Marvel Studios' Avengers: Doomsday

MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

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concluding...

Tom Hiddleston (Loki)
Patrick Stewart (Charles Xavier / Professor X)
Ian McKellan (Magneto)
Alan (Kurt Wagner / Nightcrawler
Rebecca Moijn (Mystique)
James Marsden (Scott Summers / Cyclops)
Channing Tatum (Remy LeBeau / Gambit)
Pedro Pascal (Reed Richards / Mister Fantastic)

And last one...
Robert Downey Jr. (Iron Man / Doom) (RDJ showed up to sit in that last seat).
 
Wendy Pleakley

Wendy Pleakley

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Didn't they once say they were going back to a smaller team like the first Avengers?

This seems simultaneously amazing but also a little desperate.

I feel the success of Deadpool Vs. Wolverine really cemented the approach of just throwing every bit of name recognition and nostalgia into a movie and people will eat it up.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Wendy Pleakley said:
Didn't they once say they were going back to a smaller team like the first Avengers?

This seems simultaneously amazing but also a little desperate.

I feel the success of Deadpool Vs. Wolverine really cemented the approach of just throwing every bit of name recognition and nostalgia into a movie and people will eat it up.
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Doomday and Secret Wars was always going to be a huge ensemble cast. So don't see how they can go back to a 5 person team when the story is meant to be universe impactful if going based off the comics.
 
Wendy Pleakley

Wendy Pleakley

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Disney Irish said:
Doomday and Secret Wars was always going to be a huge ensemble cast. So don't see how they can go back to a 5 person team when the story is meant to be universe impactful if going based off the comics.
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The reason it gives a bit of desperation vibes is they're not willing to wait. I assumed they'd develop previous Fox properties like X-Men and Fantastic Four from the ground up and build to another big event.

Endgame was a true culmination of story and characters developed well over time. The fact that a comic book movie could open with 45 minutes or so of mostly drama and character, and not bore audiences, is a testament to that.

I feel here they want another big event but instead of earning it they're dragging the X-Men out of mothballs as a bit of a cheat so they can do it right now.

Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with using the existing franchise, and I'm sure it will be fun. I do wonder why they're so dependent on the old pre-MCU stuff all of a sudden.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Wendy Pleakley said:
The reason it gives a bit of desperation vibes is they're not willing to wait. I assumed they'd develop previous Fox properties like X-Men and Fantastic Four from the ground up and build to another big event.

Endgame was a true culmination of story and characters developed well over time. The fact that a comic book movie could open with 45 minutes or so of mostly drama and character, and not bore audiences, is a testament to that.

I feel here they want another big event but instead of earning it they're dragging the X-Men out of mothballs as a bit of a cheat so they can do it right now.

Don't get me wrong, I'm fine with using the existing franchise, and I'm sure it will be fun. I do wonder why they're so dependent on the old pre-MCU stuff all of a sudden.
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By the time this movie comes out, we'll have been 7 years since the last Avengers movie of any kind. That is longer than any other point in the MCU in the last 18 years when this is released, average was 3 years previously. So how long are you expecting them to go before we have another Avengers event level movie? How long do they need to build it up in order to get to that level? 10 years?

I understand it may not seem like it, but they were building toward something previously. They've had to pivot because of issues beyond their control and are now trying to get back on track. So it may seem rushed in terms of story arc, but Mutants (X-Men) was always the goal of the end of this Saga. Its why they've teased it previously with the Ms Marvel show and the Marvels movie. We're 2 years away from the end of this Saga and barely scratched the surface of that. And if you know the comics and the story they appear to be telling, this question is sorted of answered on why it seems they are dependent on the pre-MCU stuff. In my opinion Battle World is likely coming and an eventual reset of the MCU, with the eventual Avengers vs Mutants storyline taking over.
 

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