Mikey visits WDW

[HennieBogan1966]

Just some thoughts

First of all, Hey there Grizz. Hadn't heard back from you yet on your project you mentioned a few weeks ago, but I'm ready and available. Now on to the subject at hand.

Let me say that Grizz and I agree most of the time on these issues, as we do here. While it's good that Mr. Eisner visited the parks, I find it puzzling that it took him 5 days to make it there. I don't find it puzzling that he visited on the heels of Disney announcing their support of relief efforts in the area. Ever the politician, he took full advantage of a photo op and some glad-handing to stoke the spirits of the troops. I commend him for showing, but I find the timing awfully peculiar.

On another subject within this vortex is the philosophy of Mr. Eisner. Needless to say, I don't agree with his methods. His cutting back of payroll, trimming full time, and long time part time cms to replace them with rookies is a bad business decision. On top of that, there has been a decline in the quality of service within the parks and resorts. We have experienced this on our last couple of visits over the last 3 years. And make no mistake, he is the man calling the shots on these issues. No one below him has carte blanche without his knowledge, even though I'm sure that would be his claim.

And it's true that most of the kids today don't care about the history and heritage of the company. Therefore, they aren't going to take the same pride in their work as others might. In addition, they are going to be more interested in the paycheck than the overall health of the company or the quality of show.

Until these philosophies change, the direction won't change. That's only going to change with a change in leadership.

 

[syddisney]

I wonder who put him to it, or how much extra $ he is getting. lol :lol:

 

[Dizknee_Phreek]

What took him so long? He should have been there the day after, not 5 days after!
But, at least it was nice of him to take time out of his ::busy:: schedule for a little CM contact.

yeah, but it's a shame it took a hurricane to make him finally spend a little one-on-one time with the CMs (which, as wannab@dis stated, i'm sure were selected CMs)

 

[wild01ride]

I think the reason it took him so long to make it out was because the golf courses hadn't been open until then. Until the courses opened back up, he had no real reason to visit. (It seems that in the picture he's already dressed to hit the fairways!)

 

[imagineer99]

I think the reason it took him so long to make it out was because the golf courses hadn't been open until then. Until the courses opened back up, he had no real reason to visit. (It seems that in the picture he's already dressed to hit the fairways!)

Ok...I know I'm gonna get flak for this (Hello Negative rep. points).

But a lot of comments on this thread are just mean to be mean.

Let me see...we are criticizing Eisner for showing support for WDW? His visit was actually a GOOD move. I know that a lot of people can't accept the fact that Eisner is not Satan's spawn, but he is not the tyrant that everyone makes him out to be.

I understand the man is not liked (personally I don't agree with a lot of management at Disney), however his visit was a CLASSY move. He did the right thing, plain and simple (I would've done the same in his position).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not downgrading Eisner's failures in leadership (budget cuts, layoffs, etc.), but have we gotten to the point where we pick on him for wearing a golf shirt?

People complain about him being five days late. This is an unfair criticism. I know it may be hard to believe for some, but I guarantee that Eisner doesn't spend the majority of his days tanning himself in Fiji while cooling off in a bath tub filled with money. He IS a busy man. I can understand dissent over his business decisions, but saying that he arrived in WDW just for money is a really careless joke. Not to mention the difficulty of actually traveling to an area that was very hard hit by a devastating storm.

It has become very easy to sit behind a keyboard and point fingers at Eisner. After all, he is the figurehead of such a popular corporation. In fact, it seems that as of late on wdwmagic.com, it has become a competition on who can "zing" Eisner the best.

In summation, I don't support Michael Eisner. However, I also will never condone these petty comments against him (especially when he does make a GOOD decision).

Frankly, if any of us were put in Eisner's position, I guarantee the company would be bankrupt before the end of the week. People are so quick to criticize, but when they are pressed for REAL solutions, pointing to a savedisney website just doesn't cut it.

Eisner's not to blame for every miniscule problem in our lives. Don't turn something harmless into a storm.

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[ogryn]

... and if Eisner hadn't have visited, peeps would have been jumping down his throat as well. The man can't win!

 

[jcarriv]

Ok...I know I'm gonna get flak for this (Hello Negative rep. points).

But a lot of comments on this thread are just mean to be mean.

Let me see...we are criticizing Eisner for showing support for WDW? His visit was actually a GOOD move. I know that a lot of people can't accept the fact that Eisner is not Satan's spawn, but he is not the tyrant that everyone makes him out to be.

I understand the man is not liked (personally I don't agree with a lot of management at Disney), however his visit was a CLASSY move. He did the right thing, plain and simple (I would've done the same in his position).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not downgrading Eisner's failures in leadership (budget cuts, layoffs, etc.), but have we gotten to the point where we pick on him for wearing a golf shirt?

People complain about him being five days late. This is an unfair criticism. I know it may be hard to believe for some, but I guarantee that Eisner doesn't spend the majority of his days tanning himself in Fiji while cooling off in a bath tub filled with money. He IS a busy man. I can understand dissent over his business decisions, but saying that he arrived in WDW just for money is a really careless joke. Not to mention the difficulty of actually traveling to an area that was very hard hit by a devastating storm.

It has become very easy to sit behind a keyboard and point fingers at Eisner. After all, he is the figurehead of such a popular corporation. In fact, it seems that as of late on wdwmagic.com, it has become a competition on who can "zing" Eisner the best.

In summation, I don't support Michael Eisner. However, I also will never condone these petty comments against him (especially when he does make a GOOD decision).

Frankly, if any of us were put in Eisner's position, I guarantee the company would be bankrupt before the end of the week. People are so quick to criticize, but when they are pressed for REAL solutions, pointing to a savedisney website just doesn't cut it.

Eisner's not to blame for every miniscule problem in our lives. Don't turn something harmless into a storm.

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Agree with you completely. His visit is a positive.

If he would have come in right after the storm people would have said he didnt' trust the people who run the parks in an emergency or any number of other things.

He visited, he spoke with CMs and he showed himself in a positive light.

I don't like the way he has run the company for quite a few years now but there is no reason to be negative because he visited WDW.

 

[TheDisneyGirl02]

As much as I hate to say it (being in PR myself), what a wonderful PR stunt Eisner pulled off.

I have disliked Eisner for some time now. When I was a CP I disliked him, now that I'm back to TDS, I dislike him. The company needs a change...I truly believe that. I just found out how much my friend who has worked for the company for 5+ years makes and it's disgusting! He gets million dollar bonuses while the CM are struggling to support a family! It's crazy and unfair!

TheDisneyGirl02

 

[bgraham34]

Why wasn't he there cleaning it up. See you need executives who wil get there hands dirty especialyl at Disney that is what you really need to see from corporations. It keeps the little man in check.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Eisner's visit would've been a positive one - had he been there on Sunday. If I'm in charge of a company, and something like a Cat4 hurricane just happens to roll thru one of my assets (and quite a large one at that), you can bet the house that I'd be on the first flight there. It just stinks, to me, of a PR move.

 

[TURKEY]

Why wasn't he there cleaning it up. See you need executives who wil get there hands dirty especialyl at Disney that is what you really need to see from corporations. It keeps the little man in check.

I agree.

All-Stars had anyone in management that could make it in, working out with the cast, be it directing traffic, greeting guests in the lobby, or working with other front line cast.

I'm pretty sure everywhere else was the same. It would have been nice, but I don't think it would ever happen, so I'm not knocking him for not showing up earlier or to help out.

It's a better move on Eisner's part if he just goes and visits all over property (doesn't have to be more than 30 min. per location), and not just one or two selected areas that I'm sure were selected in advance, with which CM's would be able to be around.

 

[Punkss]

OK....

He's never going to do right by you people is he?

And secondly he didn't do it for you people so stop putting him down, just doing his job (well i think a bit more actually) so give the man a break.

Thirdly, how come you even have a go at him for not coming early enough. Remember travel was disrupted for everyone.

You guys need to let it go and relax.

Rant over.

 

[Yen_Sid1]

Eisner not negotiating now!

From today's Orlando Sentinel:

Eisner received polite and candid responses.

One employee described how she reported to work at 4:30 a.m., just hours after her previous shift, to help clean the park even though her home was damaged. On her way to Disney, she said, "I was stopped three times and told to go back home and I said, 'No, Disney needs my help.' "

Another brought up the delicate issue of contract talks between Walt Disney World and unions representing 21,000 full-time employees.

"It shows the dedication that we have to this company, and we'd like to be appreciated as well, and in contract time we'd like to see a little better offer," she said.

"Oh. Oh. We're not negotiating now," Eisner quipped, prompting laughter in one of several light-hearted exchanges with the employees

 

[Yen_Sid1]

Here's a link to that story:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...aug19,1,6697488.story?coll=orl-home-headlines

 

[Shaman]

People complain about him being five days late. This is an unfair criticism. I know it may be hard to believe for some, but I guarantee that Eisner doesn't spend the majority of his days tanning himself in Fiji while cooling off in a bath tub filled with money. He IS a busy man.... Not to mention the difficulty of actually traveling to an area that was very hard hit by a devastating storm.

True...the visit Mr. Eisner made is a good move...and maybe I can go as far as suspecting that Eisner IS a busy man (after all, micromanaging isn't very easy to do), but if his concern for WDW was genuine he would have dropped everything he was doing and would have come to WDW that Saturday...Monday the latest....not five days after the fact...He has the bling bling to make it happen...hehe...but like I said previously, I guess its better late than never...

Eisner isn't the spawn of Satan, but he isn't a little angel either. Just my opinion.

 

[Kadee]

I do not know what is it like to work for Disney (though I wish I did) and I'm sure that you CM's know much more about the 'going's on" at Corporate Disney. I know ME hasn't done an absolutely perfect job. Who has? I wouldn't want his job. There are so many things that go on at the top that so few people know about. He may be doing the best he can. I do not know as I have never even come close to walking in his shoes, or even a CM's shoes, so I will refrain from judgment on him or anyone working at Disney. But I have to say one thing: Those of you who want him gone, be careful what you wish for; you just might get it, and the next one may be much worse.

 

[Shaman]

Those of you who want him gone, be careful what you wish for; you just might get it, and the next one may be much worse.

Truer words were never spoken...I just hope that when we wave Eisner goodbye, an all around better CEO and board is brought in...one that satisfies both the traditionalist and the more progressive types of ideas...

 

[Punkss]

I have to say one thing: Those of you who want him gone, be careful what you wish for; you just might get it, and the next one may be much worse.

I'll second that too!

 

[cherrynegra]

But I have to say one thing: Those of you who want him gone, be careful what you wish for; you just might get it, and the next one may be much worse.

No! No! No! No! I don't care how many negative points I get for disagreeing with you on this one! I have heard this argument bandied about often and I take this moment to kindly disagree with you on this one.

I am going to offer you an equivalent hypoethetical. And it's only that. Hypothetical. I am only making a comparison. If I were a battered wife, and I had suffered years of battery, and I kept saying, "Oh, it's better to stay in this battered relationship because I don't know what it's like outside of this relationship. The next one might be worse." I would be ignoring the fact that the NEXT ONE COULD BE BETTER!!! How do you know if you don't try???

One of our greatest presidents, President Roosevelt, once said, "There is nothing to fear, but fear itself." And that's the point. Do you allow this fear, based on no conceptual evidence whatsoever, deter you from making the brave leap to bring in the kind of leadership that Disney so richly deserves?

Disney is more than just a company or business as so many believe. It is an idea, as Polyanna as other may think it to be, of a place where people can come to live their childhood wish. A place where we can be children again. Disney is, was, and always shall be an American icon. And it is my belief that we have long passed the point of bringing in new leadership that will not only protect the Disney icon and heritage, but promote it and give it room to grow. It is time for people to overcome that fear and face the many positive possiblities out there.

My two cents. That's all.

 

[imagineer boy]

why does everyonr hate him??

Whoa, what happened to this guy? How did he get banned? I searched his posts, but found nothing bad. As trollologist of these boards, I ask if anyone knows.

And Cherry, Well said! :sohappy: