Mario and Nintendo chat from the original thread at 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

[UNCgolf]

The Brand Mario makes billions more a year than Rockstar could ever dream of. The kind that makes Mario, and the lands and characters that surround the zeitgeist more than worthy of a theme park land.

To the second bolded point. EVERYTHING changes. Anything over 20 years popular in art. You will find that is about the length of time(20 to 30 years) in most theme park lands and attractions last with few exceptions.

I'm almost positive GTA Online makes more money for Rockstar yearly (maybe not now that it's 10+ years old) than Mario makes for Nintendo. Mario does not make billions of dollars a year.

And Grand Theft Auto 6 is on its way.

 

[UNCgolf]

And seeing as how Mickey has appearances in multiple theme parks attractions, all over them for 60 years, I think it is fair that Mario translates well to getting a few theme park attractions.

Who said Mario shouldn't get theme park attractions?

No one has said building a Mario land was a bad idea -- it was a good idea! I just wish they'd built better attractions. But hopefully the Donkey Kong coaster will be much better than the Mario Kart fiasco.

 

[celluloid]

I'm almost positive GTA Online makes more money for Rockstar yearly (maybe not now that it's 10+ years old) than Mario makes for Nintendo. Mario does not make billions of dollars a year.

So you are admitting what is already known. Rockstar's main income has fizzled a bit within ten years, and Mario, like Mickey, has gained popularity and lasted in it's popularity for 40 years, the same way Mickey has lasted his century and steadily increased into popular culture globally.

I don't think Mario Kart is a fiasco. Families have enjoyed it as a part of an entire experience. Don't make it sound like a Fast and the Furious or Superstar Limo situation.


That is the thing. Mario is for families the same way Mickey is. Recognizable and mostly accessible, like the land.

 

[UNCgolf]

So you are admitting what is already known. Rockstar's main income has fizzled a bit within ten years, and Mario, like Mickey, has gained popularity and lasted for 40 years, and steadily increased into popular culture globally.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

It feels like brand loyalty is blinding people here and causing some defensiveness. They're reading "Mario may not be as big as you think it is" and deciding that means "nobody cares about Mario and it's doomed to fail" when no one has said anything even remotely close to that. No one is saying someone is wrong to love Mario, or that there aren't millions of people who do. There have also been suggestions that anyone who says so just doesn't play video games and so doesn't understand, which is both wrong (several people have pointed out they've played Mario going back to the 1980s) and a bad argument anyways.

I think you nailed it, Mario is one of the biggest franchises around in video games, but if you aren’t a gamer (or are just a casual gamer) you probably don’t have a huge connection to it. We know Mario but we don’t have a huge connection to him.

Similar to Marvel prior to the recent movies making them mainstream, they’ve always been wildly popular among comic book fans, and they were big enough the general public knew who many of them were, but the general public also didn’t have a huge connection to them.

 

[UNCgolf]

I think you nailed it, Mario is one of the biggest franchises around in video games, but if you aren’t a gamer (or are just a casual gamer) you probably don’t have a huge connection to it. We know Mario but we don’t have a huge connection to him.

The thing is, there are millions and millions of people who play video games who don't care about Mario either (which shouldn't be surprising; there are millions and millions of people who go see movies but don't watch MCU films).

There are millions and millions who do, too (obviously), but there are a ton of people who only own non-Nintendo consoles or a gaming PC. And even people who own Nintendo systems don't all care about Mario titles -- I know some people who have a Switch solely for Zelda, although I think that's a pretty small minority of Nintendo owners.

Video games as a whole are a massive, massive industry, but I'm not sure there's a single video game IP out there that 50+% of the gaming population plays.

 

[celluloid]

I think you nailed it, Mario is one of the biggest franchises around in video games, but if you aren’t a gamer (or are just a casual gamer) you probably don’t have a huge connection to it. We know Mario but we don’t have a huge connection to him.

Similar to Marvel prior to the recent movies making them mainstream, they’ve always been wildly popular among comic book fans, and they were big enough the general public knew who many of them were, but the general public also didn’t have a huge connection to them.

Like a Disney fan and someone who does not watch Cartoons or Disney may feel about Mickey.

 

[Alanzo]

Y'all are making me long for simpler gaming times when I could talk with my friends about what games we are all playing and I'd know what the hell they were talking about.

 

[Touchdown]

Well this spring is going to be great for me, my Metroid Prime remastered will be delivered shortly, and it’s only 3 months until Tears of the Kingdone releases. I also bought Hogwarts legacy for my switch (releases in June.)

 

[J4546]

Who said Mario shouldn't get theme park attractions?

No one has said building a Mario land was a bad idea -- it was a good idea! I just wish they'd built better attractions. But hopefully the Donkey Kong coaster will be much better than the Mario Kart fiasco.

Pretty much same

 

[Tha Realest]

I'll eat my hat if it makes a billion ww.

Make sure you pick out a tasty one!

 

[the_rich]

Make sure you pick out a tasty one!

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Yea I was wrong on this one. Movie wasn't good but that doesn't matter it was still popular.

 

[UNCgolf]

Yea I was wrong on this one. Movie wasn't good but that doesn't matter it was still popular.

I don't know why you thought it wouldn't -- making a billion, while of course impressive, isn't that big of a deal now. I think over 50 movies have surpassed $1 billion at the box office and the majority of them are from the past 7 or 8 years.

 

[the_rich]

I don't know why you thought it wouldn't -- making a billion, while of course impressive, isn't that big of a deal now. I think over 50 movies have surpassed $1 billion at the box office and the majority of them are from the past 7 or 8 years.

I didn't see the hype behind it. 1 billion is still an accomplishment. Takes 4 quad engagement to happen.

 

[UNCgolf]

I didn't see the hype behind it. 1 billion is still an accomplishment. Takes 4 quad engagement to happen.

It's an accomplishment, but I think the movie would have been a failure if it didn't hit $1 billion (or at least get very close to it). At this point that's almost the baseline for something intended as a blockbuster involving a well-known IP.