Mar 27 2012 - Mine Train structure vertical and visible over walls

[tl77]

The mine ride will have it's own areas of complexity, all the ride mechanics, loading and unloading platform show scenes with animatronics, lighting and sound, vehicle service area, etc. Also remember that the landscaping around the track is likely to be artificial like the rock work on BatB and LM. In some ways this is probably going to be built like Radiator Springs Racers at DCA, concrete foundation, steel track, and then wrapped in rockwork.

Don't get me wrong, I would be great to see this open quickly, but it's not unreasonable to think that this could take another 18 months.

ok, but I don't know if you can really compare the time it takes to build a "restaurant" with the "roller coaster" or even a simple gravity coaster with Cars land which is this massive, computer controlled, monster attraction, but there pics of the Mine Train's structural steel going up today and once that's in place the rest of it is mostly just cosmetic...

At any rate though the I imagine the Mine Train has to be done a.s.a.p because Disney can't run T.V. ads, have a grand opening... for a New Fantasyland until it's all finished, they need it done so they can start making their money back on the investment

 

[Captain Chaos]

Nice to see vertical construction for the mine car...

 

[SpectroPhoenix]

I know absolutely nothing about the construction process, but what's the chance that FLE's exterior will be completed before the interiors open? As in finish the show buildings so that we can walk around the area without walls everywhere, but not be able to enter the buildings.

 

[jjharvpro]

It's fantastic to see vertical construction! I agree with many of you that it seems it'll be done before 2 years. Sure, a lot of work left to go, but 2 years is most likely a loose date to play it safe. Just my 2 cents..

 

[Biff215]

It's great to see it going vertical. To be honest, I had really thought that LM and BatB would have opened much earlier if you had asked me two years ago. Now here we are, and they are still not done and having details added to them. SW to me would be the most difficult as it is probably being constructed similar to EE, just on a smaller scale. While I don't think we will be waiting two full years from this point, I don't think it's out of the question that this will take at least 18 months as others have suggested. Just my thoughts, and good to see progress either way!

 

[wdisney9000]

Looks awesome. Thanks for posting.

 

[coolbeans14]

I just had no Idea how huge this thing is going to be! That is a very tall wall!

 

[danlb_2000]

ok, but I don't know if you can really compare the time it takes to build a "restaurant" with the "roller coaster" or even a simple gravity coaster with Cars land which is this massive, computer controlled, monster attraction, but there pics of the Mine Train's structural steel going up today and once that's in place the rest of it is mostly just cosmetic...

At any rate though the I imagine the Mine Train has to be done a.s.a.p because Disney can't run T.V. ads, have a grand opening... for a New Fantasyland until it's all finished, they need it done so they can start making their money back on the investment

Structural steel goes up fast, it's the cosmetic, and thus artistic, parts that takes the time. I remember the dicussions on these boards when the steel went up for BaTB and everyone was amazed at how fast is was going and started speculating that it would open earlier then expected.

Disney is great at marketing they will find a way to promote Fantasyland wheter the Mine Train is open or not. With the two parts opening seperatly they could even use that as an excuse for two big marketing pushes.

 

[midwest_mice]

Structural steel goes up fast, it's the cosmetic, and thus artistic, parts that takes the time. I remember the dicussions on these boards when the steel went up for BaTB and everyone was amazed at how fast is was going and started speculating that it would open earlier then expected.

Disney is great at marketing they will find a way to promote Fantasyland wheter the Mine Train is open or not. With the two parts opening seperatly they could even use that as an excuse for two big marketing pushes.

I totally agree with this. It won't take long for the show building to go up. It's the rockwork, track laying, mechanical and electrical that will take quite a bit of time to complete. I think 2 years is what it will probably end up taking. I can remember the Mermaid building going up quick, and they are still doing exterior rockwork on that. Theming takes time and I'd rather them take the extra time to give it that WOW factor than to rush it and make it look like a rush job.

 

[jt04]

I just want to comment on the layout of this coaster real quick.

I read people say it's pretty tame and not going to be terribly exciting. I agree that the coaster will be more family oriented. But I don't think this sucker is going to be a cake walk by any means. In doing research, I've discovered that this coaster appears to have several kinds of S turns. For a free swinging ride car, that is the best thing you can have in your layout. S turns will get those cars swaying. The swinging motion is what will make the ride more intense; not the speed or height or ride elements. It's never going to be as intense as Rockin, Everest, etc. But I think it's going to be more surprising then people think because of the way it looks like the layout will lend itself to sway action.

I am hoping the mountain is to the FLE what the Tree of Life is to the Oasis. Maybe not the same type theming but something that has the ability to dazzle guests as the ToL often does. :dazzle:

I know absolutely nothing about the construction process, but what's the chance that FLE's exterior will be completed before the interiors open? As in finish the show buildings so that we can walk around the area without walls everywhere, but not be able to enter the buildings.

I think this is a possibility but there is so much work to be done on the 'forest' portions that it seems as though the FLE will open in segments as we have seen with Dumbo/Barnstormer and the train station.

 

[jumblue]

So when do we start taking bets for the appearance of Disco/B-mode dwarfs?

:lookaroun

 

[phi2134]

I am wondering if the two years that they are saying to finish the ride will be because of the slow down of construction once quests start to surround the Mine Train area to get to the BatB and LM areas. Seems like they will only be able to move material in and out during the night which cause progress to slow as well.

 

[danlb_2000]

I am wondering if the two years that they are saying to finish the ride will be because of the slow down of construction once quests start to surround the Mine Train area to get to the BatB and LM areas. Seems like they will only be able to move material in and out during the night which cause progress to slow as well.

I would imagine that work will have to slow somewhat once the rest of the area is open. As for access, it's possible that they will leave the access road behind Little Mermaid connected to the Mine Ride so there will be a dead end at Mermaid until the construction is complete.

Dan

 

[RunnerEd]

I would imagine that work will have to slow somewhat once the rest of the area is open. As for access, it's possible that they will leave the access road behind Little Mermaid connected to the Mine Ride so there will be a dead end at Mermaid until the construction is complete.

Dan

That's about the only thing that makes sense for them to do unless they shift all of the work until night time when the construction workers can go from backstage to the mine train without being seen. They could possibly get the outside mostly finished before LM and B&B open and then access via utilidoor if they the mine train will be connected that way.

 

[GrumpyFan]

So when do we start taking bets for the appearance of Disco/B-mode dwarfs?

:lookaroun

WAAAY Too Soon! :zipit:

 

[lazyboy97o]

At any rate though the I imagine the Mine Train has to be done a.s.a.p because Disney can't run T.V. ads, have a grand opening... for a New Fantasyland until it's all finished, they need it done so they can start making their money back on the investment

Unlike the project at Disney's California Adventure, the New fantasyland was not paid for with one big lump sum. The reason for the phased openings is because the different parts of the project are being paid for separately. As such, success is also measured individually. There is no need to rush getting it all open because, like the rest of the resort, it is not looked at as one.

 

[wdwmagic]

Unlike the project at Disney's California Adventure, the New fantasyland was not paid for with one big lump sum. The reason for the phased openings is because the different parts of the project are being paid for separately. As such, success is also measured individually. There is no need to rush getting it all open because, like the rest of the resort, it is not looked at as one.

It seems more to me like they are opening what they can, as soon as they can. Operations are desperate for restoring the capacity.

 

[tl77]

Structural steel goes up fast, it's the cosmetic, and thus artistic, parts that takes the time. I remember the dicussions on these boards when the steel went up for BaTB and everyone was amazed at how fast is was going and started speculating that it would open earlier then expected.

Disney is great at marketing they will find a way to promote Fantasyland wheter the Mine Train is open or not. With the two parts opening seperatly they could even use that as an excuse for two big marketing pushes.

All the steel is computer designed ahead of time, the structural steel, the track, and the rebar skin that all the cement rock work is built on, once the foundation is set the pieces are just in assembled in place. The only thing that could slow it down is the weather, that's the only unknown variable, if it rains like crazy they can't pour concrete ect... so imo the "2 years" is more like a worst case scenario type of number

and it doesn't matter how good you are at advertising you can't put ads on T.V. that say" come see the New Fantasyland... but just ignore the big unfinished mountain in the middle of everything"

 

[tl77]

Unlike the project at Disney's California Adventure, the New fantasyland was not paid for with one big lump sum. The reason for the phased openings is because the different parts of the project are being paid for separately. As such, success is also measured individually. There is no need to rush getting it all open because, like the rest of the resort, it is not looked at as one.

but to the people paying money to come see it, IT'S ALL ONE THING

 

[MotherOfBirds]

All the steel is computer designed ahead of time, the structural steel, the track, and the rebar skin that all the cement rock work is built on, once the foundation is set the pieces are just in assembled in place. The only thing that could slow it down is the weather, that's the only unknown variable, if it rains like crazy they can't pour concrete ect... so imo the "2 years" is more like a worst case scenario type of number

This is why is floors me that they've waited this long to start work on SWMT. We are heading into the very rainy season for Florida and in the summer it'll rain nearly every afternoon. Not good for work, regardless of whether you're pouring concrete or not.