Meddling Granparents

sbkline

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
My son will be 5 in May and he is still in that stage of carrying around his favorite plush characters, which in this case are two Mickeys that we got for him last April on his first trip to WDW. One of them is a funky multicolored thing which I don't know WHY he picked out and the other is a Safari Mickey from Animal Kingdom. Anyway, he carries those two Mickeys with him almost everywhere. For the past few months, we have been going to church on Wednesday nights at my wife's home church, sitting in the same pew with her parents.

Well a couple Wednesdays ago, out of the blue, our son told my wife that Grandma said he can't take his Mickeys to church with him anymore because he is too old. :mad: I don't think he is too old, but regardless of whether he is or isn't, my wife and I didn't appreciate her mother going behind our back (as we perceived it) and telling him something that is OUR decision to make, not hers. We felt she totally overstepped her bounds, and we made sure to tell our son that it's perfectly fine if he takes his Mickeys to church, as that is our decision to make and not Grandma's. Much to my dismay, we got to church that night to find that his Mickeys weren't with him. I asked him why and he said he forgot, but I had my suspicions that it was because he was obeying Grandma. I asked him about it to be sure, but he swore that he simply forgot. Either way, it bugged me to death that he didn't bring them, because I just KNEW that my mother in law would think that it was because of what she said and I didn't want her to have that satisfaction. So I swore that the following Wednesday (a few days ago) those Mickeys were coming to church come Hell or High Water, even if I had to play with them myself. :lol:

I had been assuring our son all week that he doesn't need to listen to Grandma on things like that, as WE are in charge of him when we go to church, not her, and that it is fine if he wants to bring his Mickeys. So he brought them, but I could feel my blood pressure rising when he tried to go sit next to her and she motioned for him to put his Mickeys back over at the end of the pew. So I just had him come back over to me where he could hold his Mickeys if he wanted. Then a bit later, around the time that they have the kids come up to get a cup to walk around and collect coins from the congregation, I saw her whispering something in his ear. Having a pretty good idea what she was saying to him, I made sure to reassure him that it was perfectly fine if he took his Mickeys up with him, as he was acting pretty hesitant about it. After church, I asked him what Grandma said, and he didn't want to tell me at first, but when I pressed him on it, he admitted that Grandma was telling him not to bring his Mickeys up with him to the "Childrens' March" as they call it. I again made sure to tell him that although he must obey Grandma at her house when she is watching him, she doesn't have the right to tell him what she was telling him and he doesn't have to listen to her in this case, as we are in charge of that and not her.

I've been stewing on it for the past week and a half since she initially told him that, waiting for the best time to say something about it. When I dropped the kids off at her house this morning to go to work, I gently brought up the subject and politely (at least I was trying to be polite, I hope I came across as such LOL) told her that I don't want her telling him that and that my wife and I have told him that it is perfectly okay if he brings his Mickeys to church. Her reply was "but none of the other kids do that", as if that makes any difference to me. I simply said, that's fine, but Michael can if he wants.

It just burns me to have her overstepping her bounds like that, when these are decisions for my wife and I to make about our kids. To be honest, I guess it burns me even more because these are souveniers from our Disney trip last year, which was his first ever trip, and it is very special to me to see him carrying those things around everywhere as a reminder of the special time we had. The way I see it is, he'll grow up fast enough as it is without us rushing him along and I want to enjoy every moment I can of that cute, innocent little boy stage and it angers me to see his grandma or anyone else, trying to take that away from us.

Sorry, I have to vent about it somewhere and I can't do it on facebook since there are too many people from that church on my facebook friends. So this is a good, safe place to vent about it without it being all over that church. LOL

Anyone else have trouble with grandparents overstepping their bounds like that, and what do you do about it?
 

rsoxguy

Well-Known Member
I have never had a problem with a meddling grandparent, as I have always given the clear impression that I do not accept such behavior, but I believe that your course of actions was proper. You have the right to set the standards for your child, regardless of anyone's opinion. Communication is always key to proper resolution, and you did so with courtesy and honesty. Anger without malice (righteous indignation, so to speak) has led you to express your views clearly, and for what it's worth, I agree with your actions. I hope that things go well for your family in the future.
 

Monty

Brilliant...and Canadian
In the Parks
No
The only thing I think you may have done wrong is not confront her about it immediately. By talking to him rather than her, you were putting unfair pressure on him to pick between people he loves. Making him "choose sides" if you will.

I had a instance with my mother telling my [now ex-] wife that she shouldn't "pet him like a dog" in front of Morgan. Both my ex and myself have always been very "touchy-feely" with Morgan, rubbing the back of his neck or stroking his hair just letting him know we're there. I made a point of immediately intervening to explain that we had made choices about how we were going to raise our son and if she contradicted those choices in front of Morgan again we would simply stop bringing him to visit. While my mother was absolutely aghast that I thought I knew how to raise children better than she could, she never crossed that line again for her remaining years.
 

sbkline

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Original Poster
The only thing I think you may have done wrong is not confront her about it immediately. By talking to him rather than her, you were putting unfair pressure on him to pick between people he loves. Making him "choose sides" if you will.

I had a instance with my mother telling my [now ex-] wife that she shouldn't "pet him like a dog" in front of Morgan. Both my ex and myself have always been very "touchy-feely" with Morgan, rubbing the back of his neck or stroking his hair just letting him know we're there. I made a point of immediately intervening to explain that we had made choices about how we were going to raise our son and if she contradicted those choices in front of Morgan again we would simply stop bringing him to visit. While my mother was absolutely aghast that I thought I knew how to raise children better than she could, she never crossed that line again for her remaining years.

Ya, I wondered if I should directly address it with him, or if I should just talk to Grandma behind the scenes because of what you said. But I ended up choosing to do it the way I did because, although I want him to know to respect Grandma and to do what she says within her realm of jurisdiction, I wanted it to be perfectly clear to him who the final say is and what Grandma's proper realm of jurisdiction is. Did I make the right choice? Maybe, maybe not. I know with the mother and father, it's not a good idea to contradict each other in front of the child (not saying that we're perfect there either) so that the child knows not to play one against the other, but it's not quite the same when dealing with a Grandparent, who's authority is secondary to, rather than equal to, a parent.

Either way, whether I dealt with it the best possible way or not, hopefully that's the end of it and my MIL will know her place in the future.
 

becanya

New Member
Grandparents or not, I simply don't understand people needing to insert their opinions all the time, then acting like I'M the jerk when I don't accept their advice! I had someone post the other day on my facebook the other day, "you know, there is more to life than Disney." It seriously irritated me. Of course there is more to life than Disney! But that's why I need Disney...it helps me cope with all that other stuff. Sometimes, people should just mind their own business.
 

Monty

Brilliant...and Canadian
In the Parks
No
Ya, I wondered if I should directly address it with him, or if I should just talk to Grandma behind the scenes because of what you said. But I ended up choosing to do it the way I did because, although I want him to know to respect Grandma and to do what she says within her realm of jurisdiction, I wanted it to be perfectly clear to him who the final say is and what Grandma's proper realm of jurisdiction is. Did I make the right choice? Maybe, maybe not. I know with the mother and father, it's not a good idea to contradict each other in front of the child (not saying that we're perfect there either) so that the child knows not to play one against the other, but it's not quite the same when dealing with a Grandparent, who's authority is secondary to, rather than equal to, a parent.

Either way, whether I dealt with it the best possible way or not, hopefully that's the end of it and my MIL will know her place in the future.

Sorry, didn't mean to imply that you shouldn't have discussed it with your son, just that you should have raised it with her immediately. She seems to have continued trying to convince him until you did confront her. :shrug:

I was thinking more that by only raising it with him initially, he ended up having to deal with how to respond to her...
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
It sounds to me that she is more worried about what others may think than about the child's happiness.
 

sbkline

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Original Poster
Sorry, didn't mean to imply that you shouldn't have discussed it with your son, just that you should have raised it with her immediately. She seems to have continued trying to convince him until you did confront her. :shrug:

I was thinking more that by only raising it with him initially, he ended up having to deal with how to respond to her...

Ya, you're probably right on that. I should have said something to her that night after church, or called her on the phone or something. But unfortunately, I'm too easy going sometimes and it's hard for me to work up the resolve to confront someone on something. Besides, since it's my wife's mother, I kind of hoped I could pass the buck off on her and have her say something next time she talked to her mom, but unfortunately, my wife has the same problem I have. :ROFLOL:
 

sbkline

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Original Poster
It sounds to me that she is more worried about what others may think than about the child's happiness.

That's what we think, too. The first few times we came, she acted like she really didn't like it that we would stay for a while and visit after church. My wife really thought that it was because her Mom was embarrased over what she thought I might be talking about, seeing as how I hold to some different doctrinal views than what they do at that church (they are Baptists and I am Methodist). And my wife thought that her Mom was afraid that I was going to be discussing things that would embarras her in front of her fellow church people, as in people wondering what kind of guy she let her daughter marry, I guess. :lol:
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Perhaps if you got one of your MIL's friends to agree with YOU, then her stance on Mickey may change. Just a thought. :shrug:
 

kstella

Member
My daughter carried stuffed animals around with her until see was 12. There is nothing wrong with it. Children need to feel secure and if carrying around his Mickeys makes him feel that way then so be it. He will give it up when he is good and ready. Forcing him to do so before he is ready will not help him. I do agree that the grandmother seems more concerned with appearance than anything else. An adult discussion might be in order.

I wonder if such a big deal would have been made if the child in question were a girl instread of a boy....
 

sbkline

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Original Poster
My daughter carried stuffed animals around with her until see was 12. There is nothing wrong with it. Children need to feel secure and if carrying around his Mickeys makes him feel that way then so be it. He will give it up when he is good and ready. Forcing him to do so before he is ready will not help him. I do agree that the grandmother seems more concerned with appearance than anything else. An adult discussion might be in order.

I wonder if such a big deal would have been made if the child in question were a girl instread of a boy....


My wife had a blanket that she carried with her everywhere when she was little and her Mom decided one day that she was too old to be doing that anymore (I cant' remember how old she said she was at the time), and her Mom took it away and my wife never saw the blanket again. Seems pretty mean to me, but at least in that case, it was her own child and her right to make that decision.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want to cast my inlaws in an overly negative light, because overall, they are very good people. They have bent over backwards to help us out, as well as my wife's sister and her husband. They watched our son twice when we went to WDW before he got old enough to take with us, they watched our daughter on last year's trip and they plan to watch her for us again this year. They have done all kinds of other things to help us out and we are very appreciative of that and in many ways I think very highly of them. But as with everyone, they have their quirks, especially my mother in law, and this is one of those quirks that directly stepped on my toes and could not be tolerated.
 

Monty

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In the Parks
No
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unkadug

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For future reference:

If you post twice or want to remove a post for whatever reason, just "Edit" and click on "go advanced" and you'll be given the option to delete the post.

You're not alone, a lot of people seem unaware of this feature. :animwink:

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sbkline

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Original Poster
For future reference:

If you post twice or want to remove a post for whatever reason, just "Edit" and click on "go advanced" and you'll be given the option to delete the post.

You're not alone, a lot of people seem unaware of this feature. :animwink:

Ah, thanks! I knew there was a way to delete posts, but I never figured out how. The only way I ever knew was just to delete everything and leave at least 3 characters. I'll definitely remember that in the future!
 

Monty

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In the Parks
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Well, there you go... I didn't know that.

I was only not a Premium member for less than a month. :shrug:

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