Miceage Update - Buh-bye Bug's Land?!?

britain

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This land is confusingly charming and tacky. It does have theming on the level of Cars Land albeit minus an equivalent to the giant canyon. It also doesn't have any good attractions. It has a kitschy baby ride that has no compelling reason to exist and, like any escape from a 1966 Batman cliffhanger, leaves you incredulous every time.

Well said!
 

Rich T

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Yeah I could see that too. I would like to see the Mickey ride and some surprise nobody sees coming... that would probably be based on some Pixar IP. I wonder if Lasseter would push for another Pixar IP in DCA if Bugs land goes away. What's his position nowadays anyway?
I'd actually still like to see them build Monstropolis and convert Monsters into a clone of the Tokyo ride. I do think the public will burn out on Marvel sooner or later (not completely, but it won't remain the cultural steamroller it is now). But everything they're building for Marvel could be rethemed down the line, so at least it all equals new fun rides in the present.

But, seriously, guys, an ANT MAN ride? Zootopia becomes Disney's 2nd-hightest grossing animated film ever and gets zero park love while ANT MAN gets consideration for a dark ride??? Pop culture is a cruel beast!!!
 

mickEblu

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This land is confusingly charming and tacky. It does have theming on the level of Cars Land albeit minus an equivalent to the giant canyon. It also doesn't have any good attractions. It has a kitschy baby ride that has no compelling reason to exist and, like any escape from a 1966 Batman cliffhanger, leaves you incredulous every time.

Wait a minute. I thought you loved Heimlichs?
 

mickEblu

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I'd actually still like to see them build Monstropolis and convert Monsters into a clone of the Tokyo ride. I do think the public will burn out on Marvel sooner or later (not completely, but it won't remain the cultural steamroller it is now). But everything they're building for Marvel could be rethemed down the line, so at least it all equals new fun rides in the present.

But, seriously, guys, an ANT MAN ride? Zootopia becomes Disney's 2nd-hightest grossing animated film ever and gets zero park love while ANT MAN gets consideration for a dark ride??? Pop culture is a cruel beast!!!

I would have loved to see the Monsters doors Coaster :( Yeah not so much excited about ant man. More just the park getting a much needed people eating dark ride.
 

SSG

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Yeah I could see that too. I would like to see the Mickey ride and some surprise nobody sees coming... that would probably be based on some Pixar IP. I wonder if Lasseter would push for another Pixar IP in DCA if Bugs land goes away. What's his position nowadays anyway?
Wiki says: "chief creative officer of Pixar Animation Studios, Walt Disney Animation Studios, and DisneyToon Studios. He is also the Principal Creative Adviser for Walt Disney Imagineering."

What I could see is Marvel taking the lot behind MB, along with Bugs Land (though I could also see part of BL going toward a CarsLand expansion). Then Marvel goes north and east from MB out to the bus zone. That leaves a pretty good space for Hollywood or Mickey Land or whatever. Here is a crude idea (Marvel area in red; Hollywood in green).



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TP2000

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Original Poster
Wiki says: "chief creative officer of Pixar Animation Studios, Walt Disney Animation Studios, and DisneyToon Studios. He is also the Principal Creative Adviser for Walt Disney Imagineering."

What I could see is Marvel taking the lot behind MB, along with Bugs Land (though I could also see part of BL going toward a CarsLand expansion). Then Marvel goes north and east from MB out to the bus zone. That leaves a pretty good space for Hollywood or Mickey Land or whatever. Here is a crude idea (Marvel area in red; Hollywood in green).



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Excellent! But I would amend that to shift the green outline to the north and leave the ITTBAB theater as part of the red outline. Per the Miceage Update today, that's the big news.
 

TP2000

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Original Poster
Those guys continue to do a bang up job with the relative absence of Al Lutz, every time I see one of these it's like Christmas. Loving what I'm hearing about the level of immersion in Star Wars Land, it really harkens back to the ridiculous overtures to "put on a good show" that Disney is renowned for. Adios, Flick.

Agreed. This update was a surprise, but a very nice one with some juicy nuggets. And several key concepts we hadn't heard about yet, like closing ITTBAB for a family dark ride. Wow!

What about the maintenance issues at "Guardians of Terror: Mission Hollywood Tower"?
First I had heard of this.....

It would make sense why sometimes when I look at the App the Guardians ride has posted a 120 minute wait, while Radiator Springs Racers is only 45 minutes and the rest of the park seems mellow due to AP blockouts. That must be when they only have one or two elevator shafts running. I'll keep an eye on the App more often.
 

TP2000

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Original Poster
The sad thing is it's true. WDPR has zero plan and zero vision. They've been working on the Marvel expansion for nearly three years and it's STILL not finalized.

That's the underlying theme of this Miceage Update; that Burbank and TDA execs are throwing stuff at the wall at the last minute to see what sticks. There appears to be no long term plan except for stuff already in construction.

Just look at parking. Shameful.
 

Curious Constance

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That's the underlying theme of this Miceage Update; that Burbank and TDA execs are throwing stuff at the wall at the last minute to see what sticks. There appears to be no long term plan except for stuff already in construction.

Just look at parking. Shameful.

I don't see how this is even possible. I'm trying to understand, but how can a company like Disney not know what's happening, months, heck years, ahead of time? I bet they already know what merchandise will be selling for Christmas, NEXT year, but they don't know what they are building and where?
 

mickEblu

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I don't see how this is even possible. I'm trying to understand, but how can a company like Disney not know what's happening, months, heck years, ahead of time? I bet they already know what merchandise will be selling for Christmas, NEXT year, but they don't know what they are building and where?

Seems very backwards for the convention to be driving creative decisions. I encounter some of this backwardness at work. I'm in change management and I can't tell you how many times internal communications to our end users end up driving the process of defining policies/ processes instead of the the other way around.

We re also in the middle of an acquisition so that doesn't help.
 

SSG

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So "a high-end and hyper-themed Star Wars wing" for the new hotel. I wonder how many rooms this takes in? News reports put the new hotel at 700 rooms. And what fearsome tariff will Disney charge?
 

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