Millenium Falcon Smugglers Run queue drainage issue

[lazyboy97o]

The problem there wasn’t the designers it was the contractors.

The architect and plumbing engineer choose the outlet locations and are responsible for coordination with the civil engineer. This is only a contractor issue if they obstructed the primary drain or improperly graded the hardscape. Even then, the designers chose to outflow right into the queue.

 

[ToTBellHop]

The architect and plumbing engineer choose the outlet locations and are responsible for coordination with the civil engineer. This is only a contractor issue if they obstructed the primary drain or improperly graded the hardscape. Even then, the designers chose to outflow right into the queue.

Maybe it’s the same team who forgot Toy Story Land was in Florida.

 

[peter11435]

The architect and plumbing engineer choose the outlet locations and are responsible for coordination with the civil engineer. This is only a contractor issue if they obstructed the primary drain or improperly graded the hardscape. Even then, the designers chose to outflow right into the queue.

Correct. I was referring to the issue at Dumbo.

 

[KBLovedDisney]

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[lazyboy97o]

Maybe it’s the same team who forgot Toy Story Land was in Florida.

This is not really an issue of heavy rainfall. Even in a deluge this drain should only have a small amount of water being discharged.

Correct. I was referring to the issue at Dumbo.

Gotcha.

 

[Stripes]

This is not really an issue of heavy rainfall. Even in a deluge this drain should only have a small amount of water being discharged.

So, was this an accident/malfunction, or should we expect this to happen every time a storm says hi?

 

[Bocabear]

Well....who ever thought there would be heavy rain in Florida? LOL

 

[MisterPenguin]

Well....who ever thought there would be heavy rain in Florida? LOL

In heavy rain, isn't there a few inches of water everywhere anyway?

 

[Goofyernmost]

Well....who ever thought there would be heavy rain in Florida? LOL

Why would they be concerned about that? This whole land is located on the Galaxy's Edge. They should have sent Jim Cantore there to find out what average rainfall should be expected.

 

[ppet]

I'm only worried if a one eyed monster pops up.

 

[lazyboy97o]

So, was this an accident/malfunction, or should we expect this to happen every time a storm says hi?

This should not happen every time it storms. You are required to have two drains, a primary drain and an overflow drain. The overflow drain is required to be a few inches above the primary drain and discharge in an easily visible manner so that someone can see that the primary drain is obstructed and water is collecting on the roof. If this is an overflow drain then whatever is obstructing the primary drain needs to be corrected. It could many things from just being clogged or covered, or it could even an installation error.

 

[Bob Harlem]

The new story story mania entrance also has this problem in heavy rain.

 

[Janir]

Maybe it’s the same team who forgot Toy Story Land was in Florida.

My understanding in general why SWGE in DHS is opening later is that they took the plans from CA and as they were implementing, they realized there had to be some changes for the FL location that was not accounted for. this might be another such situation?
Overall, who in the heck opens a rain drainage into a ride queue line of any sort? It wouldn't have been that much more to have the drainage go a few inches deeper and then UNDER the ride queue walkway and drain PAST the queue?

 

[roj2323]

While flooding in DHS is not a new thing (hello Hyperion Theater and Echo Lake area) during heavy rains this will have to be addressed as it's a pretty significant safety issue. There's a few ways to go about fixing this but none of them are really a quick fix. The best way would be to redirect the drainage pipe from the roof to the non guest area side of the building but none of us really have any idea of what kind of access they have to make such a change. A second option is to extend the drain and make it part of the theming, running it along the ground to a place where it can be dropped into a catchment basin but that would require both ADA compliant ramps to be built over the pipe as well as trench work for the basin side. A third option is to just block off the drain but I don't think the building roof is properly setup to redirect the water and the drains likely are not large enough to handle the extra flow.

 

[lazyboy97o]

My understanding in general why SWGE in DHS is opening later is that they took the plans from CA and as they were implementing, they realized there had to be some changes for the FL location that was not accounted for. this might be another such situation?
Overall, who in the heck opens a rain drainage into a ride queue line of any sort? It wouldn't have been that much more to have the drainage go a few inches deeper and then UNDER the ride queue walkway and drain PAST the queue?

While flooding in DHS is not a new thing (hello Hyperion Theater and Echo Lake area) during heavy rains this will have to be addressed as it's a pretty significant safety issue. There's a few ways to go about fixing this but none of them are really a quick fix. The best way would be to redirect the drainage pipe from the roof to the non guest area side of the building but none of us really have any idea of what kind of access they have to make such a change. A second option is to extend the drain and make it part of the theming, running it along the ground to a place where it can be dropped into a catchment basin but that would require both ADA compliant ramps to be built over the pipe as well as trench work for the basin side. A third option is to just block off the drain but I don't think the building roof is properly setup to redirect the water and the drains likely are not large enough to handle the extra flow.

This is all assuming that this is a primary drain. In the parks those typically drain directly into the storm sewer. Secondary drains must discharge above grade.

 

[roj2323]

This is all assuming that this is a primary drain. In the parks those typically drain directly into the storm sewer. Secondary drains must discharge above grade.

This building probably has 20-30 drains of this size. You got to remember this is Florida and inches of rain in minutes is extremely common. The storm sewer system in WDW is good but the water has to be able to get to it first and this was a major screw up by someone.

 

[lazyboy97o]

This building probably has 20-30 drains of this size. You got to remember this is Florida and inches of rain in minutes is extremely common. The storm sewer system in WDW is good but the water has to be able to get to it first and this was a major screw up by someone.

You’re still assuming this is a primary drain. New primary drains typically connect directly to the storm sewer, so they do not spill out onto hardscape like this. If it is an overflow drain then it should only have water flowing into it if the primary drain is obstructed and water has collected on the roof (typically 2” - 4”). Even in a Florida storm that amount of water should not be collecting on a roof with regularity.

 

[Crazydisneyfanluke]

While flooding in DHS is not a new thing (hello Hyperion Theater and Echo Lake area) during heavy rains this will have to be addressed as it's a pretty significant safety issue. There's a few ways to go about fixing this but none of them are really a quick fix. The best way would be to redirect the drainage pipe from the roof to the non guest area side of the building but none of us really have any idea of what kind of access they have to make such a change. A second option is to extend the drain and make it part of the theming, running it along the ground to a place where it can be dropped into a catchment basin but that would require both ADA compliant ramps to be built over the pipe as well as trench work for the basin side. A third option is to just block off the drain but I don't think the building roof is properly setup to redirect the water and the drains likely are not large enough to handle the extra flow.

Or they could redsign the barriers to allow the flow of water... ofcourse a temporary fix while the primary discharge is investigated.

 

[voodoo321]

You left me in the Mulinimum Falcom Snuggle of Fun line Gilbert. I could've drownded!

 

[T.Will]

Forgetting about Florida rain is an Imagineering tradition since 1971.