Marvel at WDW

asianway

Well-Known Member
I get that....but if Disney offered some IP's (plus a boatload of cash) in return for Marvel...say Predator, Kingsman, Planet of the Apes.....those are things that could easily fit in a Uni environment that would make an imprint in their parks. I think this thread spiraled a bit. All I'm trying to say is that eventually Disney is going to get Marvel from Uni. Can't say when...but I'll stick with - within the next 10 years (probably sooner).

Otherwise I'll owe @marni1971 a drink at Bunny's.
This reads like some garbage trade youd hear on sports radio as the trade deadline approaches
 

Wendy Pleakley

Well-Known Member
The focus here is on Marvel, but will something like The Simpsons theme park rights come into play when the Disney/Fox merger is complete?

Presumably the licensing fee for the Simpsons is much higher than for Marvel, meaning Disney might be willing to waive those fees in exchange for Marvel.
 

imperius

Well-Known Member
The focus here is on Marvel, but will something like The Simpsons theme park rights come into play when the Disney/Fox merger is complete?

Presumably the licensing fee for the Simpsons is much higher than for Marvel, meaning Disney might be willing to waive those fees in exchange for Marvel.
The contract was said to be around 20 years and again, Simpson’s can’t compare to Marvel. Especially in 10 years when contract is over.
 

TechRavingMad

New Member
No and no.

Black Panther is off limits as a founding member of the Avengers.

Shuri, Wakanda, and all the characters therein are part of Black Panther's family.

People keep forgetting that even if a 'family member' hasn't been used, it's off limits if it's part of a family of an in-use character.
BlackPanther wasn't a founding member of the Avengers.
He didn't join until the 60's (one of the round of first recruits) http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Avengers_members
 

Wendy Pleakley

Well-Known Member
The Simpsons have been consistently popular for 20+ years. Even if the show ends tomorrow, there will be nostalgia for them for many years to come.

Not that it matters, Universal tends to replace aging attractions much more frequently than Disney. If Disney operated Universal Studios, I suspect we'd still be riding Back to the Future.
 

TechRavingMad

New Member
Disney has plenty of lawyers and money that if they wanted a way out they would find it. I don't think they are looking for an end run though.

My hope is that with the recently approved acquisition of Fox that they can effectively give Universal other licenses that will be just as valuable to Universal as Marvel currently is to them (since they can't really expand their usage either).

Properties like Diary of a Wimpy Kid, Family Guy, Futurama, Goosebumps, Ice Age, Planet of the Apes, Simpsons, and X-Files all make more sense being owned and used by Universal/Comcast than Marvel does. I'm sure there are others.

So my dream resolution would be Disney agrees to sell some or all of those properties to Universal, at a very favorable price, in return for voiding that current Marvel contract. It makes sense from a business perspective too. Those properties would probably never get used by Disney but Universal could rake money in on them. And they fit way better in a universal park then anything Disney would ever do.

Then of course the completion of the dream would be a 5th gate, Marvel Universe, an entire park dedicated to Marvel!
 

TechRavingMad

New Member
So does Comcast. There is no "way out".
Are you a commercial contract lawyer with a few billion dollars to spend?

If not, that's you're uninformed opinion.

Granted, my initial statement is also my opinion, but I do deal with corporate legal agreements every day as part of my employment, and they are never as air-tight as people would like them to be. I've yet to find one that money and lawyers can't find a way around. And in my reading of the contract I see several ways Disney could leverage it in their favor, but it wouldn't be cheap and it would require arbitration/lawsuits. Which is why I said if Disney wanted to they could find a way to end run it. There's always outs or manipulations that can happen when it comes to legal agreements. It's just a matter of if they want to pay for them. A threat of legal action, and the cost that it entails is often enough motivation for a company to take a deal.

Comcast's war chest is 60% of Disney's. They couldn't keep up if it came to it.
 

imperius

Well-Known Member
Ahh the old if they wanted to they could argument. So people think Disney hasn’t wanted Marvel ever since they bought them? They can’t just get out. It’s not how any of this works. And people really underestimate Comcast’s worth.
 

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