MiceAge Rumor: Disney Jr. Closing In April '17 - Marvel Plans???

[mickEblu]

Still, I’d imagine this is temporary to keep Marvel buzz going while Disney builds whatever the Marvel land turns out to be.

Did anyone find it interesting that Joe Rohde didn't mention any Marvel Land in either the OC register article or IGN article. Not sure what interview(s) Joe's quotes were taken from but there was no mention.

Instead he said that the oil refinery will look fine in Hollywoodland because that's how things work in the GOTG universe - things just appear out of nowhere. Haha

 

[Phroobar]

Did anyone find it interesting that Joe Rohde didn't mention any Marvel Land in either the OC register article or IGN article. Not sure what interview(s) Joe's quotes were taken from but there was no mention.

Instead he said that the oil refinery will look fine in Hollywoodland because that's how things work in the GOTG universe - things just appear out of nowhere. Haha

I think the blood to his brain is being redirected to his ear.

 

[SSG]

Did anyone find it interesting that Joe Rohde didn't mention any Marvel Land in either the OC register article or IGN article. Not sure what interview(s) Joe's quotes were taken from but there was no mention.

Instead he said that the oil refinery will look fine in Hollywoodland because that's how things work in the GOTG universe - things just appear out of nowhere. Haha

Since Rohde said “[t]he new attraction will anchor a broader universe of Super Heroes that will grow over time at Disney California Adventure park” I would guess that’s the temporary backstory; ‘Look, a weird power plant/oil rig thing appeared in Hollywood. What could it be?’

 

[mickEblu]

I think the blood to his brain is being redirected to his ear.

Ahhhhhh that's what it is! Lol

 

[mickEblu]

Since Rohde said “[t]he new attraction will anchor a broader universe of Super Heroes that will grow over time at Disney California Adventure park” I would guess that’s the temporary backstory; ‘Look, a weird power plant/oil rig thing appeared in Hollywood. What could it be?’

I'm just trying to say since he already alluded a Marvel Land months back why now is he mentioning this really weak "temporary backstory" instead of just reiterating what you quoted above? Is Marvel Land not a 100% done deal? Maybe 2020 isn't accurate? Or probably the most obvious, it's just the best he can do to describe such a flawed decision.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

I'm just trying to say since he already alluded a Marvel Land months back why now is he mentioning this really weak "temporary backstory" instead of just reiterating what you quoted above? Is Marvel Land not a 100% done deal? Maybe 2020 isn't accurate? Or probably the most obvious, it's just the best he can do to describe such a flawed decision.

It's a marketing strategy. He won't talk about it until he's given the green light to do so.

 

[mickEblu]

It's a marketing strategy. He won't talk about it until he's given the green light to do so.

But he already did when they announced the GOTG attraction. Maybe someone told him to tone it down a little.

EDIT: I also think another element may be that he is conflicted with this whole thing. He's a super creative guy so he wants to rationalize this decision for himself and for some of the fans all while obviously keeping in line with what he's allowed to say.

 

[SSG]

I'm just trying to say since he already alluded a Marvel Land months back why now is he mentioning this really weak "temporary backstory" instead of just reiterating what you quoted above? Is Marvel Land not a 100% done deal? Maybe 2020 isn't accurate? Or probably the most obvious, it's just the best he can do to describe such a flawed decision.

Again, just guessing here, but I think this lame backstory is just acknowledging that Guardians will be the only Marvel attraction in what will still be Hollywood for another 3-4 years (well, aside from the hoppin’ Avenger’s Dance party). While the more invested Disney fans will find that story dumb, it’s likely being aimed at the more casual visitor.

 

[SuddenStorm]

Sadly, this makes me think the Marvel Dance thing might actually happen

 

[Suspirian]

Did anyone find it interesting that Joe Rohde didn't mention any Marvel Land in either the OC register article or IGN article. Not sure what interview(s) Joe's quotes were taken from but there was no mention.

Instead he said that the oil refinery will look fine in Hollywoodland because that's how things work in the GOTG universe - things just appear out of nowhere. Haha

apparently in the comics, The Collector's collection is so extensive that he has multiple places that he houses it. The director of GOTG mentioned this as well. Idk why he didn't just use that as an excuse instead of "things pop out of nowhere"

 

[mickEblu]

apparently in the comics, The Collector's collection is so extensive that he has multiple places that he houses it. The director of GOTG mentioned this as well. Idk why he didn't just use that as an excuse instead of "things pop out of nowhere"

He probably doesn't know that. But either way, it doesn't really explain why the tower will look so out of place in the context of the themed land it's residing in.

I've heard Tony Baxter say that Indiana Jones was originally considered for Tommorowland (Yes , can you believe that?) and he and all the imagineers told the powers that be that that would make absolutely NO sense and that it has to go in Adventureland. What's happening with GOTG is just like this, except the imagineers lost.

 

[TP2000]

Sadly, this makes me think the Marvel Dance thing might actually happen

Oh no. That really happened? Wow. I had no idea. Do they still do this at DHS??? My last WDW visit I avoided DHS entirely, and previous visits I think I spent a total of three hours in the park before moving back to Epcot. What a mess that park is, but this dance party is just weird.

This seems like another perfect example of Disney's left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. We have MiceAge rumors saying that WDI is so serious about Star Wars Land that they are paying off Coca-Cola contracts so they don't have to serve Coke in the land, but then WDW is doing a pop music Star Wars dance party with Stormtroopers filling in as go-go girls. Baffling.

Meanwhile, in Anaheim... I'm glad TDA is going to focus all the Marvel street entertainment into one corner of DCA, and leave the pee-stained puppet show to the precious kiddies and their parents who made a specific life choice to pay 120 bucks per day to sit on pee-stained carpet. Guardians of the Galaxy seems to be all about classic 20th century rock and roll, so a dance party or street entertainment shouldn't be too much of a stretch thematically once Mission Breakout opens. And I imagine TDA wants to get back some of that old Mad T Party magic in that area.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

But he already did when they announced the GOTG attraction. Maybe someone told him to tone it down a little.

Let me clarify; what I meant by "talk about it" was go into detail about the upcoming Marvel project(s).

Sizzle reels like the one Joe did for the GoTG reveal are heavily scripted and driven by internal Marketing teams, so anything he said was given Disney's blessing prior to release. The communications message right now is squarely on Mission Escape, and there's no reason to suspect that there's some meaning behind the lack of information on the next step for Marvel rumored for DCA.

 

[SSG]

Oh no. That really happened? Wow. I had no idea. Do they still do this at DHS??? My last WDW visit I avoided DHS entirely, and previous visits I think I spent a total of three hours in the park before moving back to Epcot. What a mess that park is, but this dance party is just weird.

This seems like another perfect example of Disney's left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. We have MiceAge rumors saying that WDI is so serious about Star Wars Land that they are paying off Coca-Cola contracts so they don't have to serve Coke in the land, but then WDW is doing a pop music Star Wars dance party with Stormtroopers filling in as go-go girls. Baffling.

I'm glad TDA is going to focus all the Marvel street entertainment into one corner of DCA, and leave the pee-stained puppet show to the precious kiddies and their parents who made a specific life choice to pay 120 bucks per day to sit on pee-stained carpet. Guardians of the Galaxy seems to be all about classic 20th century rock and roll, so a dance party or street entertainment shouldn't be too much of a stretch thematically once Mission Breakout opens. And I imagine TDA wants to get back some of that old Mad T Party magic in that area.

They need to make this a thing:

 

[Deleted member 107043]

I've heard Tony Baxter say that Indiana Jones was originally considered for Tommorowland (Yes , can you believe that?) and he and all the imagineers told the powers that be that that would make absolutely NO sense and that it has to go in Adventureland.

Yet it's totally fine that Nemo is there?

 

[mickEblu]

Yet it's totally fine that Nemo is there?

According to Tony that was the only way to save the Subs.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

According to Tony that was the only way to save the Subs.

That makes the decision even dumber.

I appreciate Tony's genius, and he had an outstanding career at Disney, but I'm glad he's gone from WDI.

 

[TP2000]

Yet it's totally fine that Nemo is there?

Tomorrowland has been a mess since 1985. And even a few years in the 1960's it was a mess when the 1955 version seemed stale and hokey, before New Tomorrowland opened in '67. Well over half of its life Tomorrowland has been a mess and/or outdated and stale. Even if they spent $500 Million and totally remade it into New Tomorrowland 2020, by 2028 or so it's going to look hokey and hopelessly "2019" to the kids of the 2030's.

While I love the idea of Tomorrowland, I can't really blame successive generations of TDA and Burbank bean counters from throwing in the towel on it. You'd need to spend hundreds of millions of dollars every decade to keep it relevant and "Tomorrow".

 

[mickEblu]

Let me clarify; what I meant by "talk about it" was go into detail about the upcoming Marvel project(s).

Sizzle reels like the one Joe did for the GoTG reveal are heavily scripted and driven by internal Marketing teams, so anything he said was given Disney's blessing prior to release. The communications message right now is squarely on Mission Escape, and there's no reason to suspect that there's some meaning behind the lack of information on the next step for Marvel rumored for DCA.

Your probably right in regards to the sizzle reel. I added the following to my post after I submitted it. In regards to his recent comment about why the tower appeared out of nowhere. Not sure if you had the chance to see it.

EDIT: I also think another element may be that he is conflicted with this whole thing. He's a super creative guy so he wants to rationalize this decision for himself and for some of the fans all while obviously keeping in line with what he's allowed to say.

Anyway, I think it would it would be better off saying nothing at all than that lame backstory. That particular comment sounds like a creative person trying to grasp at straws and rationalize the companies decision and not something that came from marketing.

 

[mickEblu]

That makes the decision even dumber.

I appreciate Tony's genius, and he had an outstanding career at Disney, but I'm glad he's gone from WDI.

Im guessing you'd rather have an empty lagoon which wouldn't really bother me personally because I never ride Nemo. I would agree it was a dumb decision, if we were riding around the lagoon on some plastic Nemo's. But there is nothing cartoony about the lagoon unless you are actually on the ride there is nothing that is interfering with the theme of the land, except for the seagulls (and that area feels more like Fantasyland really). I mean they could literally just say Nemo belongs to Fantasyland and nobody would bat an eye because of its location.

I don't think that it was stupid to save the Subs. Tommorland is a mess anyway. It's the only attraction at DLR where you really go underwater and it would be cool if that experience could be saved albeit in a more creative and futuristic way.