Michael Jackson Verdict

[TheOneVader]

Oh, sorry, I just thought from your post that you didn't understand.

Now if only they knew who really killed OJ's wife...

 

[Number_6]

Now if only they knew who really killed OJ's wife...

Now you know that OJ has been checking every single golf course that he comes across to find the real killer. Evidence showed the killer had a wicked slice... :lookaroun



Sorry

 

[FutureCEO]

Don't forget Robert Blake...he got off

anyway...me, being 19, I have never heard of Jackson 5 music and a very large amount of Jacksons songs.. (ive only heard like one or two). Its like what is the big deal with this guy? music sucks so does elvis's music and i like music too

 

[Christina]

I always knew he would be proved innocent...

I grew up with Michael Jackson. My earliest memories of English music rather than Spanish music are of Michael Jackson. Some of my fondest memories involve Michael Jackson playing in the background.

I believe him to be very weird, but I do think the media made him that way. I feel sad for him because he lacked a proper childhood, and he feels the need to always "morph" into something better because of his father. It also makes me sad of all the ridicule has faced lately, and I do believe that he will indeed be dying in a few years... his strangeness is now more erratic than ever, and I think it'll lead to his demise.

I don't like the fact that people are comparing it to OJ Simpson... but then again, I don't really know what happened in Neverland Ranch, but I suppose I will (for once) have to trust and believe that the American Court made the right desicion in announcing him "not guilty" on all ten verdicts.

 

[TheOneVader]

I always knew he would be proved innocent...

He wasn't proven innocent, just not proven guilty.

 

[diddy_mouse]

i must say i was shocked with the verdict. i had almost wanted him to be proven guilty. now, i do enjoy MJ's music, especially his earlier works (Off the Wall, Thriller) but as a person, i am a little creeped out by him. i know that his childhood basically sucked because of his father and the constant media exposure and such, but i feel that there is something clinically wrong with MJ. if there was a way for him to find help, it might benefit him.

just my two cents...

 

[626]

He wasn't proven innocent, just not proven guilty.

INNOCENT until proven guilty... sheesh I learned that back in first grade

 

[GenerationX]

I believe that's presumed innocent until proven guilty.

 

[MadameCheshire]

Sure.. MJ is different, but there was no evidence. Innocent until proven guilty. I believe everyone deserves that chance. The trial was a he-said, she-said trial. There was no evidence. The man likes kids, but no one had any proof that he did anything else except admire the childhood that they have and he wanted. I am glad the judge said he was not guilty. Only because there was nothing there to incriminate him.

 

[Tara Mae]

MadameChesire:
You said there wasn't any evidence.
The magazines? Those, what, never really appeared?
What about the child's testimony? A child wouldn't lie over something so large...his voice wasn't evidence enough, I'm guessing.
Sure, he liked kids, but...well, I'm not getting into this again.

 

[The_CEO]

Another sign you don't know anything about what really was said.

ANYBODY who paid attention to what happened would know that the child lied numerous times.

 

[Tara Mae]

How can you tell that such child lied?
Are you inside his mind?
Did you put him to a lie-detector test?
Were you even in the court-room to where you could use the excuse "I saw it in his eyes"?
Just as MJ only knows the truth, the child only knows the truth.

 

[angelofitaly69]

How can you tell that such child lied?
Are you inside his mind?
Did you put him to a lie-detector test?
Were you even in the court-room to where you could use the excuse "I saw it in his eyes"?
Just as MJ only knows the truth, the child only knows the truth.

Please don't think I am picking a fight cause I am not. But when you were a kid, did you ever lie? I know several children who have lied. Then the lie got carried away and got too big to just say "oops I lied". Not all children lie. Some do.

Also maybe the mom feed the child so many lines that he actually began to believe them. Or maybe there was psychological abuse and the kid felt he had to say it to be able to stay with his mom. Sometimes there are deeper issuses then what the tabloids and the media say.

Again I am not starting a fight, just stating my side.

 

[Tara Mae]

angelofitaly69: I understand you're not trying to pick a fight.
Just a friendly little debate, eh?

As a child, yes, I lied, but believe it or not, only 3 times in my life have I ever lied about something important.
I've never let a lie get carried away, ever.

This could be possible:

Also maybe the mom feed the child so many lines that he actually began to believe them. Or maybe there was psychological abuse and the kid felt he had to say it to be able to stay with his mom. Sometimes there are deeper issuses then what the tabloids and the media say.

That is a definite possibility...some parents just feed their children so much ____*t.
I'm not too sure about the second one...possibility.

It's not that I don't think the child lied to some extent, I just wish people would quit saying: He lied, she lied.
MJ was innocent, MJ was guilty, MJ was neither...
They're just opinions, none of them truth.
We will never know the truth.
You think MJ would admit to molestation? No.
You think the child would admit to lying? No.

I wish we knew the truth, goddess, I do, that way this petty-fighting/debating could end. lol

 

[imagineer boy]

Please don't think I am picking a fight cause I am not. But when you were a kid, did you ever lie? I know several children who have lied. Then the lie got carried away and got too big to just say "oops I lied". Not all children lie. Some do.

Also maybe the mom feed the child so many lines that he actually began to believe them. Or maybe there was psychological abuse and the kid felt he had to say it to be able to stay with his mom. Sometimes there are deeper issuses then what the tabloids and the media say.

Again I am not starting a fight, just stating my side.

yes, children lie, but they will tell the truth if something bothers them. Like if a friend pushed them down, they'll tell on them. If someone takes their toy, they'll tell on them. If someone calles them fatso, they'll tell on them. If someone sexually molests them, they'll tell on them.

See what I mean? A child wouldn't lie about being sexually molested. Its not in their nature, and they don't know about these things.

 

[angelofitaly69]

yes, children lie, but they will tell the truth if something bothers them. Like if a friend pushed them down, they'll tell on them. If someone takes their toy, they'll tell on them. If someone calles them fatso, they'll tell on them. If someone sexually molests them, they'll tell on them.

See what I mean? A child wouldn't lie about being sexually molested. Its not in their nature, and they don't know about these things.

This is not always true. For a child to lie about it means that there was emotional and psychological abuse.
Here in Cleveland we just had a similar but not exact case. A girl (8) accused a friend of the family of trying to rape her wanted to kill her. She went through numerous interviews with police and psychologists. It wasn;t until she was put infront of a judge that she said she lied because she was scared to tell the truth cause she didn't want to go to jail.She started the rumor after the family friend didn't buy her something.

I am not saying all children lie but here's and example. If you want more, then look at child abuse cases where a child will lie that no body hit them cause they don't want to get hurt or lose their home.

 

[Halfling418]

Future CEO:
"anyway...me, being 19, I have never heard of Jackson 5 music and a very large amount of Jacksons songs.. (ive only heard like one or two). Its like what is the big deal with this guy? music sucks so does elvis's music and i like music too"

Bashing the music of the King of Pop AND the King of Rock and Roll? Scandal! I'm 19 as well and have always loved their music. *sigh* But of course to each his own...

And I thought knowing about this stuff was standard pop culture knowledge.

 

[daveemtdave]

Welcome to the boards Angel.

 

[MadameCheshire]

MadameChesire:
You said there wasn't any evidence.
The magazines? Those, what, never really appeared?
What about the child's testimony? A child wouldn't lie over something so large...his voice wasn't evidence enough, I'm guessing.
Sure, he liked kids, but...well, I'm not getting into this again.

The magazines are in NO WAY showing any proof. They just fabricate what goes on in the courtroom. And a child could lie under these conditions. There is a lot of money involved in the case and it is possible they could be told what to say. It does happen. If the childs voice is evidence enough to proove Michael guilty.. then that is fine. BUT in the same way Michael's voice holds the same truth. Therefore, both of their voices are evidence, and that is all they had to go on. AND the voices conflict with eacother. Children are not exempt from lying. So who can honestly say that the child is telling the truth, or if Michael is telling the truth for that matter. Like I said it was a he-said, she-said case. There was no hard core evidence condeming Michael.

I'm not trying to start anything. Honestly.. I was just stating my view.

 

[Christina]

The magazines are in NO WAY showing any proof. They just fabricate what goes on in the courtroom. And a child could lie under these conditions. There is a lot of money involved in the case and it is possible they could be told what to say. It does happen. If the childs voice is evidence enough to proove Michael guilty.. then that is fine. BUT in the same way Michael's voice holds the same truth. Therefore, both of their voices are evidence, and that is all they had to go on. AND the voices conflict with eacother. Children are not exempt from lying. So who can honestly say that the child is telling the truth, or if Michael is telling the truth for that matter. Like I said it was a he-said, she-said case. There was no hard core evidence condeming Michael.

KUDOS!! Good explaination... I agree with you 100 percent. I just didn't wanna get into this Michael Jackson thing because I'm not too good with wording...