Matterhorn and Pinocchio getting refurbished starting July 30th, 2018

[Curious Constance]

Why do the APs love Jack Skellington so much?

Sure, the movie was pretty fun, and he's a neat little character, but why the obsession?

 

[WEDwaydatamover]

Why is it that DL gets a seemingly constant attraction refurbishment schedule and MK seems to get refurbs on restaurants, gift shops and shallow Club 33's?

We have attractions that have been neglected for 15-20 years and a monorail system that's so done for.

I know TDA has it's problems but they are better than what we have in Florida.

Ugh...

 

[shortstop]

Why is it that DL gets a seemingly constant attraction refurbishment schedule and MK seems to get refurbs on restaurants, gift shops and shallow Club 33's?

We have attractions that have been neglected for 15-20 years and a monorail system that's so done for.

I know TDA has it's problems but they are better than what we have in Florida.

Ugh...

It goes both ways. WDW’s Mansion and Splash are in much better shape, for example.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

It's not just not enjoyable. It's offensively bad. It's Imagineering saying "Hey- here's one of the most iconic rides ever done. One of the most influential rides built. But guess what... it needs some more IP!"

It's the epitome of what current Disney fans hate about the way Disney operates now.

And I can only imagine the kind of wear the mansion receives having figures changed out that frequently. It can't be good for it long term.

Oh idk I disagree entirely. It's not offensively bad, it's a fantastic overlay. Almost feels like an entirely new attraction. It's subjective but trust me when I say i'm usually no fan of attraction overlays or reskins. This is the only one I love.

 

[WEDwaydatamover]

I will agree with you on that one shortstop.

I didn't say everything was better. I still think WDW's Haunted Mansion is better even with the horrible rehab. I like MK Splash Mountain better as well. Not as many characters but better thought out. I also think Space Mt and the inside is Small World is better, certainly not the queue or outside. Also Fantasyland 1983 outhinks Unimagineerings MK revamp.

 

[Rich T]

In short, HMH is not going anywhere.

...Until it does. Unfortunately, I've got a feeling it'll just be to make room for *another* flavor-of-the-day overlay. A Frozen Haunted Mansion. Oh, you all laugh now, but....

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

HMH is wildly popular and any attempt to retire it will be met with widespread anger and bemoaning. Not that such things matter (see TOT). There isn't really a good place to make a permanent NBC ride in DLR and the property is a lucrative one when it comes to merch. Retiring HMH would put a serious damper on the NBC merch gravy train with no way to replace that synergy.

In short, HMH is not going anywhere.

It should go somewhere in DCA.

 

[Model3 McQueen]

...Until it does. Unfortunately, I've got a feeling it'll just be to make room for *another* flavor-of-the-day overlay. A Frozen Haunted Mansion. Oh, you all laugh now, but....

Or Baby Groot's House of Fun just in time for GotG3 amirite (assuming that movie even happens) and it'll overstay its welcome for about 2+ years. They'll call it "Season of the Groot"

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

It should go somewhere in DCA.

Where?

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Why do the APs love Jack Skellington so much?

Sure, the movie was pretty fun, and he's a neat little character, but why the obsession?

Good merch and a weird Tim Burton fetish?

 

[Curious Constance]

Where?

Why, anywhere you want! KABOOM!

 

[Rich T]

Where?

Burton Flats.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Where?

Monsters Inc.

 

[Curious Constance]

Good merch and a weird Tim Burton fetish?

Good merch? Ehhhhhhhhhhh.

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

Good merch? Ehhhhhhhhhhh.

I'm not saying I like any of it...but compared to what they normally dish out for HM...Jack Skellington is a merch icon.

Clearly you've never set foot in a Hot Topic

 

[TROR]

Having the entire rooms flooded makes "it's a small world" 100x better than Disneyland's as far as ride experience goes

 

[Hatbox Ghostbuster]

It's a fine overlay as far as overlays go, but its up FAR earlier than it should be. #1 complaint.
It is after all, a CHRISTMAS movie.

 

[Disney Irish]

Why do the APs love Jack Skellington so much?

Sure, the movie was pretty fun, and he's a neat little character, but why the obsession?

Nostalgia and its the Disney version of goth.

 

[Kram Sacul]

This question could probably be its own thread, but this seems as good a place as any. Pinocchio is a walk-on every time I've been to Disneyland in the last ten years. What do you think the problem is, and how would you fix it? Bonus Question...if not a radical ground up overhaul, if the team approached it like they did "plussing" Alice in Wonderland (which I loved, just a joy to see that ride come to new life...it's the Susie Blue Coupe of Fantasyland attractions), how would you tackle that same approach with Pinocchio?

The problem isn’t Pinocchio. The film and the ride are both very well done. It’s the people that are wrong for not going on it.

If it was going to be plussed or enhanced I would like to see some lighting improvements with carefully done projections and more complex movements on the figures. The Tokyo Disneyland version has some of those.

 

[shortstop]

Having the entire rooms flooded makes "it's a small world" 100x better than Disneyland's as far as ride experience goes

It’s an advantage, but Disneyland’s still has better show scenes if memory serves.