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Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Dr. Hans Reinhardt said:
I guess we won't be seeing a Deadpool attraction in Marvel Land or in any Disney park in the forseeable future. :D

"It [Deadpool] clearly has been and will be Marvel branded. But we think there might be an opportunity for a Marvel-R brand for something like Deadpool." - Bob Iger

https://geektyrant.com/news/disney-...r-rated-and-they-are-open-to-a-marvel-r-brand
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No not an attraction, but don't be surprised to see Deadpool continue to get solo movies or even make an appearance in the MCU in someway.
 
TROR

TROR

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Dr. Hans Reinhardt said:
I guess we won't be seeing a Deadpool attraction in Marvel Land or in any Disney park in the forseeable future. :D

"It [Deadpool] clearly has been and will be Marvel branded. But we think there might be an opportunity for a Marvel-R brand for something like Deadpool." - Bob Iger

https://geektyrant.com/news/disney-...r-rated-and-they-are-open-to-a-marvel-r-brand
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I've been hearing this all day, and honestly, I have no idea what he means by this. Is he saying Deadpool would just be separate from regular Marvel? Would Ryan Reynolds continue to be Deadpool? Honestly, if they wanted to keep Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool and just put him in the MCU, I'd be fine with that but they can't have him be R-rated if that's the case. It would completely clash. I know some MCU movies, specifically the Guardians of the Galaxy ones, are incredibly crude and crass as is, but it completely ruins the family-friendly image of Disney and those aspects of the movies feel really out of place with the rest of the MCU. I don't even understand WHY Deadpool needs to be R-rated. So he can say the f-word 100 times? Who cares? That's not comedy. All Deadpool needs to do is be a wisecracker psycho which does not require an R-rating.
 
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TROR said:
I've been hearing this all day, and honestly, I have no idea what he means by this.
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It means that Deadpool and certain Marvel comics will keep their mature themes. No need to read anything more into it.

You really must accept that the Disney organization you once admired is long gone now. This is not Walt's company. We're looking at a media organization called Disney that's more akin to Google or Comcast than a company made up of a handful of animators and Imagineers tinkering around Burbank dreaming up the next big Disney movie or E ticket ride.

To put this in perspective Fox Entertainment Group has about 12,500 employees. While they may not all survive the merger, Disney has 195,000 employees, meaning that the new Disney will employ somewhere in the neighborhood of 200,000 workers. :eek:
 
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mickEblu

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DisneyIrishGuy said:
What I can see happening is Disney doing a deal with Comcast in a content swap. For example the rights to Simpsons or something else for the rights to Marvel in Orlando. They did a similar deal with NBC Universal (prior to Comcast ownership) to get Oswald back, except it was Al Michaels as the content in that deal.
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How about Deadpool and Simpsons for Universal ripping up that old “No Marvel in any theme parks East of the Mississippi” contract?
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Dr. Hans Reinhardt said:
It means that Deadpool and certain Marvel comics will keep their mature themes. No need to read anything more into it.

You really must accept that the Disney organization you once admired is long gone now. This is not Walt's company. We're looking at a media organization called Disney that's more akin to Google or Comcast than a company made up of a handful of animators and Imagineers tinkering around Burbank dreaming up the next big Disney movie or E ticket ride.

To put this in perspective Fox Entertainment Group has about 12,500 employees. While they may not all survive the merger, Disney has 195,000 employees, meaning that the new Disney will employ somewhere in the neighborhood of 200,000 workers. :eek:
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Let's be honest, this hasn't been Walt's company for decades. Times have to change and so does the company. That idea of a handful of animators and imagineers in Burbank hasn't existed since the 70s (and really since the late 60s after Walt died). Its a different landscape in Hollywood, and in order to be competitive Disney has to continue to change itself. Its the very reason why Murdoch sold Fox.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Dr. Hans Reinhardt said:
No arguing that point from me. The rest of the choir you're preaching to, that is the Disney Park fanbase at large, hasn't caught up apparently.
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That's the thing though, this Fox move isn't likely to affect the P&R division all that much. Sure maybe we'll see some Fox properties make their way into the Parks. But this isn't going to be some wholesale take over of P&R by Fox IP.

Not all moves Iger or his successors do is about P&R. In fact, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think P&R was mentioned at all during the Fox announcement. Whereas the other acquisitions (Pixar, Marvel, Lucas) there was a mention of P&R.
 
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Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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mickEblu said:
Yea yah I know the parks are peons compared to the movies.
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No, what I mean is why go through all the trouble of getting a Marvel character back just to get rid of it again. So no I don't believe Disney will use Deadpool as some bargaining chip just to get Marvel theme park rights back. Some other Fox property, sure, but not a Marvel character.
 
mickEblu

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DisneyIrishGuy said:
No, what I mean is why go through all the trouble of getting a Marvel character back just to get rid of it again. So no I don't believe Disney will use Deadpool as some bargaining chip just to get Marvel theme park rights back. Some other Fox property, sure, but not a Marvel character.
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I gotcha. My proposed trade was a joke.
 
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DisneyIrishGuy said:
That's the thing though, this Fox move isn't likely to affect the P&R division all that much. Sure maybe we'll see some Fox properties make their way into the Parks. But this isn't going to be some wholesale take over of P&R by Fox IP.

Not all moves Iger or his successors do is about P&R. In fact, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think P&R was mentioned at all during the announcement. Whereas the other acquisitions there was a mention of P&R.
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My initial response was to another poster regarding the Disney/Fox merger and Marvel IP. I never explicitly said that this deal will have a direct impact on P&R other than it being unlikely that Deadpool would be considered for a Disney/Marvel theme park ride in one of the parks.

Consider this: in 2017 P&R's revenue totalled $18.42 billion, and the division is valued at $29 billion.The Disney/Fox deal is valued at over $52 billion! Assuming the deal passes government regulators today's huge announcement will shape the global entertainment landscape for decades far, far beyond P&R or even the WDCo. At least two media outlets have referred to the merger as a "media and entertainment earthquake".
 
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Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Dr. Hans Reinhardt said:
My initial response was to another poster regarding the Disney/Fox merger and Marvel IP. I never explicitly said that this deal will have a direct impact on P&R other than it being unlikely that Deadpool would be considered for a Disney/Marvel theme park ride in one of the parks.
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My statement was to the Parks fans as a whole, not to you personally. I made the statement since you mentioned that Parks fans, a large majority, haven't caught up that TWDC isn't Walt's company and hasn't been for decades. And I expanded on that by saying today's deal isn't likely to affect P&R in much of a large way since not all moves that TWDC does affects P&R.

Dr. Hans Reinhardt said:
Consider this: in 2017 P&R's revenue totalled $18.42 billion and the Disney/Fox deal is valued at over $52 billion. Assuming the deal passes government regulators, today's announcement will shape the global entertainment landscape far, far beyond P&R or even the WDCo. At least two media outlets have referred to the merger as a "media and entertainment earthquake".
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Fox was going to be sold no matter what, Murdoch wanted it to happen. So it was just a matter of finding the right buyer with large enough pockets.

Comcast was going to have a larger regulatory hurdle (being a Cable provider), so that wasn't going to happen. AT&T is still stuck with trying to pass regulatory hurdles with Time/Warner, so that is a no go. We could see Google (but really they aren't interested) or another Silicon Valley player still make a bid, but that is unlikely at this point.

Disney just made the most sense, given Marvel, Star Wars, Avatar, etc.
 
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DisneyIrishGuy said:
I made the statement since you mentioned that Parks fans, a large majority, haven't caught up that TWDC isn't Walt's company and hasn't been for decades.
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I guess I was being vague. I was actually speaking about a particular poster here, while trying to keep it general. But as the saying goes if the shoe fits wear it.
 
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DisneyIrishGuy said:
That shoe fits too many in the fandom I'm afraid. ;):p:D

I'm scared to even look at the Micechat forums.... I'm sure some over there literally died with rage.
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I'm pretty much beyond that point now. I barely even care anymore beyond chatting with the folks here TBH. :(
 
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DisneyIrishGuy said:
Come on, its not that bad. Change is part of Hollywood, and even Silicon Valley where you live.
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Oh it's that bad.

Look I'm fine with change. I'm also fine with adjusting to change, and if adjusting means curbing my Disney appetite so be it.
 

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