chadwpalm
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Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway - Disneyland
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mickEblu
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Oh ya and the Kylo Ren light saber coming through the ceiling.
yensidtlaw1969
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Without spoiling anything, it's mainly because the experience is just not ambitious enough to class itself as an E. At least one scene relies wholly on projection mapping to create the impression that anything is happening with the set or characters (outside of the moving vehicles, of course), and the other more interesting elements in the ride are too few and also hit or miss. Many of the scenes feel like you're literally in a warehouse - like a temporary install rather than a committed, fully-themed environment. Despite some clever bits sprinkled throughout, there's a distinct "trade show-demo" vibe that doesn't properly give way to a rich, real ride experience.
That the Disneyland show building for MMRR is shaped differently than WDW's suggests the ride can't be just a copy and paste job, which has me slightly optimistic. The concept is solid and there's fun to be had (cute is definitely the word for this ride), but it just didn't come together the first go round. I'm not expecting all my issues to me addressed at DL, but there's definitely room for improvement and I hope they take at least some of it.
For my money, Roger Rabbit is a better dark ride than WDW's MMRR. It does so much more with so much less.
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mickEblu
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Does it feel like more of a warehouse than RSR?
yensidtlaw1969
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Oh for sure.
PiratesMansion
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I expect, if nothing else, I'll like MMRR more than most of the recent DLR ride additions, and I'm thrilled about the fact that, while we are losing things in the land, we've lost almost nothing as a direct result of the ride being built. That's always something worth celebrating.
mickEblu
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Agreed and the fact that this is about as close as we’ll get to an original or “non IP” attraction for a while or ever. Unless you count the S.E.A treehouse if it happens.
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mickEblu
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Disney loves to milk nostalgia. I can’t understand how a S.E.A treehouse with its cartoon characters from the board game Clue is better than bringing back Swiss Family Robinson especially considering the show that’s coming out on D+. Whatever they do, I hope they make it feel like a real lived in place. I think that’s a challenging task if they go the Encanto route which I’m not expecting.
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yensidtlaw1969
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Without giving anything specific away, there are some rooms in Runaway Railway that have distinct "Traveling 'Immersive' Van Gogh Projection Show" vibes . . . the Warehouse aspect is nearly this thinly vieiled at times:
mickEblu
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Yes but how did you FEEL walking off the ride? On paper Pooh might be the worst Fantasyland style dark ride at Disneyland yet I feel better coming off that ride than any of the others.
Californian Elitist
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Thank you for your explanation.
Two people, including yourself, have said that you actually feel like you’re in a warehouse. Can’t be a coincidence. That’s not pleasing to hear at all. To me, it sounds like, as you stated, the ride feels less immersive, I’m assuming due to lack of details that should be in the surrounding environment. Basically, I’m not expecting for this to feel like Pirates or Indy.
BrianLo
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I've been on the Florida one and it's an E-ticket for me. Which doesn't mean it's the same as HM, RoTR, Pirates or Indy. It's a much stronger attraction than Ratatouille. Will likely be perceived stronger than Small World.
I don't quite have the disdain for lack of animatronics as some do (although there are certainly some).
It has a great theme song that carries through, beyond cute and a ton of fun.
Maybe I don't have that strong attachment for Roger Rabbit... but it's a MUCH better attraction.
I don't quite have the disdain for lack of animatronics as some do (although there are certainly some).
It has a great theme song that carries through, beyond cute and a ton of fun.
Maybe I don't have that strong attachment for Roger Rabbit... but it's a MUCH better attraction.
Californian Elitist
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This can’t be stated enough. Miraculously, Disneyland will have, yet again, gained a new ride without removing another.
“Blessing of size.”
mickEblu
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If 5 years ago you said Disneyland is going to add an E ticket to Toontown and Roger Rabbit will still exist nobody would have believed you.
Californian Elitist
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I certainly wouldn’t have believed it, given how small Toontown is, unless I would have considered them expanding it into TDA property.
Honestly, I’m still not very sure what the ride replaced. Is it the shop that used to be there (the actual name of the shop is escaping me… Gag Factory, maybe)?
BuzzedPotatoHead89
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It truly is a sin that somehow the attraction-rich Disneyland was able to add all of SWGE plus MMRR these last five years without a net loss in ride count (which I commend).
While DHS which is in most need of more net new attractions somehow lost so much of the uniqueness of the park for these same attractions. Yet somehow we still have folks defending TDO/WDI on this.
I do think part of the challenge MMRR had is the comparison to GMR which was the highlight of my visit to MGM back in the day. I suspect at Disneyland it’ll be perceived in a more positive light.
mickEblu
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Part of the store and a huge old parade warehouse(?)
Ummm... Avengers Campus completely rethemed one ride, and killed 3 other rides (one transferred to the Pier) and It's Tough to Be a Bug for just one new ride (a second to be named and built much later).
In WDW, TRON and Ratatouille are new and not replacing other attractions. Cosmic Rewind added to the footprint of attraction-space with its new gravity building. Soarin' added 50% to its ride-space.
In DHS, TSMM added 50% to its ride-space. Four new rides were added with TSL and SWL, replacing one ride and one stunt show.
Altho, Stitch and Primeval sitting empty isn't good.
All in all, DL and WDW pretty much have the same number of rides, which has been the case for the last decade, and as far as we know, will continue to be on par with each other ride-wise for the next half decade.
All that extra space in WDW is taken up by hotels and golf courses.
Californian Elitist
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What is there to defend? I think it’s sad and embarrassing. Also, why replace GMR, which seemed like a perfect fit for the park, with MMRR?
For those that have been on MMRR at DHS, how do they contextualize the ride around the Chinese Theatre?
mickEblu
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Ummm... Avengers Campus completely rethemed one ride, and killed 3 other rides (one transferred to the Pier) and It's Tough to Be a Bug for just one new ride (a second to be named and built much later).
In WDW, TRON and Ratatouille are new and not replacing other attractions. Cosmic Rewind added to the footprint of attraction-space with its new gravity building. Soarin' added 50% to its ride-space.
In DHS, TSMM added 50% to its ride-space. Four new rides were added with TSL and SWL, replacing one ride and one stunt show.
Altho, Stitch and Primeval sitting empty isn't good.
All in all, DL and WDW pretty much have the same number of rides, which has been the case for the last decade, and as far as we know, will continue to be on par with each other ride-wise for the next half decade.
All that extra space in WDW is taken up by hotels and golf courses.
I still can’t believe that Avengers Campus makes me miss Bugs Land. I mean we knew ITTBAB was great but I never really thought I’d look back so fondly at the land. In actuality, it was done and themed really well in that tiny bit of space and served it’s purpose.