Miramax Dead

imagineer boy

imagineer boy

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lebeau said:
I just re-read this. You couldn't get through the first half-hour of Pulp Fiction?!? I'll agree the movie sags a little in spots. But if you couldn't even make it through the first half hour, I'm done with you. You're clearly not interested in giving the movie a fair viewing.

You can dismiss a decade's worth of awards as "elitist" if you want to. Fine. That says more about you than it does about Miramax's output in its hey day.

But it is indisputable that Miramax was a force to be reconned with during the 1990s. Other studios were jealous of the awards success (some even cried foul that Miramax lobbied too hard for awards) and their financial track record. Dimension produced popular fare that would not have been appropriate under the Disney banner. And the company lead the way in a cultural film revolution that sadly is no more.
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Relax, this is jt you're talking to here. Just put that into perspective.:lol:
 
jt04

jt04

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lebeau said:
I just re-read this. You couldn't get through the first half-hour of Pulp Fiction?!? I'll agree the movie sags a little in spots. But if you couldn't even make it through the first half hour, I'm done with you. You're clearly not interested in giving the movie a fair viewing.

You can dismiss a decade's worth of awards as "elitist" if you want to. Fine. That says more about you than it does about Miramax's output in its hey day.

But it is indisputable that Miramax was a force to be reconned with during the 1990s. Other studios were jealous of the awards success (some even cried foul that Miramax lobbied too hard for awards) and their financial track record. Dimension produced popular fare that would not have been appropriate under the Disney banner. And the company lead the way in a cultural film revolution that sadly is no more.
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Ummm, I was already tricked into watching PF previouly. That is why I said I was going to give it another try. I disliked it the first time. And after a short period of time I decided it was still over-rated bilge. Except for SJ's acting. That is excellent.

As for citing all the awards won, will let me try to give you my take.

The awards are almost always by and for people in the industry. (It's a community unto itself with rare exceptions.) Or by polls made up largely of people who buy into the Hollywood "brand", hook, line and sinker. Most folks are of a herd mentality and if they are told something is cool or hip or only appreciated by those with more sophisticated tastes or higher intellect, they will say they like it. Because nobody wants to be thought of as un-cool, un-hip, unsophisticated or even stupid. When in fact all they have done is gotten suckered in by very sophisticated marketing.

I admit I have not seen every movie on your list and some I might like. But I can say with 100% certainty that I have never seen a Miramax film and felt I was better off for it. I always regretted it. I always felt like I had lost more than I had gained from the experience.

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lebeau

lebeau

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You're entitled to your opinion on PF of course. And you could make an argument for it being over-rated. But to dismiss it as a work of cinematic art just shows a lack of appreciation on your part. Whether you like a movie or not is a matter of personal preference. But even if you don't like Pulp Fiction, you have to appreciate the fine craftsmanship.


<O:p</O:pPersonally, I can't sit through 2001. I know it had a huge cultural impact when it was released. I've read all of the reviews of how mind-blowing it is. But as a viewer who got to the party after the zeitgeist had passed, 2001 leaves me cold. (Which is weird because I love most of Kubrick's films.) However, even though I consider it somewhat over-rated, there's no denying that it is a beautifully made movie and that it's influence is still being felt today.

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lebeau

lebeau

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Miramax was a movie studio. And like any other studio, they made some good films, some okay films and some bad ones too. Which films are which is a matter of opinion. So when it comes to measuring the success of a film studio, the most objective way to do so is to look at things that are measurable. Things like box office performance, critical reception and award nominations and wins. Few studios in the history of film have ever had the financial and critical success that Miramax had in its day.

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Saying that you don’t like Miramax movies (or the movies of any film studio) really just reflects badly on you. Yes, Miramax had a house style. But it put out so many movies of various genres and styles, you might as well just say you don’t like movies.

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It seems to me that you have labeled Miramax as some haven for the cultural elite. And you take a perverse pride in looking down your nose at those you believe are looking down their noses at you. But what Miramax actually did was bring art house sensibilities into the main stream. By and large, they made movies that appealed to a mass audience. Not just the New Yorker crowd.


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Really, it just sounds to me like you need to watch some more movies. Watch them with an open mind. I’m happy to provide some suggestions if you want. Other than Disney animated features, what kinds of movies do you like? We can start there and branch out.
 
trr1

trr1

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found here
http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net...max-offices-close-Disney-says-brand-continues
Miramax offices close, Disney says brand continues



Associated Press
First Posted 15:30:00 01/30/2010

Filed Under: Entertainment (general), Cinema


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<!-- End Most Read Plugin -->LOS ANGELES—Some offices of award-winning Miramax [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]Films[/COLOR][/COLOR] closed this week, but owner Walt [COLOR=blue !important][COLOR=blue !important]Disney[/COLOR][/COLOR] Co. says the brand will continue to exist.
A Miramax employee sent out an e-mail this week saying Miramax offices will be closed as of Friday. The e-mail directed all inquiries for upcoming Miramax projects to a Disney employee.
The offices' closure was in line with plans announced in October to slash Miramax's movie production to three per year, down from six to eight, and eliminate 50 jobs in New York and Los Angeles.
Some 20 employees that remained, mostly at the New York headquarters, were asked to move to Disney's headquarters in Burbank.
Disney confirmed it has six Miramax films to be distributed through 2011, including "The Baster" and "The Debt" set for this fall.
 

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