MGM Studio's

[cookiee_munster]

I’d like to see more features/rides on the proper MGM Films and not the animated films. I’ve looked some films up in one of my Film magazines and the Well known MGM classics they could do are… Ben Hur, Gone with the wind, The great escape, Some like it hot, Get Carter, Thelma and Louise, Fiddler on the roof, Singing in the rain, Carrie, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, The good the bad and the ugly, The man in the iron mask, Rollerball and many many others!. I’d love to see a feature of Carrie like the end scene with the rubble for the house and the For sale sign and the hand coming out of the rubble that would be a cool feature to put somewhere.

*Also as someone has said they should build a completely new park for the animated Disney movies. Well I think they should just do like a street/area dedicated to just animated movies like "animation BLVD" or something like that instead of building a completely bran new park. Of course the whole street will be filled with loads of shops and buildings and features dedicated to animated Disney films. J do u agree…? And then the rest of the park would be just on the Disney films (non animated).

 

[mwitkus]

i agree with you on the rides featuring non-animated movies... i think they could do so many things with a lot of those movies... like mary poppins and chitty chitty bang bang... those would be great!!!!

 

[cookiee_munster]

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I’ve came up with more detailed descriptions of my ideas.

This new area would be called "Animation Exploration" or something in those terms.

The area would be located near Fantazmic and beauty and the beast. This is because the shows really can’t be moved and second I think the area is an unoccupied area… so you would go down that large path leading to fantazmic and there it is. Half way or somewhere.

The land will have no rides (that’s the magic kingdoms job) but more like features/attractions.
The area will be like Time Square (but much more smaller) but will have the buzzing atmosphere it creates. Billboards will tower the area with old and new trailers of Disney films and other animated features/advertising.

Shops will include a HUGE shop where "kids" can buy ANY of their favourite character costumes and props. Also a shop which holds just animation cells, a café themed to the latest Disney film and also a shop for any Disney DVD, Video, music fanatic for just the Disney animated films. The shop will have certain areas for specialised DVD’s, Video’s that cannot be played on American Hardware (Satisfy all customers). *Other shops will be included*

Also an official meet and greet area for any kid who wants to see their favourite and latest animated character will be built.

Of course the other rides/shows in MGM relating to disney animation will either be moved or replaced.

I have more ideas but i just don't like to go into great detail with things.

 

[jmarc63]

Originally posted by cookiee_munster
I’d like to see more features/rides on the proper MGM Films and not the animated films. I’ve looked some films up in one of my Film magazines and the Well known MGM classics they could do are… Ben Hur, Gone with the wind, The great escape, Some like it hot, Get Carter, Thelma and Louise, Fiddler on the roof, Singing in the rain, Carrie, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, The good the bad and the ugly, The man in the iron mask, Rollerball and many many others!. I’d love to see a feature of Carrie like the end scene with the rubble for the house and the For sale sign and the hand coming out of the rubble that would be a cool feature to put somewhere.

*Also as someone has said they should build a completely new park for the animated Disney movies. Well I think they should just do like a street/area dedicated to just animated movies like "animation BLVD" or something like that instead of building a completely bran new park. Of course the whole street will be filled with loads of shops and buildings and features dedicated to animated Disney films. J do u agree…? And then the rest of the park would be just on the Disney films (non animated).

The studios are now called "The Disney studios" Disneys contract they had with MGM expired and was never renewed for the studio name so it now has been changed. Due to that there won't be any additional MGM movies represented other than what is in the great movie ride. This could be the reason that TGMR may be going since it is heavey on MGM themes.

 

[Chad]

Hmmm.. Few comments...

First, it is still The DISNEY MGM STUDIOS, the rumor that the name was dropped is, well, just a rumor. I do believe, however, that in order for Disney to use an MGM movie title, they have to shell out some bucks for it.

Second, Just a thought on the 'Animation Exploration'..
Why are you moving it into the Tower of Terror Area? You already have the Animation Courtyard, which features what I believe to be the most VITAL part of an Animation land..THE ACTUAL STUDIO!
If You want My Opinion, (and believe me, I've got plenty on MGM...) This is what I believe should be done..

-FIRST-
It should be Re-named Disney Studios, while still keeping the MGM titles in the park, simply because the park has expanded beyond MOVIES to now include television and music.
There should be DISTINCT LOTS (or lands, depending on what you call them)
1. Hollywood
2. New York
3. LucasFilm Lot
4. Jim Henson Productions Lot
5. Backlot
6. Animation Courtyard
7. ABC Television Lot
8. Music Plaza
Most of them are the same, but some are expanded and some are new. Either way, the should all be more distinguished from the other lands.

1. Hollywood-
By far, the largest land, and the entrance into the park. The Great Movie ride would still remain, and that wretched hat would be removed. Also, I think it would be cool if the water tower could be moved, shortened, and placed ontop of the GMR's roof, that way, it's visible from all sides of the park, and much more iconic.
-New Additions:
Beauty and The beast will be moved to the Animation courtyard, and a smaller Replica of 'Hollywood Hill' would be built, filling in all that land between Fantasmic and those shops, (A path would still be available so guests can exit fantasmic). Inside the hill, would be two attractions, a new, and imporved Superstar Limo from Cali adventure, and an interactive experience called: 'You Ought to be in pictures', a series of booths complete with costumes and telepromoters, where you will be able to record, star and watch yourself act out scenes from a few of your favorite movies.

2. New York
This land will be drastically changed. Muppet Vision will be shaved off of this area, as will Mama Melrose's and Pizza Planet. It will instead, be greatly expanded upon.
-New Additions
The Hunchback show is, it put it mildly, out. And while it is a great show, I think it would fit better in the magic kingdom, maybe making use of the barren tommorowland theater. The space that theater took up will be exapnded and a new stage made for a replica of Disney Studio Paris's 'Action Film' Stunt show, I really can't remember the name of it, mainly becaise it's french, but I've seen demos for it, and it looks amazing. Big Al' Toy Barn will be removed and a path will be put in it's place. The path will include shops, and a 9-11 memorial, depicting some of the most important film that took place in newyork, nothing huge, but somewhat of a tribute to it. The path will lead to a James Bond Attraction, which I won't detail here, because I've already posted it a few times..But basically, it's a car chase that utilizes test track technology..

3. LucasFilm Lot
-New Additions
Star Tours will be hugely improved, perhaps making use of some of the parking lot area to make a new ride. Indiana Jones will be demolished, and a new EMV Indy will be made. The Backlot resteraunt will be re-themed to include more Lucas Film memrobilia.

4. Jim Henson Productions Lot
MuppetVision will remain relatively unchanged..
-New additions
The Pizza Planet Arcade will become what it was originally meant to be, Gonzo's Pizza Palace, and What was mama Melrose's Will now become the queue for an even bigger and more spectacular attraction. The Muppets Magical Movie Ride.(working title) It would Be MGM's FIRST Water flume, and would have boats similar to Jurrasic Parks, with 5 people in 5 rows. It would basically go through scenes where the muppets are trying to re-do some of the great water movies..This would REALLY stretch some copyright limits, but hey, I think some of the studious would cooperate..Scenes from JAWS, TITANIC (with ms piggy dangling from the bars of the titanic, after accidently slipping, while kermit desperetly tries to lift her up), MOBY ________,TREASURE ISLAND, 20000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA, all leading up to the finale, which would be a complete tribute to all things muppet..After the big finale splash down, it would all be black, then whispers would be heard..
"Well, what should we do now?"
"Queue the finale!"
"Now?"
"YES NOW!"
Suddenly, a single beam of light would focus on kermit, with his banjo, in his swamp, and the song would begin...
"Why are there so many, songs about rainbows..."
Slowly the rest of the room would illuminate by a rainbow of multicolored lights, revealing a cast of over 200 muppet animatronics, from Sesame Street to the Muppet show, all singing along..Then you'd get to exit, and you'd find yourself in a 'Henson Shrine' of sorts, a one-room Museum to a Man who was ALMSOT as imaginative of Walt himself. (tear)

5. Backlot
The backlot is most likely the MOST drastically re-arranged land. First, The houses themselves will be completely re-arranged, and a new one added, a replica of Dorhty's home from Wizard of Oz, complete with a fun Dark Ride inside..Thats a TRULY timeless move that deserves more then just a scene in the GMR. Next, Disney is going to actually put some REAL SoundStages to the area between Catastrophe Canyon and The Queueline for the tour, and move the production of some of it Disney Channel Shows there, (or maybe some new ABC shows, either way, they should atleast put two shows there...) The tour will still go back through costuming and such, but will then go through SoundStage 1, then Catastrophe Canyon, Soundstage 2, then you'd exit at the AFI. As for the Old Soundstages (whic now hold stuff from Home Imporvement and Who Wants to be a Millionare...) They'll be gutted.. Who Wants to Be a Millionare is off the air, and fading from memory. Instead, the Armageddon Attraction should be placed in there..I believe it's in paris, if anyone has information on it, please tell me! From What I've seen, it a sensory show, similar to Alien Encounter.. One Man's Dream will remain intact.

6. Animation Courtyard
-New Additions The Little Mermaid will be redone to mimic the show in tokyo, with all the actors and such being suspended from the ceiling to make it appear as if they are swimming..awesome show..The Magic of Disney's Animation will Stay the Same, and Beauty and the Beast will move to the theater where bear in the big blue house is, while bear will move to the Vacant ABC theater, since they ARE television shows after all, and not animated features. Also, a new path will be built behind Catalina Eddies, Connecting RnRC and the Animation Courtyard, this will free up that space between the two ares for a new ride, featuring the 'evolution' of Mickey mouse, from his black and white days, to the current years..a fun dark ride.

7. ABC Televison Lot
For the most part stay the same, only new addition? Bear and the big blue house..even though it's not ON ABC, it's Television, NOT animation..

8. Music Plaza
Alllllll That NICE land behind RnRC and the Road will make a new land for The Music Recording industry..I'm still thinking this one through, but an Elvis Ride, and a mock of the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame would really be neat back there..

Wow, that was alot.. hope you read it all before you comment, otherwise it won't fit together..
OH and please don't post saying..'You can't do that, disney doesn't have the RIGHTS to that..." I'm well aware of what disney has the rigths to, and what they DON't have the rights to, This is like my wish list..

OH-BTW, if my plan went through, animation would be reduced down to JUST the courtyard, while the rest of the park would focus on other live-action movies, like it's supposed to..Leave the drawing to the magic kingdom..

 

[jmarc63]

Originally posted by Chad
Hmmm.. Few comments...

First, it is still The DISNEY MGM STUDIOS, the rumor that the name was dropped is, well, just a rumor. I do believe, however, that in order for Disney to use an MGM movie title, they have to shell out some bucks for it.

Thats exactly what they do now

OH-BTW, if my plan went through, animation would be reduced down to JUST the courtyard, while the rest of the park would focus on other live-action movies, like it's supposed to..Leave the drawing to the magic kingdom..

I think you have forgotten the concept of what a Studio is. It is for film production weather if be live action needing huge sounstages or animation which can use any resonably sized space for production. What do you mean leave the drawing to the Magic Kingdom. Anamation hase no corrolation with the theming of Mk that is why it is at the Studios for a reason. or are you saying that Disney should not have any animation and you were refering to the artists that draw your charature on main street In that manner your smoking something :hammer:

 

[Chad]

Ah, my misguided friend, perhaps it is indeed you who may be, as you put it, 'smoking something'. If you read careful, you would have seen that I left area for two new soundtages to be built, in addition to adding the production of t.v. shows there. Certainly I have not forgotten the main focus of MGM! It /is/ Entertainment production! What I meant by 'leave the drawing to the Magic Kingdom', is that if we add muiltiple rides based on Animated films, it will begin to resemble the Magic Kingdom, where the vast majority of attractions are based on the oh-so-lovable feature animation flicks.
Don't get me wrong, I love the animation just as much as anyone, but Animation represents such a /small/ fraction of films that are released-3 or 4 a year as opposed to 30+ live-action films..Thats all I was saying.

 

[james4023464]

great work chad, I would love to see that muppet water ride.

 

[Chad]

Yeah, I think that was one of my favorite rides I've ever thought up..I love the muppets, and I really really really really wish they would put the muppet show back on ABC..Then make the ride..

 

[Figment1986]

I agree that Disney MGM studios should be Disney Studios and have some nice focas on more live action movies, Like using the famous MGM movie serries, James bond. (I cant wate till Die another Day comes out.) I also love the idea on a Music land, with the rock N roll hall of fame mock area will be. (And a Percuaaion area with a mock Drum and Bugle Core area performing daily on a new stadium, or area like Blast did on stage, And have basic lessions on how to play these instruments, Such as all the nice lovely pit instruments i play this year. or the battary instuments i used to play a few years back) Woops, got carried away again :brick: :brick: :brick: . Now i feel better

 

[FigmentDream]

Wow, Chad we actually have alot of things in common in our re-design re-habs of the Studios. I am in favor of the name change but I woudl like to clense the park of MGM matieral(for the most part) with the name change, granted that there is some good subject matter being wasted, but I think that Disney can stand on it's own legs and may be better in the long run. That being said I would gut the GMR and replace it with the Great DISNEY Movie Ride, celebrating all of the great live action Disney movies. I've actually re-done the ride scene by scene keeping the car-jackings os to speaking and the demise of your captor but in the relm of Disney movies. Then yes like you I want to get ride of that dreadful hat. Rather what I woudl do is really make a distinction between the holyywood section and the studious section. If you notice they actualy really have tried to do this, by adding those faux guard boths at areas of the park. Anyways I would make a large arch with the name Disney Studios scorlled across the top, and then a gate with the arch creating what you woudl expect to find at the very front of a movie studio. Then the building where the chineese theater stands would be complelty re-done to look like a multitude of sound stages, studio bulidings and basiclaly anythign that would look good in a micro-skyline of a studio, then sitting slightly off center to the left, would be a slightly shortend Ear-feil tower. That way it could stay the icon and be incoperated as the center peice but not look out of place due to it's height and narowness.

I also woudl convert the Hollywood Hills area actually into a replica of Hollywood Hills however I really did not add anything into it, but would make it more a a restful gardens area with a large resaturant that is made to look like a star filled gala of the 1930's after a movie debute and a transit area to other expanded areas of the park. BTW I had a similar idea for starring in your faviorte animated scene of movies in an expanded area of Downtown Disney, focusing on mainly interacitve/creation stores.

I really like the name Lucas Film lot and find it very approitpoe for the area but I am not sure personally If I would use it cause although Lucas is a film genuis and he does have a long standing partnership with Disney if I would nesicalry devote a land in his nomanclature, it just does not seem to that obvious of a conection with Disney.

I like your idea about the Muppet spoof ride but and I see why the flume would make them all water movies, but I think that is such a great idea that it should be expanded to all of the great classic movies, and I am not complelty sure, but I think that you could do it w/o copyright problems, because I think for "satire" purposes you can replicate similar copyrighted matieral w/o permision of the owning party, I belive that is how SNL operates w/o dishing out major money to the compamnies and shows that the spoof from week to week.

I completly agree with you on the limit to animation, and I think the animation section here should focus more on the creation of the acutal animation and perhapse celebrating some of the Disney Chanel animation that would not be connected with Fantasyland or somewhere else at MK, that being said I would completly re-move the Little Mermaid, as there would be a Little Mermaid Dark Boat Ride in the Fantasyland Laggon at MK, that is if I was running things

 

[Chad]

Thanks figment dream! I'm glad we're thinking on the same page! I like the Idea of making the GMR into an All Disney ride! That'd be great! Plus we could put a really cool 'Signs' scene in there!
But..why would you tear down the Chinese Theater? With the hat out of the way, the chinese theater will look as beautiful as it once did, and the water tower could easily be placed right over it's shoulder.. Plus, a bunch of studios wouldn't look as good after walking through the entrance, which is all of those 1920's themed hollywood shops, seeing the theater at the end of the road always just seemed...right. Bah, that dumb hat.
I like Hollywood hills having rides in it..mainly cause Superstar limo is a kids ride, and kids have very little to do in MGM, when looking at my plans, you might have noticed that I tried to do alot for the kids..4 new dark rides(the mickey mouse one, elvis, Wizard of Oz, and superstar limo), plus the flume ride for some of the more adventerous kids..and the GMR...

LucasFilm? Needs to stay, a definite must. Without it, you'd loose Star Tours, and an Indy ride..Which would be some main staples of Disney Studios.

Henson would also stay, and I think the classic movie spoof would be fun, but not the water theme just made more sense with a flume, and I think the studios needs a flume..PLus, kermit's in a swamp at the end, just fit I'm gonna work a bit on this ride..Maybe we could change muppetvision, update it abit to spoof some of the classic movies..I dunno..It could use some updates...(hopes not TOO many objects are thrown at him..)

It would sorta be like this..Yes, Disney Studios would be the new park, but LucasFilm and Jim Henson Productions just have their 'lots' on the studio grounds..I think the public would have no problem with that, after all, we'd name each area after it's respective company.

So Let's see..If you re-do the GMR to the GDMR, It would eliminate MGM from there, but then I had plans for a james bond ride and a wizard of Oz ride, which are both MGM...We could either find a replacement (which would still not make the park PURE disney, cause Tower of Terror is CBS) or we can just still use those titles. I've been trying to think of another car-chase related movie that could be put in new york..It has to be famous, and one that touchstone/miramax/disney/dimensions film made..I'm drawing a blank. Any ideas? Heck, it doesn't even have to HAVE a car chase in the movie, so long as I can incorporate one into the story..come on! start naming some really really really famous disney-owned movies! Then, the only MGM ride would be the wizard of Oz, and I think we could handle that!

 

[cookiee_munster]

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Chad......... i love your ideas!!! the best one was probably the muppets. with your star wars area the only thing i would like to add would be a look into green/blue screen and how its changed digital effects. Maybe intercation with some quests where some of them can be re-created in the final battle scene from episode 2??? or just interaction with a droid or something like that.

The only thing i wouldn't agree on would be the hat on the Great movie ride... but hey everyone has their own opinions.

 

[FigmentDream]

Originally posted by Chad

But..why would you tear down the Chinese Theater?

LucasFilm? Needs to stay, a definite must.

I've been trying to think of another car-chase related movie that could be put in new york..It has to be famous, and one that touchstone/miramax/disney/dimensions film made..

Then, the only MGM ride would be the wizard of Oz, and I think we could handle that!

I was just ebing realisitc in the fact that Disney has/will lose/lost the rights to the image of the Mann's Chinnese Theater, If it could be kept I would take what I proposed as the centerpeice and shift it all to be infront of Echo lake, so you still get a grand distinction of Hollywood to the Studios.

The only things I would change in the MGM drop would be GMR, I was saying I would keep Star Tours and Indy, but not nesiciarly name the area, Lucasfilm Lot because I don't really see Lucas having a really obvious connection with Disney, I would probably just keep it as part of the Studio Lot. Personally I would then call the Muppet area, something more like Muppet Production Lot, and have a tribute to Henson, again while Muppet could be connected with Disney I don't see Henson doing so. Basically I think everything except the snipits on GMR that are non-Disney have easily become groslly associated with Disney, on that note we could still bring in other outside stuff aslong as we got it to "mesh" easily.

What if you made a Roger Rabbit themed car chase, sort of a different verison of Roger Rabbit's ToonCar spin, sort of then in the middle of New York or a new area you could put in Roger Rabbit's Hollywood. LIke the idea would be you are in the Taxi and you are either chasing or being chased by Dr. Dooms henchmen and they could actualy be shooting the "sludge" (water) at you on the ride. I think it would convert over fairly eaisly.

Yes, Wizard of Oz was a wonderful movie but I really don't feel like it would warrent some sort of a dark ride on it, rather I would almost pick 3 or 4 other great movies combined with it and make some sort of an attraction called The Making of Magical Movie Mommnents and have it be either a ride or a walk through on how innovative movie techniques were used to make some of the greatest scenes in some of the greastes movies of all time. It might be easier to pick out some of the Disney movies, Marry Poppins, and such, but I think one could add non-Disney movies here as the park really celebrates Hollywood in general, I just think the name shoudl promote Disney and the centerpeice attraction should also be pure Disney, the whole park though obviously will not be.

 

[james4023464]

if disney still has mgm rights is anyone feeling a James Bond shoot em up atraction like Buzz lightyear.

 

[Figment1986]

Originally posted by james4023464
if disney still has mgm rights is anyone feeling a James Bond shoot em up atraction like Buzz lightyear.

More like Universals MIB attraction, Where you shoot at them, and then other cars, and then they shoot back.

 

[james4023464]

Originally posted by Figment1986

More like Universals MIB attraction, Where you shoot at them, and then other cars, and then they shoot back.

ya, you can be in models of BMW Z3's and you can shoot the other car on the oposing track. And when you shoot stuff things will happen like explosions or men falling over. I still wonder why Disney Studios has never done anything with Bond I mean he's one of there trademarks. This will be a really awsome atraction I could make the whole thing when I finish my big Disneyland Virginia project thats still has a pretty long way to go.

 

[cookiee_munster]

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I think this is because Bond is so dam BIG! i mean how can you just have a car chase for bond??? he's takled many thousands of things... like skiing, planes, subs, beautiful women the list goes on!!!

Oh and if you don't know the new james bond will be... "Clive Owen" he will replace pierce after this last film he's doing.

 

[JLW11Hi]

I love the Muppet ride! I have actually pondered alot about adding a Muppet Ride that would take you through all the Muppet Movies, with each scene having one of their song numbers.

I always thought that Muppet-animatronic technology would be awesome. Basically, have one of the expert "mupetiers" move the muppet and have the movements "recorded". The best thing about muppet AAs is they dont have to be as realistic as, say, the hall of Presidents.

The ride would go through, Kermits swamp, singing "Rainbow Connection", then onto Kermit and Fozzie singing "Movin Right Along", then theyd go into each of their movies.

There are so many ideas I have had for an update to the GMR, that I will post them tomorrow when I have more time.

goodnight all! Keep the ideas comming!

 

[Chad]

Ehh..I'm not feeling the James Bond Shooting game..I mean, If you have a shooting game, then the cars have to go relitevly slow, so you can shoot stuff, and aim, etc..If I'm in a BMW< I wanna go FAST! Plus, the idea of actually shooting /people/ is something I think we should leave out of disney.

Muppets Movie Ride- I originally though that would be good..But ask most people..(ecspecially this newer generation) Most have not seen, nor heard of the earlier muppet movies, Thats WHy I thought a Muppet spoof of water-themed movies would be good, simply because, hey, It'd be fun, and you get to tie it in at the end with the muppet movies.

And The HAT wouldn't go on the Roof of the GMR, the WATER TOWER would, the hat would be in a scrap pile, filthy thing.

Err..FigmentDream, it seems like the real argument comes down to whether or not to keep MGM, I see no real problem with it, though I'd still like to see GMR converted to all disney attractions, with Wizard of Oz (which DOES deserve its own dark ride! Think of how fun it would be! SPinning in the twister!) and 007 being the only rides representing MGM, and it would allow us to keep the theater..which I love..

I also don't see what the big problem is with naming it the 'LucasFilm Lot', I didn't think it was a big deal, I just figured that since there was so much lucas stuff in one area, that it should be called the lucasfilm area..


Oh, BTW, The writer of the Original James Bond stuff has put a copyright block on it being used in rides and attractions until a certain date...what that date is, I can't think of. Sorry