additional international awards and a Golden Globe for Best Actress (Toni Collette).
The Crossing Guard - Nominations for Best Supporting Actress (Angelica Huston) from Hollywood Foreign Press, Screen Actors Guild and Golden Globes.
I'm going to have to come back for 1996 and beyond. Have fun searching for typos. I'm sure they are there to be found.
The only year that you can consider with Disney's involvement is 1995, possibly some of the 94 releases. Everything else would have been in production before Disney's purchase.
I've heard of only 2 of these movies (Tom Thumb and Gordy).
I am familiar with the brand of 3 others. Tom and Jerry and Care Bears as well as the NeverEnding Story - but had no idea there was a 3rd movie.
lebeau
Well-Known Member
I'm making a point about Miramax's contribution to film, not Disney.
If someone wanted to argue that Disney overpaid for Miramax or that the partnership ultimately was more beneficial to the Weinsteins than Disney, I would agree. But that doesn't change the fact that Miramax was once a great studio. Their films had a huge impact on the industry.
I may have spoke too soon everyone. Apparently, all Disney did was shut down the LA and NYC offices. Miramax will still exist and the remaining employees will movie to Disney Headquarters in Burbank.
I guess this makes sense. Cut your costs and keep the brand at the headquarters.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/35146632/site/14081545/for/cnbc/
I guess this makes sense. Cut your costs and keep the brand at the headquarters.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/35146632/site/14081545/for/cnbc/
lebeau
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And here I was eulogizing them.
Oh well, like I said before they really died for all intents and purposes several years ago.